BCS Title Game Jan. 6 Pasadena, Calif.. BCS vs BCS Alabama vs. Oregon

Orange Jan. 3 Miami, Fla. ACC/BCS vs BCS Florida State vs. UCF

Sugar Jan. 2 New Orleans, La. SEC/BCS vs BCS South Carolina vs. Wisconsin

Fiesta Jan. 1 Glendale, Ariz. Big 12/BCS vs BCS Oklahoma State vs. Fresno State

Rose Jan. 1 Pasadena, Calif. Big Ten/BCS vs Pac-12/BCS Ohio State vs. Stanford


Would the Orange really pick UCF ahead of Wisconsin?

(11-04-2013 10:57 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  BCS Title Game Jan. 6 Pasadena, Calif.. BCS vs BCS Alabama vs. Oregon

Orange Jan. 3 Miami, Fla. ACC/BCS vs BCS Florida State vs. UCF

Sugar Jan. 2 New Orleans, La. SEC/BCS vs BCS South Carolina vs. Wisconsin

Fiesta Jan. 1 Glendale, Ariz. Big 12/BCS vs BCS Oklahoma State vs. Fresno State

Rose Jan. 1 Pasadena, Calif. Big Ten/BCS vs Pac-12/BCS Ohio State vs. Stanford


Would the Orange really pick UCF ahead of Wisconsin?

Bowls are probably pretty anxious to get into the playoffs and get out of having the BE and one "other" champ in their 5 bowl grouping.

I don't see UCF being put in over Wisconsin. Although UCF would guarantee a sell out for sure I would think.

I don't really see Wisconsin getting up to 14 though either.

Jerry Palm is an idiot. Oklahoma State in the Fiesta Bowl? It ain't going to happen.

I guess he put too much stock in their win over Texas Tech.

(11-04-2013 11:15 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I don't see UCF being put in over Wisconsin. Although UCF would guarantee a sell out for sure I would think.

I don't really see Wisconsin getting up to 14 though either.

UCF is guaranteed bowl if they win Old Big East this year.

(11-04-2013 11:40 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 11:15 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I don't see UCF being put in over Wisconsin. Although UCF would guarantee a sell out for sure I would think.

I don't really see Wisconsin getting up to 14 though either.

UCF is guaranteed bowl if they win Old Big East this year.

I know that. But, I don't see the Orange taking them over Wisconsin.. The only thing that may happen is some discussion if South Carolina is the SEC rep of a trade with the Orange- to avoid a UCF/South Carolina rematch. If Orange doesn't want to deal, I could see Sugar taking someone else eligible to avoid that rematch.

I definitely don't see Wisconsin making it to 14. A lot of teams in front of them would have to lose and some multiple times. Michigan State has a much better shot as they are 7 spots higher.

(11-04-2013 12:31 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I definitely don't see Wisconsin making it to 14. A lot of teams in front of them would have to lose and some multiple times. Michigan State has a much better shot as they are 7 spots higher.

Correct !

ACC fans- even if Wisconsin or Michigan St don't make it to the top 14, a Big 12 team likely would. Either one will be extremely attractive to the Orange.

(11-04-2013 10:57 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  BCS Title Game Jan. 6 Pasadena, Calif.. BCS vs BCS Alabama vs. Oregon

Orange Jan. 3 Miami, Fla. ACC/BCS vs BCS Florida State vs. UCF

Sugar Jan. 2 New Orleans, La. SEC/BCS vs BCS South Carolina vs. Wisconsin

Fiesta Jan. 1 Glendale, Ariz. Big 12/BCS vs BCS Oklahoma State vs. Fresno State

Rose Jan. 1 Pasadena, Calif. Big Ten/BCS vs Pac-12/BCS Ohio State vs. Stanford


Would the Orange really pick UCF ahead of Wisconsin?

IF Alabama is lucky enough to win out, they will face FSU, and FSU will shut them down. Oregon will be in the Rose Bowl against Ohio State. Toss up in that game. Missouri will go to the Sugar, not SC, and will likely beat their opponent. Stanford may make the Orange.

(11-04-2013 01:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  ACC fans- even if Wisconsin or Michigan St don't make it to the top 14, a Big 12 team likely would. Either one will be extremely attractive to the Orange.

Why does that matter?

(11-04-2013 01:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:57 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  BCS Title Game Jan. 6 Pasadena, Calif.. BCS vs BCS Alabama vs. Oregon

Orange Jan. 3 Miami, Fla. ACC/BCS vs BCS Florida State vs. UCF

Sugar Jan. 2 New Orleans, La. SEC/BCS vs BCS South Carolina vs. Wisconsin

Fiesta Jan. 1 Glendale, Ariz. Big 12/BCS vs BCS Oklahoma State vs. Fresno State

Rose Jan. 1 Pasadena, Calif. Big Ten/BCS vs Pac-12/BCS Ohio State vs. Stanford


Would the Orange really pick UCF ahead of Wisconsin?

IF Alabama is lucky enough to win out, they will face FSU, and FSU will shut them down. Oregon will be in the Rose Bowl against Ohio State. Toss up in that game. Missouri will go to the Sugar, not SC, and will likely beat their opponent. Stanford may make the Orange.

