(09-12-2013 01:34 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 01:33 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 01:29 PM)VA49er Wrote:  $7,000 food stamp balance.

Exclusive: $7,000 Food Stamp Balance

Yeah because that sh*t is like rollover minutes... What you don't use during the month rolls over into the next month. They renew every year if I'm not mistaken.

Just another way in which the system doesn't work.

Exactly. Another example of how it's flawed, you don't need an ID when using it. People get these food stamps and sell X amount to so-and-so, say they get $50 bucks from you, they let you use $75 or whatever on the card... Totally f*cking raping our tax dollars.

With 46.6 million of the nation on food stamps, Hispanics seemingly having all the McDonald and WalMart jobs, got to think there is something major wrong with the economy. Even though we get Lib propaganda every month how much better we are doing. As much a loud mouth as that woman in the video is, maybe with six kids she cannot find a job that she can work and feed her family. Not defending, just saying it may be true. If I had 6 kids and no food I would be upset. Heck, if I had six kids I would be upset.

(09-12-2013 01:49 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  With 46.6 million of the nation on food stamps, Hispanics seemingly having all the McDonald and WalMart jobs, got to think there is something major wrong with the economy. Even though we get Lib propaganda every month how much better we are doing. As much a loud mouth as that woman in the video is, maybe with six kids she cannot find a job that she can work and feed her family. Not defending, just saying it may be true. If I had 6 kids and no food I would be upset. Heck, if I had six kids I would be upset.

Well, if one had six kids and couldn't afford food, maybe one should have thought about that before having the six kids. Just another way the rest of us are having to pay for someone else's stupidity.

(09-12-2013 01:24 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 12:39 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  How did blacks go from 13.5% to 13% to 12.6% back to 13.5% in just a few years? That's the point here, that's why it doesn't add up.

Anyone here ever wonder if the census numbers are falsified for political gain?

I mean, with this administration what isn't?

I'm sorry. I just can't do this any more. I'm out.

(09-12-2013 01:49 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  With 46.6 million of the nation on food stamps, Hispanics seemingly having all the McDonald and WalMart jobs, got to think there is something major wrong with the economy. Even though we get Lib propaganda every month how much better we are doing. As much a loud mouth as that woman in the video is, maybe with six kids she cannot find a job that she can work and feed her family. Not defending, just saying it may be true. If I had 6 kids and no food I would be upset. Heck, if I had six kids I would be upset.

The main problem here is going out and screwing without protection, getting pregnant, and feeling entitled. She may have been unsure about what she was doing during the first or second, but by the third one, she knew EXACTLY what she was doing... But instead of stopping, she just kept right on going...

(09-12-2013 02:07 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 01:49 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  With 46.6 million of the nation on food stamps, Hispanics seemingly having all the McDonald and WalMart jobs, got to think there is something major wrong with the economy. Even though we get Lib propaganda every month how much better we are doing. As much a loud mouth as that woman in the video is, maybe with six kids she cannot find a job that she can work and feed her family. Not defending, just saying it may be true. If I had 6 kids and no food I would be upset. Heck, if I had six kids I would be upset.

Well, if one had six kids and couldn't afford food, maybe one should have thought about that before having the six kids. Just another way the rest of us are having to pay for someone else's stupidity.

Playing Devil's Advocate, you know it must have been true love and he just ran off with another woman, so she was left with six kids.
I know, probably not true, but do believe, especially with the way the economy has been that there are a lot of people that need food stamps.

(09-12-2013 02:17 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 01:49 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  With 46.6 million of the nation on food stamps, Hispanics seemingly having all the McDonald and WalMart jobs, got to think there is something major wrong with the economy. Even though we get Lib propaganda every month how much better we are doing. As much a loud mouth as that woman in the video is, maybe with six kids she cannot find a job that she can work and feed her family. Not defending, just saying it may be true. If I had 6 kids and no food I would be upset. Heck, if I had six kids I would be upset.

The main problem here is going out and screwing without protection, getting pregnant, and feeling entitled. She may have been unsure about what she was doing during the first or second, but by the third one, she knew EXACTLY what she was doing... But instead of stopping, she just kept right on going...

I didn't watch it but maybe she had a husband and a job(both of them actually) and COULD afford the kids at that time? It happens. I am not saying it happened in this case, I don't know but before making stupid comments(generally based on her race it seems), it might be helpful to know her full situation.

Pay your own way people. If you can't afford to have kids don't have them.
Free stuff isn't a constitutional right.

