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(06-30-2020 04:49 PM)mrbig Wrote:  Regarding the reports of Russia paying the Taliban to kill allied (including US) soldiers, quick question for those thinking of voting for Trump in 2020. If it turns out that either of the following is true, would it affect your opinion of Trump enough to possibly dissuade you from voting for him? Obviously, both of these are just possibilities at this time and there are many other possibilities.
1 - this was in one of Trump's PDBs and he either didn't read it, forgot about it, or is now lying about whether it was in his PDB at some point.
2 - Trump learned about this through his PDB or otherwise and did nothing about.

It wouldn't change mind because I'm almost certainly not voting for him anyway. I'm already on record that it is time for him to step aside and let somebody like Nikki Hailey carry the torch.

I have said Libertarian if I can, Trump if i must. But thinking about it, if Trump needs me to win Texas, he's dead meat nationally. So I'm pretty much Libertarian all the way if it's Trump. Hailey or any other republican, I'm 100% republican.

I'm tired of Trump, but democrats scare the bejeezus out of me.
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(06-30-2020 04:49 PM)mrbig Wrote:  Regarding the reports of Russia paying the Taliban to kill allied (including US) soldiers, quick question for those thinking of voting for Trump in 2020. If it turns out that either of the following is true, would it affect your opinion of Trump enough to possibly dissuade you from voting for him? Obviously, both of these are just possibilities at this time and there are many other possibilities.

1 - this was in one of Trump's PDBs and he either didn't read it, forgot about it, or is now lying about whether it was in his PDB at some point.
2 - Trump learned about this through his PDB or otherwise and did nothing about.

No. Trump losing = Democrats winning. That would be a disaster.
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Quote:With less than two weeks to go until the Iowa caucus, Donald Trump remains characteristically confident about his chances. In fact, the Republican front-runner is so confident, he says his supporters would stay loyal even if he happened to commit a capital offense.

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible
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(06-30-2020 07:12 PM)At Ease Wrote:  
Quote:With less than two weeks to go until the Iowa caucus, Donald Trump remains characteristically confident about his chances. In fact, the Republican front-runner is so confident, he says his supporters would stay loyal even if he happened to commit a capital offense.

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible

You claim to be a Rice graduate, which implies some common sense.

One person says he's voting 3rd party, but would never vote for Democrats...
Another says he's voting against Democrats

and rather than hear exactly how ****** UP they see the Democratic party, you hear 'Trump supporter'?

I think we've just demonstrated the reason you can't tell the difference between us and them, and it sure as hell isn't 'us'.
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(07-01-2020 09:01 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(06-30-2020 07:12 PM)At Ease Wrote:  
Quote:With less than two weeks to go until the Iowa caucus, Donald Trump remains characteristically confident about his chances. In fact, the Republican front-runner is so confident, he says his supporters would stay loyal even if he happened to commit a capital offense.

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. "It's, like, incredible

You claim to be a Rice graduate, which implies some common sense.

One person says he's voting 3rd party, but would never vote for Democrats...
Another says he's voting against Democrats

and rather than hear exactly how ****** UP they see the Democratic party, you hear 'Trump supporter'?

I think we've just demonstrated the reason you can't tell the difference between us and them, and it sure as hell isn't 'us'.

If the "somebody" he shot was in the middle of pulling down a statue of George Washington, I might even make a campaign donation. [/humor attempt]

But yeah, like Numbers, I see the Democrats as the worst possible choice. I see the GOP as their only viable alternative, while he goes Libertarian, but my vote is as much antiDemocrat as his.

I have made the point that for me, the top priorities are tax/fiscal policies and foreign policy. Their incessant antibusiness policies would make me vote for anybody not Democrat. The foreign policies of the Dem party are exemplified to me by the cowardice in the Crimea and the "not in my time" Iran deal.

In addition, I oppose rioting, looting, and vandalism. Oh, and mobs pulling down statues.

Big asked me if anything could make me not vote for Trump. Well, in 2016, I did not vote for Trump, so I guess the answer is hopelessness. I thought Hillary was a lock. So, as my own little miniprotest to his personality, I withheld my vote. But nothing can happen that would make me vote FOR Biden.

In the second quarter of 2020, the Dow rose 17.7%. I am not sure which Democrat policies were responsible. [/sarcasm] But if the Dems sweep Congress and the WH, watch it go into freefall. Watch unemployment rise. The economy will be sacrificed on the altar of the environment, and the policies will not even be designed to correct climate change.

I would prefer to see the economy come back.

