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Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed Because It Doesn’t Give Obama Unlimited Power
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RE: Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed
(10-12-2013 07:28 PM)maximus Wrote:  Had to sit next to that prick on a flight last year, I swear I wanted to punched him in the face. The flight attendants brought me champagne to thank me.

Leftists despise the founding documents

Next time have a couple of drinks and your post will read like my edited version.
10-13-2013 08:13 PM
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RE: Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed Because It Doesn’t Give Obama Unlimited Power
It's sad that people are calling it a flaw when it is working exactly as intended. Watching these two guys talk in the video made me sick. The mechanism for breaking a deadlock is simple, an election. The point of these restrictions and setup is to prevent a swing in any way too fast without overwhelming support.
10-13-2013 08:14 PM
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RE: Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed
Wouldn't a constitutional crisis mean one of two things:

1) The constitution isn't working as it was designed. (clearly NOT the case here)

2) There is a challenge to the constitution itself (are the democrats and progressive liberals challenging the constitution).
10-13-2013 08:25 PM
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RE: Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed Because It Doesn’t Give Obama Unlimited Power
If the Democrats take the House in 2014 look for talk of a Constitutional Convention
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RE: Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed
(10-13-2013 08:46 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  If the Democrats take the House in 2014 look for talk of a Constitutional Convention

That is worse case. Best case dingy Harry opts for the "nuclear option" and moves to require only simple majorities for all senate votes.
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Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed Because It Doesn’t Give Obama Unlimited
The Republicans controls too many state legislatures for the Democrats to amend the constitution in their favor. Unless if the Democrats can fix that in November as well, any ideas they have for a constitutional convention will remain just that - ideas.

I think the Democrats are more likely to lose the Senate than take the House, not that either will probably happen.
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RE: Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed Because It Doesn’t Give Obama Unlimited Power
(10-13-2013 08:46 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  If the Democrats take the House in 2014 look for talk of a Constitutional Convention

They have a better chance proving the moon landing was a hoax.
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RE: Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed Because It Doesn’t Give Obama Unlimited Power
Article 5 of the Constitution, which says constitutional amendments may be proposed in two ways—either by two-thirds majorities in both houses of Congress or by a convention called by two-thirds of the state legislatures. Whichever way an amendment is proposed, however, it cannot become part of the Constitution unless it is ratified by three-quarters of the states.

Some possible amendments

Imposing a 12-year limit on serving in Congress
Returning the election of U.S. senators to state legislatures
Requiring Congress to balance the budget and limiting federal spending to 17.5 percent of GDP
Limiting federal taxation to 15 percent of an individual's or a corporation's earnings
Empowering a special congressional committee to veto regulations issued by federal bureaucracies
Prohibiting Congress from compelling anyone to participate in commerce (such as forcing them to buy health insurance)
Requiring Congress to publish the final text of any proposed legislation at least 30 days before holding a final vote on it
Requiring individuals to present a state-issued photo ID that establishes their identity and citizenship before they are allowed to register or vote.

You know, common sense stuff....
(This post was last modified: 10-13-2013 09:06 PM by SumOfAllFears.)
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RE: Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed Because It Doesn’t Give Obama Unlimited Power
(10-13-2013 07:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 07:49 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  I hate that little latte drinking turd!

I think he might be a eunuch.

"It's time for androgyny...it's just Chris!"

Yeah him and Maddow look the same imo
10-13-2013 09:09 PM
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RE: Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed Because It Doesn’t Give Obama Unlimited Power
(10-13-2013 09:09 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 07:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 07:49 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  I hate that little latte drinking turd!

I think he might be a eunuch.

"It's time for androgyny...it's just Chris!"

Yeah him and Maddow look the same imo

Have you noticed that those far left types all tend to have the same physical features? I've often wondered if it is an undocumented form of retardation.
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RE: Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed Because It Doesn’t Give Obama Unlimited Power
(10-13-2013 09:05 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Article 5 of the Constitution, which says constitutional amendments may be proposed in two ways—either by two-thirds majorities in both houses of Congress or by a convention called by two-thirds of the state legislatures. Whichever way an amendment is proposed, however, it cannot become part of the Constitution unless it is ratified by three-quarters of the states.

Some possible amendments

Imposing a 12-year limit on serving in Congress
Returning the election of U.S. senators to state legislatures
Requiring Congress to balance the budget and limiting federal spending to 17.5 percent of GDP
Limiting federal taxation to 15 percent of an individual's or a corporation's earnings
Empowering a special congressional committee to veto regulations issued by federal bureaucracies
Prohibiting Congress from compelling anyone to participate in commerce (such as forcing them to buy health insurance)
Requiring Congress to publish the final text of any proposed legislation at least 30 days before holding a final vote on it
Requiring individuals to present a state-issued photo ID that establishes their identity and citizenship before they are allowed to register or vote.

You know, common sense stuff....

This is a really dumb list.
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(10-13-2013 08:13 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(10-12-2013 07:28 PM)maximus Wrote:  Had to sit next to that prick on a flight last year, I swear I wanted to punched him in the face. The flight attendants brought me champagne to thank me.

Leftists despise the founding documents

Next time have a couple of drinks and your post will read like my edited version.
I certainly hope you were arrested for assault. Of course, I am not surprised you are a violent person. Probably why Lowe's fired your ass.
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(10-13-2013 09:09 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 07:54 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 07:49 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  I hate that little latte drinking turd!

I think he might be a eunuch.

"It's time for androgyny...it's just Chris!"

Yeah him and Maddow look the same imo

Maddow's sex change
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RE: Chris Hayes: The Constitution Is Flawed Because It Doesn’t Give Obama Unlimited Power
This thread reminds me of a scene in Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones. A conflicted Anakin Skywalker and Padme are discussing politics:

Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones. Scene 5…
Anakin Skywalker: I don’t think the system works.
Padmé: How would you have it work?
Anakin Skywalker: We need a system where the politicians sit down
and discuss the problem… agree what’s in the best interest of all people… and then do it.
Padmé: That’s exactly what we do. The trouble is that people don’t always agree.
Anakin Skywalker: Well, then they should be made to.
Padmé: By whom? Who’s going to make them?
Anakin Skywalker: I don’t know. Someone.
Padmé: You?
Anakin Skywalker: Of course not me.
Padmé: But someone.
Anakin Skywalker: Someone wise.
Padmé: Sounds an awful lot like a dictatorship to me.
Anakin Skywalker: Well, if it works.

Hayes sounds a lot like Skywalker here. We all know how that turned out...
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Hard to take anyone seriously, who is trying to appear like a journalist, that feels the need to call people libertards and who doesn't seem to know the difference between "their" and "there", but I can assure you, this would have never been said when Bush was in office.
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Hayes should shoot himself in the head...his brain deserves it.
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