(09-12-2013 02:12 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 01:24 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 12:39 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  How did blacks go from 13.5% to 13% to 12.6% back to 13.5% in just a few years? That's the point here, that's why it doesn't add up.

Anyone here ever wonder if the census numbers are falsified for political gain?

I mean, with this administration what isn't?

I'm sorry. I just can't do this any more. I'm out.

Frustrating isn't it?

(09-12-2013 01:24 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 12:39 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  How did blacks go from 13.5% to 13% to 12.6% back to 13.5% in just a few years? That's the point here, that's why it doesn't add up.

Anyone here ever wonder if the census numbers are falsified for political gain?

I mean, with this administration what isn't?

Census data is not falsified. Analysis for said census data could be and given to the public, but the data itself is as accurate as possible.

(09-12-2013 01:31 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 01:24 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 12:39 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  How did blacks go from 13.5% to 13% to 12.6% back to 13.5% in just a few years? That's the point here, that's why it doesn't add up.

Anyone here ever wonder if the census numbers are falsified for political gain?

I mean, with this administration what isn't?

Definitely... There's nobody who can sit here and tell me that the black population was 13.5% in the 80's. and 13% in the 90's, and now 12.6% in 2013... They have the highest birth rate, 2nd place is hispanics, and way down in last are whites. All of these inner cities where there are millions for population, whites are the minority, remember the popular vote... A sea of red all throughout the U.S. with little tiny pools of blue in the north and along the coasts... There is absolutely NO way that blacks only make up 12.6% of this population.

They do a good job of killing each other so death rate might high?
Does census count all of the convicted felons in jail?

(09-12-2013 02:27 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 02:17 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 01:49 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  With 46.6 million of the nation on food stamps, Hispanics seemingly having all the McDonald and WalMart jobs, got to think there is something major wrong with the economy. Even though we get Lib propaganda every month how much better we are doing. As much a loud mouth as that woman in the video is, maybe with six kids she cannot find a job that she can work and feed her family. Not defending, just saying it may be true. If I had 6 kids and no food I would be upset. Heck, if I had six kids I would be upset.

The main problem here is going out and screwing without protection, getting pregnant, and feeling entitled. She may have been unsure about what she was doing during the first or second, but by the third one, she knew EXACTLY what she was doing... But instead of stopping, she just kept right on going...

I didn't watch it but maybe she had a husband and a job(both of them actually) and COULD afford the kids at that time? It happens. I am not saying it happened in this case, I don't know but before making stupid comments(generally based on her race it seems), it might be helpful to know her full situation.

You were actually being decent until you jabbed at me and said "generally based on her race it seems."

My whole issue, regardless of your race, is having so many kids. I have 4 boys, all from the same woman, and we were married from the first born to the last, I was in the oilfield making great money so all the babies were insured, it was all taken care of and they were all affordable. You're right, this woman might have had it made during all those kids and hit a stroke of poor luck and if thats the case then I have no problem helping out. But you and I both know that it's not the case in most circumstances.

(09-12-2013 03:05 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 02:27 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 02:17 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 01:49 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  With 46.6 million of the nation on food stamps, Hispanics seemingly having all the McDonald and WalMart jobs, got to think there is something major wrong with the economy. Even though we get Lib propaganda every month how much better we are doing. As much a loud mouth as that woman in the video is, maybe with six kids she cannot find a job that she can work and feed her family. Not defending, just saying it may be true. If I had 6 kids and no food I would be upset. Heck, if I had six kids I would be upset.

The main problem here is going out and screwing without protection, getting pregnant, and feeling entitled. She may have been unsure about what she was doing during the first or second, but by the third one, she knew EXACTLY what she was doing... But instead of stopping, she just kept right on going...

I didn't watch it but maybe she had a husband and a job(both of them actually) and COULD afford the kids at that time? It happens. I am not saying it happened in this case, I don't know but before making stupid comments(generally based on her race it seems), it might be helpful to know her full situation.

You were actually being decent until you jabbed at me and said "generally based on her race it seems."

My whole issue, regardless of your race, is having so many kids. I have 4 boys, all from the same woman, and we were married from the first born to the last, I was in the oilfield making great money so all the babies were insured, it was all taken care of and they were all affordable. You're right, this woman might have had it made during all those kids and hit a stroke of poor luck and if thats the case then I have no problem helping out. But you and I both know that it's not the case in most circumstances.

How do you _know_ it's not the case? Do you have hard evidence that proves that most people on foodstamps are on it because they milk the system? I mean actual scientific data. Not some opinion piece. Walmart has tons of employees. Walmart does not pay these employees a living wage, and thus many walmart employees are forced to use foodstamps to live. Are they milking the system?

