(07-01-2020 02:37 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote: Ham, you gotta be kidding. OO literally said “No. Trump losing = Democrats winning. That would be a disaster.” to Big when he asked “ If it turns out that either of the following is true, would it affect your opinion of Trump enough to possibly dissuade you from voting for him? ”
Which very clearly means that like most of you Democrats voting against Trump as opposed to 'for' Biden... they are voting AGAINST Democrats. If you claim you don't understand the difference, then you're not being honest... because it is quite literally the mantra the left has been pushing for your own party for months... and arguably, years.
(07-02-2020 02:49 AM)mrbig Wrote: (07-01-2020 10:05 AM)Hambone10 Wrote: Please quote the actual times those words were used. If they weren't, and I'm confident they weren't... then you're arguing with the voices in your head that you're assigning to others.
That's on you, pumpkin.
I feel like you are plagiarizing from me things I wrote to you recently.
Then you're not paying attention to the specifics, just as before. You hold 'me' to this standard, but not yourself.
I said 'stupid' and you claimed you never used the word... and I said that I had chosen a single word to sum up your position on those people, and I stand by the usage. You yourself admitted that had you written it 6 months earlier, I would have been 'close enough' for conversation. You NEVER denied that 'not thinking highly' of them was incorrect... or that you meant whatever words you used to imply admiration or respect.
YOU used the word 'indistinguishable'. That's the specific word you used. It means, 'not able to be identified as different or distinct'.
If you are not able to identify the difference or distinction between voting FOR someone, and voting AGAINST someone else... then to plagiarize you again, I wonder if you guys are as smart as I think you are. The DNC certainly recognizes the difference and distinction.
So again, you're using specific words and then not holding yourself to the specific meaning of those specific words, and then taking me to task for using words that YOU ADMITTED (at least at some point) fairly summed up your position, and even now... is close enough. I never said it was indistinguishable... I just said it was close enough... and invited you to replace my words with yours... and you danced around that offer.
At Ease's summary paints a picture of blind support for Trump that clearly doesn't exist.... and he continues to insist that such support exists. Blind distaste for the Democratic alternative, perhaps. FTR, In addition to numbers and I actually voting 3rd party, I've said I'd vote Bernie over Trump. That sort of flies in the face of 'blind support' doesn't it.
Let me help you all....
A vote for Trump, whether it is because you support Trump or whether you simply hate Democrats is still a vote for Trump.... just as some/many of you are voting for Biden, but really support someone else. Unlike you, I submit that this much is true. Calling us 'indistinguishable from bots, maga-hat wearers etc etc' says more about your inability to discern obvious details. I can certainly tell the difference between Bernie and Biden supporters... even though both will likely vote for Biden.... especially when they tell me that they're Bernie supporters, but voting for Biden because Bernie lost the nomination.
The most interesting thing to me is that I've yet to hear any of you say that you're voting for someone else (your preferred candidate)... and yet I know at least two of us on the right here are likely to do just that.
Three lefts puts you at the same place as a single right, but clearly they aren't indistinguishable from each other to someone with average, much less above average intelligence. If you don't care about those details and merely want to cast aspersions at those who disagree with you on a fundamental basis politically, that's a little beneath the discourse we've come to expect on here.