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RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - pesik - 02-13-2019 12:08 AM (02-12-2019 11:52 PM)stxrunner Wrote: That part I agree with, but if Temple and UCF are tournament worthy teams, then they should be winning those games. It’s completely within their control. It’s not USFs job to make sure Temple and UCF can earn their way into the tourney. you are knocking houston for our 150-ish game like harvard abd Murray state when .. you missed my entire point... again i said you can schedule bad but put a limit to is... murray stae, harvard, boise lsu, rhode island arent slayers but atleat they arent a all 300 rpi line up... literally everyone usf scheduled was alow conference team projected to be bad, and lucked into 1 good game (again gtowned joined the jamaicca classic really late)..if you are being reasonable there is a clear diffeence again my point was limiting how bad, not making great schedules and your 1st statement miss the enitre point of the post...its not about hurting ucf or temple..the teams..its about hurting the conference...you cant sabootage the confernce and then claim they should have won games.... i dont care about ucf bid or temple bid..i care about the aac getting "4" bid: ucf temple or usf RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Foreverandever - 02-13-2019 12:15 AM (02-12-2019 11:41 PM)pesik Wrote:(02-12-2019 11:27 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:(02-12-2019 11:13 PM)pesik Wrote:(02-12-2019 10:45 PM)Foreverandever Wrote: By the way that's off the top of my head but you are being disingenuous at best with that nonsense you just pulled from your behind. By two different metrics it is clear your schedules were equivalent. Careful when you fall off that high horse it's a long ways back to where you actually are. Pesik, I already gave you credit for the Utah State and LSU games. Otherwise your schedule is meh. Injuries happen to everybody Pesik, literally everybody. So now Oregon is great? No. They're top 5 in an autobid conference. Quit using NET, we have no ranking to compare it to in the past. RPI, Kenpom, Massey. Those are apple to apple comparisons unless you are implying that Sampson knew the formula for the NET when making his schedule? The super secret formula no one knows or understands? It's not me saying Houston's schedules are the same. It's the metrics. I just point it out. It's like you getting mad at me for telling you a everything falls at the same rate of speed because of the law of gravity. (Taking into account other forces acting upon said objects). RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Foreverandever - 02-13-2019 12:18 AM (02-13-2019 12:08 AM)pesik Wrote:(02-12-2019 11:52 PM)stxrunner Wrote: That part I agree with, but if Temple and UCF are tournament worthy teams, then they should be winning those games. It’s completely within their control. It’s not USFs job to make sure Temple and UCF can earn their way into the tourney. Continues to demand people be reasonable, while arguing for something that is unreasonable. The chutzpah on this guy..... RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - stxrunner - 02-13-2019 12:31 AM (02-13-2019 12:08 AM)pesik Wrote:(02-12-2019 11:52 PM)stxrunner Wrote: That part I agree with, but if Temple and UCF are tournament worthy teams, then they should be winning those games. It’s completely within their control. It’s not USFs job to make sure Temple and UCF can earn their way into the tourney. I wasn’t knocking UHs old schedule, quite the opposite in fact. I thought it was smart. I was disagreeing with your assertion that those teams were any more than a couple games UH got lucky on with the way those teams played, and they still weren’t great teams. I want more tourney bids too. But scheduling a couple barely top 100 teams would have done nothing for USF in terms of making the tourney. They would have needed high level quality wins. I don’t think they were ready for those. Considering they don’t have a Q1 win this year, it seems to be the case. As far as UCF and Temple go, if they don’t lose to Penn and FAU, then they wouldn’t be sweating as bad. That’s more to blame then a solid Q1/Q2/Q3 game against USF. If you are mad about the tourney bids, then shake your fist at the sky and ask why those bad losses happened, rather than rant on USF for being a solid team this year. RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - stxrunner - 02-13-2019 12:36 AM Pesik, just to help illustrate the point. Think about if I was on here, blaming ECU for hurting our seeding/tourney bid chances because they played an abysmal OOC schedule yet were good enough to beat UC once. Their schedule was even worse than USFs. That would be a pretty disingenuous stance. Again, I’m all for a scheduling mandate. But if we don’t have one, then teams with new coaches that are bad should be trying to win games and build the program, not worry about whether a conference mates tourney chances might be hurt because of them. RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - vcoog - 02-13-2019 02:22 AM Good lord that argument is stupid. I’m just happy USF has a nice total in their win column. I don’t really even care who they played to get it. It’s freaking progress. UH scheduled really bad teams the 2nd and 3rd year of Sampson because he knew his team was already disadvantaged in conference play. You have to have wins to build a program. We started having like 1 major non conf game with LSU and Arkansas series And now we have a solid schedule (but as your arguments show you never do know how the schedule turns out) Put those same teams on the schedule next year and UH’s SOS could be top 75 or 275 you never know but name brands help. RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Bearcats#1 - 02-13-2019 08:22 AM (02-13-2019 02:22 AM)vcoog Wrote: Good lord that argument is stupid. I will accept this on a 1 year only basis as a jump starter for a new coach, but thats it. After that the man needs to schedule up so as not to screw the rest of us annually. If he can't win enough to keep his job, then its next coach in. The danger in this however is if a coach makes a habit of a junk schedule and wins just enough of said junk schedule to keep his job. See Lebo at ECU. RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - vick