(09-12-2013 02:54 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 01:31 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 01:24 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 12:39 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  How did blacks go from 13.5% to 13% to 12.6% back to 13.5% in just a few years? That's the point here, that's why it doesn't add up.

Anyone here ever wonder if the census numbers are falsified for political gain?

I mean, with this administration what isn't?

Definitely... There's nobody who can sit here and tell me that the black population was 13.5% in the 80's. and 13% in the 90's, and now 12.6% in 2013... They have the highest birth rate, 2nd place is hispanics, and way down in last are whites. All of these inner cities where there are millions for population, whites are the minority, remember the popular vote... A sea of red all throughout the U.S. with little tiny pools of blue in the north and along the coasts... There is absolutely NO way that blacks only make up 12.6% of this population.

They do a good job of killing each other so death rate might high?
Does census count all of the convicted felons in jail?

I'm sure it does, I wondered, as well, if the death rate was close to the birth rate, but if whites are going to be a minority in 30 years, the current minorities better stop killing each other off, otherwise they'll never make it to 14% in the current system that is used to make them such a low minority.

I really wouldn't think it impossible for the population to be close to 50/50 to be honest. There's very very few towns that are all white or all black, the rest all seem to have an even mixture.

(09-12-2013 03:07 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 03:05 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 02:27 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 02:17 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 01:49 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  With 46.6 million of the nation on food stamps, Hispanics seemingly having all the McDonald and WalMart jobs, got to think there is something major wrong with the economy. Even though we get Lib propaganda every month how much better we are doing. As much a loud mouth as that woman in the video is, maybe with six kids she cannot find a job that she can work and feed her family. Not defending, just saying it may be true. If I had 6 kids and no food I would be upset. Heck, if I had six kids I would be upset.

The main problem here is going out and screwing without protection, getting pregnant, and feeling entitled. She may have been unsure about what she was doing during the first or second, but by the third one, she knew EXACTLY what she was doing... But instead of stopping, she just kept right on going...

I didn't watch it but maybe she had a husband and a job(both of them actually) and COULD afford the kids at that time? It happens. I am not saying it happened in this case, I don't know but before making stupid comments(generally based on her race it seems), it might be helpful to know her full situation.

You were actually being decent until you jabbed at me and said "generally based on her race it seems."

My whole issue, regardless of your race, is having so many kids. I have 4 boys, all from the same woman, and we were married from the first born to the last, I was in the oilfield making great money so all the babies were insured, it was all taken care of and they were all affordable. You're right, this woman might have had it made during all those kids and hit a stroke of poor luck and if thats the case then I have no problem helping out. But you and I both know that it's not the case in most circumstances.

How do you _know_ it's not the case? Do you have hard evidence that proves that most people on foodstamps are on it because they milk the system? I mean actual scientific data. Not some opinion piece. Walmart has tons of employees. Walmart does not pay these employees a living wage, and thus many walmart employees are forced to use foodstamps to live. Are they milking the system?

Way to miss the point. The company I work for has a CSR dept, many of those CSR's are on food stamps. They're single, or always partying, or have different boyfriends every month, and they ARE milking the system. They have KIDS and sell their food stamps for cash so they can buy other sh*t. Do you want to know the statistic of which race is on them? They aren't afraid to brag about "playing the system." There is one nasty little white girl and her mom on them, there are 3 hispanics, and about 14 blacks... So yeah, they brag about how they play the system "since they pay taxes too" and it's really frustrating because the honest ones (black and white, don't know about the other hispanics) go hungry because they DON'T have food because they are responsible and pay for their cars and rent houses, etc. I admire those guys. They make due with what they've got.

(09-12-2013 03:22 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 03:07 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 03:05 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 02:27 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 02:17 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  The main problem here is going out and screwing without protection, getting pregnant, and feeling entitled. She may have been unsure about what she was doing during the first or second, but by the third one, she knew EXACTLY what she was doing... But instead of stopping, she just kept right on going...

I didn't watch it but maybe she had a husband and a job(both of them actually) and COULD afford the kids at that time? It happens. I am not saying it happened in this case, I don't know but before making stupid comments(generally based on her race it seems), it might be helpful to know her full situation.

You were actually being decent until you jabbed at me and said "generally based on her race it seems."

My whole issue, regardless of your race, is having so many kids. I have 4 boys, all from the same woman, and we were married from the first born to the last, I was in the oilfield making great money so all the babies were insured, it was all taken care of and they were all affordable. You're right, this woman might have had it made during all those kids and hit a stroke of poor luck and if thats the case then I have no problem helping out. But you and I both know that it's not the case in most circumstances.

