(08-06-2020 03:36 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-06-2020 03:07 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Pete Thamel, right now, is Bill Paxton's character from Aliens.



Some of these sports writers feel, to me, the kid on your team when we played youth sports that would always cry anytime we are down 10 entering the 4th quarter. "THE GAME IS OVER! WE JUST LOST! LET'S GO HOME! THERE'S POINT IN PLAYING RIGHT NOW!"

There's plenty of reason to have doubt, but there is plenty of reason to have hope too - and I think that is what everyone really needs right now. We have used up all the doom and gloom that 2020 has had to offer already. Nobody in April would have thought we would have the PGA Tournament this weekend, with MLB, with NBA, with NHL, with MLS and with college and high schools around the country preparing for their seasons.

It doesn't take any talent at all to spread fear and despair today. It does skill and conviction to spread hope, optimism and positivism. I'm glad I know which camp Thamel continues to fall under.

My issue with some of you that think these college sport reporters/writers want to see doom and gloom are forgetting one thing: this can affect their financial income and job security. If an opinion doesn't reflect your thoughts then it's view negatively regardless of side you fall on in this debate as to whether or not these games should be played.

Back in April, I knew plenty of people that thought sports would return. Are some sports safer to return than others? Absolutely! The PGA, NASCAR, MLS, WNBA and NBA has shown that is can return safely, at least so far! MLB is stumbling but we'll see how that works out. But they have circumstances that are uniquely different than football.

But lets be honest, most of you don't give a damn about these athletes or their families, you only care about having a sport that you love get played come hell or high water. It doesn't take skill to spread negativity or optimism, but it does some decency to be respectful of someone's opinion whether you like it or not. And apparently it also takes some skill to wear a f'n mask too!

Regardless, being optimistic or pessimistic about college football doesn't affect whether it will or will not be played.

I respect Pete Thamel's right to voice his opinion. But I don't have to necessarily agree with it.

I do agree with you that many of us (I've been guilty of it) are selfishly concerned about how disappointed we will be if there is no college football season — failing to see the true concern: the health of the players, coaches and their families.

(08-07-2020 08:52 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-06-2020 03:36 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-06-2020 03:07 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Pete Thamel, right now, is Bill Paxton's character from Aliens.



Some of these sports writers feel, to me, the kid on your team when we played youth sports that would always cry anytime we are down 10 entering the 4th quarter. "THE GAME IS OVER! WE JUST LOST! LET'S GO HOME! THERE'S POINT IN PLAYING RIGHT NOW!"

There's plenty of reason to have doubt, but there is plenty of reason to have hope too - and I think that is what everyone really needs right now. We have used up all the doom and gloom that 2020 has had to offer already. Nobody in April would have thought we would have the PGA Tournament this weekend, with MLB, with NBA, with NHL, with MLS and with college and high schools around the country preparing for their seasons.

It doesn't take any talent at all to spread fear and despair today. It does skill and conviction to spread hope, optimism and positivism. I'm glad I know which camp Thamel continues to fall under.

My issue with some of you that think these college sport reporters/writers want to see doom and gloom are forgetting one thing: this can affect their financial income and job security. If an opinion doesn't reflect your thoughts then it's view negatively regardless of side you fall on in this debate as to whether or not these games should be played.

Back in April, I knew plenty of people that thought sports would return. Are some sports safer to return than others? Absolutely! The PGA, NASCAR, MLS, WNBA and NBA has shown that is can return safely, at least so far! MLB is stumbling but we'll see how that works out. But they have circumstances that are uniquely different than football.

But lets be honest, most of you don't give a damn about these athletes or their families, you only care about having a sport that you love get played come hell or high water. It doesn't take skill to spread negativity or optimism, but it does some decency to be respectful of someone's opinion whether you like it or not. And apparently it also takes some skill to wear a f'n mask too!

Regardless, being optimistic or pessimistic about college football doesn't affect whether it will or will not be played.

I respect Pete Thamel's right to voice his opinion. But I don't have to necessarily agree with it.

I do agree with you that many of us (I've been guilty of it) are selfishly concerned about how disappointed we will be if there is no college football season — failing to see the true concern: the health of the players, coaches and their families.

Players and families will be fine. Players are likely to party and expose themselves that way. They are low risk. Older coaches can distance and should be fine. Its the fans who could catch and massively spread the virus. Crowds of 25-50,000? Not a good idea.