mike - 02-13-2019 09:02 AM (02-13-2019 08:22 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:(02-13-2019 02:22 AM)vcoog Wrote: Good lord that argument is stupid. Temple has always scheduled tough and will continue next year with first year coach Aaron McKie. Cupcake wins are not in our DNA. Cupcake losses? Yeah we have those. RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - bullsbucsfan426 - 02-13-2019 11:45 AM (02-12-2019 10:58 PM)pesik Wrote:(02-12-2019 10:20 PM)bullsbucsfan426 Wrote: Enough. USF's philosophy worked and quite frankly was necessary. The teams USF scheduled were challenges regardless. Next year's schedule should be much better. The NCAAT may be a long shot this year, but we got to the point where USF is a tier 1 game at home and tier 2 on the road. You can't tell me that somehow harms the conference. If the AAC decides to put a scheduling mandate in place, we have a system, stable recruiting, and good facilities-that will keep the talent rolling in and USF winning long term regardless of how hard the schedule is. As others have said, it is not USF's job to ensure other teams make the tourney. Memphis, SMU, UConn, and the rest of the conference beneath us had their opportunity to win against us (and the only one that did was Tulsa). They didn't. That's not our fault. We won, we've moved into the top 75 of the NET, heck before a trap game against ECU we were ranked 67, We won that game-are you going to get on the Bearcats for losing to them on the road? After all, we won that same game. If USF wins the rest of their games, it's because the rest of their schedule couldn't stop them. That includes your Cougars. Heck, part of the reason Temple is on the bubble is because of their win vs us in Philadelphia! End of day, if UCF wanted to make sure they were safe they should have beaten Wichita State on the road and not lose a home game to the likes of FAU. If Temple wanted to make sure they were safe they shouldn't have gotten blown out at Tulsa. Don't blame USF for doing what the progam is supposed to do-win! Go get your wins yourself. Our scheduling philosophy for the year worked, better than we expected but again the wins are on the board. Complaining about USF beating Memphis and UConn is like complaining about third parties getting votes that would never have gone to the Democrats and Republicans in the first place. We earned our wins, just like 3rd parties earn their votes. RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - AndShock - 02-13-2019 12:46 PM It should be every team in the conference’s job to be as good of a win as possible and as not bad of a loss as possible. If we need a mandate to ensure that, then let’s have a mandate. RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Bearcat2012 - 02-22-2019 09:03 AM 2/22 update with 3 weeks to go ....... • First Round - Thursday, March 14 • Game 1: No. 8 Tulsa vs. No. 9 SMU (1 p.m. ET/Noon CT - ESPNU) • Game 2: No. 5 Memphis vs. No. 12 Tulane (3 p.m. ET/2 p.m. CT - ESPNU) • Game 3: No. 7 Wichita St vs. No. 10 UConn (8 p.m. ET/7 p.m. CT - ESPNU) • Game 4: No. 6 USF vs. No. 11 ECU (10 p.m. ET/9 p.m. CT - ESPNU) • Quarterfinals - Friday, March 15 • Game 5: No. 1 Houston vs. Tulsa/SMU (12 p.m. ET/11 a.m. CT - ESPN2) • Game 6: No. 4 Temple vs. Memphis/Tulane (2 p.m. ET/1 p.m. CT - ESPN2) • Game 7: No. 2 Cincinnati vs.Wichita St/UConn (7 p.m.ET/6 p.m.CT - ESPNU) • Game 8: No. 3 UCF vs. USF/ECU (9 p.m. ET/8 p.m. CT - ESPNU) RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - HuskyU - 02-22-2019 09:06 AM Love it! RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - MemTigers1998 - 02-22-2019 09:07 AM I'd take that in a heartbeat. Gets me a half-day off work Thur & Fri RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Bearcat2012 - 02-22-2019 09:09 AM (02-22-2019 09:07 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: I'd take that in a heartbeat. Gets me a half-day off work Thur & Fri #5 Basically gets a bye too. Just sayin' RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Stickboy46 - 02-22-2019 09:14 AM (02-22-2019 09:09 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:(02-22-2019 09:07 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: I'd take that in a heartbeat. Gets me a half-day off work Thur & Fri That's why I'm hoping Wichita can slip up to the 5 seed! RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - virgosports - 02-22-2019 09:25 AM (02-22-2019 09:14 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:(02-22-2019 09:09 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:(02-22-2019 09:07 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: I'd take that in a heartbeat. Gets me a half-day off work Thur & Fri How well WSU is playing and with their remaining schedule, they could end up a 4 seed at this point. UCF has a tough schedule the rest of the way. RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Stickboy46 - 02-22-2019 09:28 AM (02-22-2019 09:25 AM)virgosports Wrote:(02-22-2019 09:14 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:(02-22-2019 09:09 AM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:(02-22-2019 09:07 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: I'd take that in a heartbeat. Gets me a half-day off work Thur & Fri thats a REALLY long shot, but yes it's there. I'd actually rather that not happen because that means UCF would likely not be an at-large team anymore. We aren't going to be able to do enough to make it there, so I'd rather UCF gets an At-large then WSU steals a bid from the 5 seed :) (unlikely) RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - MemTigers1998 - 02-22-2019 09:47 AM 1st day tournament is gen adm seating according to our AD on radio yesterday. That’s from the AAC. RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - Tiger1983 - 02-22-2019 10:11 AM (02-22-2019 09:47 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: 1st day tournament is gen adm seating according to our AD on radio yesterday. That’s from the AAC. Finally, the opportunity to sit in the expensive seats. RE: AAC Conference Tournament Bracketology - UCBearcat4ever - 02-22-2019 01:13 PM (02-22-2019 09:47 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote: 1st day tournament is gen adm seating according to our AD on radio yesterday. That’s from the AAC. been like that the last few years |