Among the original list of Democrat candidates, i liked Biden. Still like him better than say, Sanders or Warren. Nice guy, empty suit. But he is going to be a puppet, and I don't know who will be pulling his strings. I also expect the Dems to move to 25th Amendment him as a political strategy, so they can run an incumbent in 2024 So the VP(future POTUS) is being selected on race and sex. Period. Not a good way to choose a future Prez. It's as if the Dems are hell bent on scoring some "firsts". Who was the first president to reduce black unemployment?
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Trump's base [projected]: We don't care if Trump shot someone on 5th avenue, the Democrats must be stopped.

Rice poster [actual]: I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.

Hambone: I just can't see where you get off trying to equate the two, where is your common sense.

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(07-01-2020 09:53 AM)At Ease Wrote:  Trump's base [projected]: We don't care if Trump shot someone on 5th avenue, the Democrats must be stopped.

Rice poster [actual]: I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.

Hambone: I just can't see where you get off trying to equate the two, where is your common sense.

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Democratic base (projected): I don't care who we nominate or what they would do, we have to beat Trump.

At Ease (actual): Go democrats! Beat Trump. Sis, boom, rah rah RAH!!!
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(07-01-2020 09:53 AM)At Ease Wrote:  Trump's base [projected]: We don't care if Trump shot someone on 5th avenue, the Democrats must be stopped.

Rice poster [actual]: I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.

Hambone: I just can't see where you get off trying to equate the two, where is your common sense.

03-lmfao

Please quote the actual times those words were used. If they weren't, and I'm confident they weren't... then you're arguing with the voices in your head that you're assigning to others.

That's on you, pumpkin.
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(07-01-2020 10:05 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 09:53 AM)At Ease Wrote:  Trump's base [projected]: We don't care if Trump shot someone on 5th avenue, the Democrats must be stopped.

Rice poster [actual]: I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.

Hambone: I just can't see where you get off trying to equate the two, where is your common sense.

03-lmfao

Please quote the actual times those words were used. If they weren't, and I'm confident they weren't... then you're arguing with the voices in your head that you're assigning to others.

That's on you, pumpkin.

yeah, he lied about what I said.
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RE: Trump Administration
(07-01-2020 10:07 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:05 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 09:53 AM)At Ease Wrote:  Trump's base [projected]: We don't care if Trump shot someone on 5th avenue, the Democrats must be stopped.

Rice poster [actual]: I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.

Hambone: I just can't see where you get off trying to equate the two, where is your common sense.

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Please quote the actual times those words were used. If they weren't, and I'm confident they weren't... then you're arguing with the voices in your head that you're assigning to others.

That's on you, pumpkin.

yeah, he lied about what I said.

He lied about what I said as well.

'Equating' the two and 'being indistinguishable' are not remotely the same thing.

As I pointed out... you didn't vote at all last time and Numbers (and I and others) voted 3rd party. That is clearly not the same as 'supporting Trump'. People who support Trump obviously vote FOR Trump.

The fact that neither of these decisions gives a vote to Biden does not make the rationale 'indistinguishable' to anyone above perhaps a 5th grade education.
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(07-01-2020 10:19 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:07 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:05 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 09:53 AM)At Ease Wrote:  Trump's base [projected]: We don't care if Trump shot someone on 5th avenue, the Democrats must be stopped.

Rice poster [actual]: I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.

Hambone: I just can't see where you get off trying to equate the two, where is your common sense.

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Please quote the actual times those words were used. If they weren't, and I'm confident they weren't... then you're arguing with the voices in your head that you're assigning to others.

That's on you, pumpkin.

yeah, he lied about what I said.

He lied about what I said as well.

'Equating' the two and 'being indistinguishable' are not remotely the same thing.

As I pointed out... you didn't vote at all last time and Numbers (and I and others) voted 3rd party. That is clearly not the same as 'supporting Trump'. People who support Trump obviously vote FOR Trump.

The fact that neither of these decisions gives a vote to Biden does not make the rationale 'indistinguishable' to anyone above perhaps a 5th grade education.

As I have said, I will vote for Trump in 2020 after sitting out 2016. But that is based on Trump's results, not some cult like following of the man, as it seems people mean when they refer to his "base'.

It does bring up the question, is a cult like allegiance to a party better than a cult like allegiance to an individual? ( before making an answer, consider Sanders and Hillary)
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This is perhaps the best way to say it....

Assuming Trump wasn't protecting someone's life when he shot someone on 5th avenue... I'd want him put in jail... as i suspect would the rest of you. That directly conflicts with the quote being used to 'define' a supporter/his base.