(08-07-2020 08:21 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(08-06-2020 03:26 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Frankly, the fact that we have gone back to case numbers on par with April is giving every decision maker even more anxiety today compared to the spring. At least in the spring, there was some hope that there would be a quick turnaround, whether it be advances in medical treatments, a natural decline in cases due to the summer weather or some other factor. Pretty much none of that has happened in the United States and the problem clearly isn't going to get better on its own, so many decision makers feel worse off than before.

Note that the hopes were not, as in the EU, that implementing policy which acted upon the advice of the experts would yield results, since by May it was already clear that the national policy was effectively "LOL, YOLO".

Well, the EU was similar to the USA in the sense that just as the EU has limited power to control its members - thus the disparate responses to the virus among many EU countries - similarly the USA's federalism system meant that there could be no national virus policy, rather there would be 50 state policies.

(08-07-2020 10:21 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-07-2020 08:52 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-06-2020 03:36 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-06-2020 03:07 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Pete Thamel, right now, is Bill Paxton's character from Aliens.



Some of these sports writers feel, to me, the kid on your team when we played youth sports that would always cry anytime we are down 10 entering the 4th quarter. "THE GAME IS OVER! WE JUST LOST! LET'S GO HOME! THERE'S POINT IN PLAYING RIGHT NOW!"

There's plenty of reason to have doubt, but there is plenty of reason to have hope too - and I think that is what everyone really needs right now. We have used up all the doom and gloom that 2020 has had to offer already. Nobody in April would have thought we would have the PGA Tournament this weekend, with MLB, with NBA, with NHL, with MLS and with college and high schools around the country preparing for their seasons.

It doesn't take any talent at all to spread fear and despair today. It does skill and conviction to spread hope, optimism and positivism. I'm glad I know which camp Thamel continues to fall under.

My issue with some of you that think these college sport reporters/writers want to see doom and gloom are forgetting one thing: this can affect their financial income and job security. If an opinion doesn't reflect your thoughts then it's view negatively regardless of side you fall on in this debate as to whether or not these games should be played.

Back in April, I knew plenty of people that thought sports would return. Are some sports safer to return than others? Absolutely! The PGA, NASCAR, MLS, WNBA and NBA has shown that is can return safely, at least so far! MLB is stumbling but we'll see how that works out. But they have circumstances that are uniquely different than football.

But lets be honest, most of you don't give a damn about these athletes or their families, you only care about having a sport that you love get played come hell or high water. It doesn't take skill to spread negativity or optimism, but it does some decency to be respectful of someone's opinion whether you like it or not. And apparently it also takes some skill to wear a f'n mask too!

Regardless, being optimistic or pessimistic about college football doesn't affect whether it will or will not be played.

I respect Pete Thamel's right to voice his opinion. But I don't have to necessarily agree with it.

I do agree with you that many of us (I've been guilty of it) are selfishly concerned about how disappointed we will be if there is no college football season — failing to see the true concern: the health of the players, coaches and their families.

Players and families will be fine. Players are likely to party and expose themselves that way. They are low risk. Older coaches can distance and should be fine. Its the fans who could catch and massively spread the virus. Crowds of 25-50,000? Not a good idea.

Agree on the crowds. That's why if we have a college football season (and for selfish reasons, I hope we do), there ideally would be no fans (like with the pros).

One of my best fans is a serious Tennessee fan who has been militantly conscientious about addresses virus concerns he always wears a mask, is respectful of others' personal space, etc.). A very society-respectful man. However, he said he might attend a few UT games in Neyland Stadium if capacity is limited to one-fourth. I've told him flatly: don't do it.

P5 schools do not have the money to test the players everyday. You are having players not being responsible and go out and partying and wind up giving a teammate the virus who have like diabetes, and killing the teammate. They should follow suit and pushed all sports to spring.

(08-07-2020 11:38 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  P5 schools do not have the money to test the players everyday. You are having players not being responsible and go out and partying and wind up giving a teammate the virus who have like diabetes, and killing the teammate. They should follow suit and pushed all sports to spring.

And all parties and dates, etc get pushed to spring too, right?

(08-07-2020 11:44 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  [quote='DavidSt' pid='16934056' dateline='1596818284']
P5 schools do not have the money to test the players everyday. You are having players not being responsible and go out and partying and wind up giving a teammate the virus who have like diabetes, and killing the teammate. They should follow suit and pushed all sports to spring.

And all parties and dates, etc get pushed to spring too, right?
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It makes good common sense for college presidents to push the football season to the spring.