How do you _know_ it's not the case? Do you have hard evidence that proves that most people on foodstamps are on it because they milk the system? I mean actual scientific data. Not some opinion piece. Walmart has tons of employees. Walmart does not pay these employees a living wage, and thus many walmart employees are forced to use foodstamps to live. Are they milking the system?

Way to miss the point. The company I work for has a CSR dept, many of those CSR's are on food stamps. They're single, or always partying, or have different boyfriends every month, and they ARE milking the system. They have KIDS and sell their food stamps for cash so they can buy other sh*t. Do you want to know the statistic of which race is on them? They aren't afraid to brag about "playing the system." There is one nasty little white girl and her mom on them, there are 3 hispanics, and about 14 blacks... So yeah, they brag about how they play the system "since they pay taxes too" and it's really frustrating because the honest ones (black and white, don't know about the other hispanics) go hungry because they DON'T have food because they are responsible and pay for their cars and rent houses, etc. I admire those guys. They make due with what they've got.

How did I miss the point? You said most people aren't on food stamps because of bad luck or reasons out of their control. I asked for clarification and data to prove your point. I didn't ask about your personal experience of the people who take advantage of the system in your company. I asked about nationwide. Because with unemployment near 10%, it's hard for someone to just "go out and find a job", much less one that pays enough to live on.

Are the Hispanics going hungry paying their bills and rides maybe not qualified to get food stamps because they are here illegally?

(09-12-2013 03:36 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Are the Hispanics going hungry paying their bills and rides maybe not qualified to get food stamps because they are here illegally?

I don't know... Those are the ones who only answer the spanish calls and can't really speak English well so I don't talk to them.

(09-12-2013 03:26 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 03:22 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 03:07 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 03:05 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 02:27 PM)RobertN Wrote:  I didn't watch it but maybe she had a husband and a job(both of them actually) and COULD afford the kids at that time? It happens. I am not saying it happened in this case, I don't know but before making stupid comments(generally based on her race it seems), it might be helpful to know her full situation.

You were actually being decent until you jabbed at me and said "generally based on her race it seems."

My whole issue, regardless of your race, is having so many kids. I have 4 boys, all from the same woman, and we were married from the first born to the last, I was in the oilfield making great money so all the babies were insured, it was all taken care of and they were all affordable. You're right, this woman might have had it made during all those kids and hit a stroke of poor luck and if thats the case then I have no problem helping out. But you and I both know that it's not the case in most circumstances.

How do you _know_ it's not the case? Do you have hard evidence that proves that most people on foodstamps are on it because they milk the system? I mean actual scientific data. Not some opinion piece. Walmart has tons of employees. Walmart does not pay these employees a living wage, and thus many walmart employees are forced to use foodstamps to live. Are they milking the system?

Way to miss the point. The company I work for has a CSR dept, many of those CSR's are on food stamps. They're single, or always partying, or have different boyfriends every month, and they ARE milking the system. They have KIDS and sell their food stamps for cash so they can buy other sh*t. Do you want to know the statistic of which race is on them? They aren't afraid to brag about "playing the system." There is one nasty little white girl and her mom on them, there are 3 hispanics, and about 14 blacks... So yeah, they brag about how they play the system "since they pay taxes too" and it's really frustrating because the honest ones (black and white, don't know about the other hispanics) go hungry because they DON'T have food because they are responsible and pay for their cars and rent houses, etc. I admire those guys. They make due with what they've got.

How did I miss the point? You said most people aren't on food stamps because of bad luck or reasons out of their control. I asked for clarification and data to prove your point. I didn't ask about your personal experience of the people who take advantage of the system in your company. I asked about nationwide. Because with unemployment near 10%, it's hard for someone to just "go out and find a job", much less one that pays enough to live on.

Ok. Do you believe every statistic you see or do you ever have doubt due to personal experience in a vast majority of people you've met?

I don't know, maybe you're right, maybe where these stats are gathered, these women had several kids and a fantastic, great paying job with good benfits and healthcare, and/or a hard working husband who had it made for the several years it took to have all these kids and they all had the same stroke of bad luck and ended up here without a job or with a really low paying job and had to resort to food stamps.

(09-12-2013 03:59 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-12-2013 03:36 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Are the Hispanics going hungry paying their bills and rides maybe not qualified to get food stamps because they are here illegally?

I don't know... Those are the ones who only answer the spanish calls and can't really speak English well so I don't talk to them.

Would imagine there is a good chance then.