If he ignored intelligence, that puts him on par not only with Obama and Hillary (and arguably Bush and FDR and scores of others) but the entire left-wing investigation into 'Russia-Gate'... so that's basically nothing to me... other than 'not his best moment'.... and now I have to consider the alternatives, and the left has given me Biden, who wouldn't ignore it, but also wouldn't understand it... and the 'justice democrats' who probably would have supported the Taliban.
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RE: Trump Administration
(07-01-2020 10:05 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 09:53 AM)At Ease Wrote:  Trump's base [projected]: We don't care if Trump shot someone on 5th avenue, the Democrats must be stopped.

Rice poster [actual]: I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.

Hambone: I just can't see where you get off trying to equate the two, where is your common sense.

03-lmfao

Please quote the actual times those words were used. If they weren't, and I'm confident they weren't... then you're arguing with the voices in your head that you're assigning to others.

Posters are welcome to accept or reject my interpretation of posts 12452, 12453, and 12454. A forum warning for that only reflects on you.

(07-01-2020 10:05 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  That's on you, pumpkin.

This is Biden-level creepiness.
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RE: Trump Administration
(07-01-2020 10:31 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:19 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:07 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:05 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 09:53 AM)At Ease Wrote:  Trump's base [projected]: We don't care if Trump shot someone on 5th avenue, the Democrats must be stopped.

Rice poster [actual]: I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.

Hambone: I just can't see where you get off trying to equate the two, where is your common sense.

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Please quote the actual times those words were used. If they weren't, and I'm confident they weren't... then you're arguing with the voices in your head that you're assigning to others.

That's on you, pumpkin.

yeah, he lied about what I said.

He lied about what I said as well.

'Equating' the two and 'being indistinguishable' are not remotely the same thing.

As I pointed out... you didn't vote at all last time and Numbers (and I and others) voted 3rd party. That is clearly not the same as 'supporting Trump'. People who support Trump obviously vote FOR Trump.

The fact that neither of these decisions gives a vote to Biden does not make the rationale 'indistinguishable' to anyone above perhaps a 5th grade education.

As I have said, I will vote for Trump in 2020 after sitting out 2016. But that is based on Trump's results, not some cult like following of the man, as it seems people mean when they refer to his "base'.

It does bring up the question, is a cult like allegiance to a party better than a cult like allegiance to an individual? ( before making an answer, consider Sanders and Hillary)

Is it better than a cult like hatred to a party, an individual, or to posters? (consider WAM)
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(07-01-2020 11:21 AM)At Ease Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:05 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 09:53 AM)At Ease Wrote:  Trump's base [projected]: We don't care if Trump shot someone on 5th avenue, the Democrats must be stopped.

Rice poster [actual]: I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.

Hambone: I just can't see where you get off trying to equate the two, where is your common sense.

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Please quote the actual times those words were used. If they weren't, and I'm confident they weren't... then you're arguing with the voices in your head that you're assigning to others.

Posters are welcome to accept or reject my interpretation of posts 12452, 12453, and 12454.

Not the first time I have seen some beanbag claim something they pretty much fabricated from whole cloth as an 'interpretation'. It seems to be the refuge of one who has been caught in a falsehood for the most part, mind you.

I typically see that dumb*** 'label' it in the course of pro-bono representations of someone who really has zero case. Why am I not surprised here?

WAM at his best, I guess.....
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(07-01-2020 11:21 AM)At Ease Wrote:  
(07-01-2020 10:05 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Please quote the actual times those words were used. If they weren't, and I'm confident they weren't... then you're arguing with the voices in your head that you're assigning to others.

Posters are welcome to accept or reject my interpretation of posts 12452, 12453, and 12454.

Let me help you here as you seem to be having trouble with the language.

You're entitled to your interpretation, but you're not entitled to your own facts. If that's how you choose to interpret what people said, that's on you as I said.... In any event, 'what they said' and 'what you claim they said' may be similar from your clearly warped perspective, but they are not remotely indistinguishable.

You didn't even TRY to quote me saying that you 'equated' the two, because of course, I never did.... so you're willing to lie to continue to attack people.

Talk about a cult.