(08-08-2020 11:02 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-07-2020 11:44 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  [quote='DavidSt' pid='16934056' dateline='1596818284']
P5 schools do not have the money to test the players everyday. You are having players not being responsible and go out and partying and wind up giving a teammate the virus who have like diabetes, and killing the teammate. They should follow suit and pushed all sports to spring.

And all parties and dates, etc get pushed to spring too, right?
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It makes good common sense for college presidents to push the football season to the spring.

Along with many others I have suggested just that. We may even have a vaccine available by then to make it even safer. But if admins are determined to play some football this fall, do it as safely as possible. Kids are going to party, date and otherwise socialize. There is no way to stop it so expect outbreaks with or without sports.

(08-08-2020 11:02 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-07-2020 11:44 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  [quote='DavidSt' pid='16934056' dateline='1596818284']
P5 schools do not have the money to test the players everyday. You are having players not being responsible and go out and partying and wind up giving a teammate the virus who have like diabetes, and killing the teammate. They should follow suit and pushed all sports to spring.

And all parties and dates, etc get pushed to spring too, right?
[/quote

It makes good common sense for college presidents to push the football season to the spring.

There will not be any spring football.
To play in the spring would put fall football 2021 in peril. Injuries in the spring would create problems for the real season only a few months later.

Gloom and doom. There was life before football and there will be life if football is cancelled for this year. There are plenty of other things to do on a Saturday afternoon in the fall with or with out alcohol and tailgate parties. Yes it is fun to do these things in the fall but we can move on for a year or until this virus is under control.

(08-07-2020 10:21 AM)bullet Wrote:  Players and families will be fine. Players are likely to party and expose themselves that way. They are low risk. Older coaches can distance and should be fine. Its the fans who could catch and massively spread the virus. Crowds of 25-50,000? Not a good idea.

As long as there is a risk, low or not you can't say players or their families are going to be fine. Speak for yourself and not others bullet.

(08-06-2020 03:04 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  I do agree with Thamel on this:

Thamel Wrote:“Each day, many campus executives become more unsure about playing fall sports,” said an industry source. “They read the headlines, they see the student concerns and they have a greater understanding of the risks involved. Ultimately, this may come down to simply who wants to go first.”

Like Thamel said, this is exactly what is happening.

(08-08-2020 12:40 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-07-2020 10:21 AM)bullet Wrote:  Players and families will be fine. Players are likely to party and expose themselves that way. They are low risk. Older coaches can distance and should be fine. Its the fans who could catch and massively spread the virus. Crowds of 25-50,000? Not a good idea.

As long as there is a risk, low or not you can't say players or their families are going to be fine. Speak for yourself and not others bullet.

Suggest you read Coog's post. Players have vastly more exposure from other students than from football. Some argument that they are safer with football going on with all the precautions.

This is an opinion board. Suggest you look up the definition.

(08-08-2020 01:15 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-08-2020 12:40 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(08-07-2020 10:21 AM)bullet Wrote:  Players and families will be fine. Players are likely to party and expose themselves that way. They are low risk. Older coaches can distance and should be fine. Its the fans who could catch and massively spread the virus. Crowds of 25-50,000? Not a good idea.

As long as there is a risk, low or not you can't say players or their families are going to be fine. Speak for yourself and not others bullet.

Suggest you read Coog's post. Players have vastly more exposure from other students than from football. Some argument that they are safer with football going on with all the precautions.

This is an opinion board. Suggest you look up the definition.

I'm not saying you don't have an opinion. What I said is you can't speak for others regarding this virus. There are young people who have passed this ***** of a virus to their family members with tragic results. That's all!

(08-08-2020 12:20 PM)panite Wrote:  Gloom and doom. There was life before football and there will be life if football is cancelled for this year. There are plenty of other things to do on a Saturday afternoon in the fall with or with out alcohol and tailgate parties. Yes it is fun to do these things in the fall but we can move on for a year or until this virus is under control.

You get the luxury of partying and tailgating with all your emoji friends - the rest of us don’t have those connections.

(08-08-2020 04:21 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(08-08-2020 12:20 PM)panite Wrote:  Gloom and doom. There was life before football and there will be life if football is cancelled for this year. There are plenty of other things to do on a Saturday afternoon in the fall with or with out alcohol and tailgate parties. Yes it is fun to do these things in the fall but we can move on for a year or until this virus is under control.

You get the luxury of partying and tailgating with all your emoji friends - the rest of us don’t have those connections.

It is zee paper personality cut outs for you Monsieur!