(02-10-2020 10:50 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 09:19 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Many of us including Bernie Sanders are calling for us to modal ourselves on healthcare like Israel, Canada, the UK, Germany, Japan, the Nordic countries, and others like that. Most of the countries used the single payer government run health care as an investment to keep people healthy from birth to death. It is an investment for babies to be grown up as healthy to work at jobs which brings in more money as an investment for their kids, and grandkids and great grandkids. I think we need that.

Bernie Sanders voted against bailing out the banks in 2008 and the auto bail outs. He voted against giving free money to oil companies to media companies as he said bailing them out is like giving them money that many paid no to a little taxes as possible. It was giving our money, the little people to the 1%.

So, lets leave aside the fact that none of the countries you've listed have even $200M people and a non-homogeneous population. Never mind the inevitable tax increase on those who make over $60K along with the Nationalization of the Energy sector that Kaplony mentioned as even Bernie know that there isn't enough money to bankroll this dream. We'll not talk about the fact that Sanders has no idea of how to increase the number of medical professionals and simply focus on this; The the US Gov't currently runs at least 4 social medical programs right now.

Medicare/Medicaid
Tricare
VA
ACA

Of the ones listed, which one do you think actually delivers on the medical services? I'll help you out and tell you its Tricare, but just barely. It has the advantage of applying health standards to at least one member of the family and can be withdrawn for noncompliance. As the General Public isn't signing up for that you are now left with three programs that are absolute failures. So why do you think the Federal Government can do better job with more people under its purview when it can't manage the ~100M it is responsible for now?

Medicare/Medicaid are generally rated with the highest satisfaction ratings in the country year after year.

People act like their health insurance companies don't constantly try to screw them. I don't understand it.