I asked you to quote any of the comments... and you're admitting that you can't.... because NOBODY said what you claim they did. Saying someone is not guilty and saying someone is innocent are immaterial differences under our laws, but they are not indistinguishable to the educated.
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Ham, you gotta be kidding. OO literally said “No. Trump losing = Democrats winning. That would be a disaster.” to Big when he asked “ If it turns out that either of the following is true, would it affect your opinion of Trump enough to possibly dissuade you from voting for him? ”

The following items were:
1 - this was in one of Trump's PDBs and he either didn't read it, forgot about it, or is now lying about whether it was in his PDB at some point.
2 - Trump learned about this through his PDB or otherwise and did nothing about.

#2 is literally, as At Ease said, “ I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.“

So to shorten it:
Big - if Trump knew about attacks and did nothing, would you NOT vote for him?
OO - No, Dems can’t win the election.
At Ease - one our posters said they don’t care if Trump sad idly while he knew our troops were targeted because Dems must be stopped.
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(07-01-2020 02:37 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Ham, you gotta be kidding. OO literally said “No. Trump losing = Democrats winning. That would be a disaster.” to Big when he asked “ If it turns out that either of the following is true, would it affect your opinion of Trump enough to possibly dissuade you from voting for him? ”

The following items were:
1 - this was in one of Trump's PDBs and he either didn't read it, forgot about it, or is now lying about whether it was in his PDB at some point.
2 - Trump learned about this through his PDB or otherwise and did nothing about.

#2 is literally, as At Ease said, “ I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.“

So to shorten it:
Big - if Trump knew about attacks and did nothing, would you NOT vote for him?
OO - No, Dems can’t win the election.
At Ease - one our posters said they don’t care if Trump sad idly while he knew our troops were targeted because Dems must be stopped.

I'll shorten it further:

Big: Would you take poison if I proved to you that Trump is a Russian bot?
OO: No. Taking poison is stupid.
AE: OO is OK with Trump being a Russian bot.
Lad: AE is right.

The point is, taking poison(voting for Democrats) is bad. Bad for me, for my family, for my country.

Now, as one of my more historically prominent ancestors said of a political rival (former ally), "By the Grace of God, the villain died from taking poison, which he took to avoid being shot."

Well if the alternative is bad enough, I guess I will take the poison. But unsupported innuendo is not enough, as we discovered in the Russia Collusion hoax. (hmm...Russia again? I thought Obama told us that was so 80's)

I wonder how many people refused to vote for FDR after he ignored the intel that Pearl Harbor was going to happen?
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(07-01-2020 02:37 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Ham, you gotta be kidding. OO literally said “No. Trump losing = Democrats winning. That would be a disaster.” to Big when he asked “ If it turns out that either of the following is true, would it affect your opinion of Trump enough to possibly dissuade you from voting for him? ”

The following items were:
1 - this was in one of Trump's PDBs and he either didn't read it, forgot about it, or is now lying about whether it was in his PDB at some point.
2 - Trump learned about this through his PDB or otherwise and did nothing about.

#2 is literally, as At Ease said, “ I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.

Change "Trump", "our troops", and "Democrats" to "FDR and Churchill", "Eastern European people", and "Hitler", and you have a pretty accurate description of Allied policy in 1942-1945 -- which, unseemly as it was, was better than letting Hitler win.

Of course, it is possible that the current Democratic Party is not the principal threat to American liberty and civilization, but that is far from clear. :)
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(07-01-2020 02:37 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Ham, you gotta be kidding. OO literally said “No. Trump losing = Democrats winning. That would be a disaster.” to Big when he asked “ If it turns out that either of the following is true, would it affect your opinion of Trump enough to possibly dissuade you from voting for him? ”
The following items were:
1 - this was in one of Trump's PDBs and he either didn't read it, forgot about it, or is now lying about whether it was in his PDB at some point.
2 - Trump learned about this through his PDB or otherwise and did nothing about.
#2 is literally, as At Ease said, “ I don't care if Trump sat idly as our troops were targeted and shot, Democrats must be stopped.“
So to shorten it:
Big - if Trump knew about attacks and did nothing, would you NOT vote for him?
OO - No, Dems can’t win the election.
At Ease - one our posters said they don’t care if Trump sad idly while he knew our troops were targeted because Dems must be stopped.

I would not vote for Biden or any other democrat in this election under any circumstances. Democrats have multiple issue positions, as I have outlined previously, that are absolute drop-dead show-stoppers for me. And I vote based on issues, not personalities. So nothing about Donald Trump could make me vote democrat.

There are things about Donald Trump that will probably cause me not to vote for him. But they wouldn't cause me to vote for Biden or any democrat.

I have said libertarian if I can, Trump if I must. But if Trump needs me to carry Texas, he's dead meat nationally.
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