So much wrong in that post....
1- Pretty much, Oregon controls their own destiny. If they win out, they go to the title game. If they lsoe, it's to Stanford, putting Stanford in the Rose. Oregon would be the one in the Orange.
2- Sugar Bowl- I don't see a scenario where Alabama wins out that Missouri makes the Sugar. If Missouri loses to A&M, Missouri doesn't win the east- and might not be top 14. If Missouri beats A&M, they then lose to Alabama, and bowls don't like losers of CCG generally.

(11-04-2013 01:18 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 01:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  ACC fans- even if Wisconsin or Michigan St don't make it to the top 14, a Big 12 team likely would. Either one will be extremely attractive to the Orange.

Why does that matter?

Some ACC fans are looking for any scenario to get Clemson in the BCS. With the NAQ team making the BCS, there would be 1 spot left, decided by the Orange. If Alabama/Oregon make title game, SEC/P12 get 2/4 at large spots, NAQ gets 3rd.

It will most likely be Alabama and Oregon.

I'd like to see it be Alabama and FSU but I think that's less likely.

(11-04-2013 01:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 01:18 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 01:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  ACC fans- even if Wisconsin or Michigan St don't make it to the top 14, a Big 12 team likely would. Either one will be extremely attractive to the Orange.

Why does that matter?

Some ACC fans are looking for any scenario to get Clemson in the BCS. With the NAQ team making the BCS, there would be 1 spot left, decided by the Orange. If Alabama/Oregon make title game, SEC/P12 get 2/4 at large spots, NAQ gets 3rd.

It will make it easier if FSU is in the national title game that's for sure. IF FSU is in the OB, then the OB gets the first pick. That absolutely would suck if the choices where UCF, Fresno State, Clemson, Ok St, Michigan St. Clemson is obviously the best team of the three but it would be a rematch. If the OB takes UCF, then I would bei the Sugar Bowl would take Clemson leaving Fresno for the Fiesta.

I am starting to wonder if Oregon struggles with Stanford winning something like 24-21 if poll voters may start swaying towards FSU. I don't know if that'll be enough given the cpu situation.

(11-04-2013 01:43 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 01:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 01:18 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 01:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  ACC fans- even if Wisconsin or Michigan St don't make it to the top 14, a Big 12 team likely would. Either one will be extremely attractive to the Orange.

Why does that matter?

Some ACC fans are looking for any scenario to get Clemson in the BCS. With the NAQ team making the BCS, there would be 1 spot left, decided by the Orange. If Alabama/Oregon make title game, SEC/P12 get 2/4 at large spots, NAQ gets 3rd.

It will make it easier if FSU is in the national title game that's for sure. IF FSU is in the OB, then the OB gets the first pick. That absolutely would suck if the choices where UCF, Fresno State, Clemson, Ok St, Michigan St. Clemson is obviously the best team of the three but it would be a rematch. If the OB takes UCF, then I would bei the Sugar Bowl would take Clemson leaving Fresno for the Fiesta.

I don't think you can discount the Big Ten factor. I think either the Orange or Sugar would take Michigan St over Clemson in a heartbeat.

(11-04-2013 01:47 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 01:43 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 01:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 01:18 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 01:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  ACC fans- even if Wisconsin or Michigan St don't make it to the top 14, a Big 12 team likely would. Either one will be extremely attractive to the Orange.

Why does that matter?

Some ACC fans are looking for any scenario to get Clemson in the BCS. With the NAQ team making the BCS, there would be 1 spot left, decided by the Orange. If Alabama/Oregon make title game, SEC/P12 get 2/4 at large spots, NAQ gets 3rd.

It will make it easier if FSU is in the national title game that's for sure. IF FSU is in the OB, then the OB gets the first pick. That absolutely would suck if the choices where UCF, Fresno State, Clemson, Ok St, Michigan St. Clemson is obviously the best team of the three but it would be a rematch. If the OB takes UCF, then I would bei the Sugar Bowl would take Clemson leaving Fresno for the Fiesta.

I don't think you can discount the Big Ten factor. I think either the Orange or Sugar would take Michigan St over Clemson in a heartbeat.

Yeah if the team was Ohio State or Michigan. Wisconsin or Michigan State doesn't have that same following. Clemson is more attractive than they are.

(11-04-2013 01:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I am starting to wonder if Oregon struggles with Stanford winning something like 24-21 if poll voters may start swaying towards FSU. I don't know if that'll be enough given the cpu situation.

That's what I've been saying for days. Oregon had better not struggle. You can already see the human polls starting to "wonder".

(11-04-2013 01:55 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 01:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I am starting to wonder if Oregon struggles with Stanford winning something like 24-21 if poll voters may start swaying towards FSU. I don't know if that'll be enough given the cpu situation.

That's what I've been saying for days. Oregon had better not struggle. You can already see the human polls starting to "wonder".

The problem though is the computers for FSU. No matter what you say, watch after this weekend. Oregon probably passes FSU. The real problem is in 2 weeks. While FSU gets Idaho, Oregon plays Arizona. Arizona's avg cpu rating is 32 right now. Idaho is 108. That's a huge difference. I just don't see FSU getting far enough ahead of Oregon in the polls to make the computers meaningless.