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Saw what you will about me being a bad fan, blah blah blah...

But coaching cost us that game tonight plain and simple. Onside kick, frivilous use of timeouts, the last possession of the game. McGee has his head so far up his ass that it is costing us games, and this hire has Brian Mackins nam all over it and I hope he is happy with what he sees on the field.

With that said, we had an awesome crowd out there tonight and the pregame tailgate was great. It's hard to keep doing this every year, but go big green

The onside kick did not cost us the game.
Special team mistakes, weak defense and penalties cost the game

Totally agree with you. If hadn't have known better would have thought zero was coaching them. No excuse for a scholarship long snapper to have not one but two bad snaps. All he has to do at practice is snap, snap, snap, should be automatic in a game.
The on side kick helped cost us the game. We had a two touchdown lead at the time and that gave them field position and they scored from there.

(08-31-2013 10:24 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  The onside kick did not cost us the game.
Special team mistakes, weak defense and penalties cost the game

Special teams!

The term onside kick needs to be banned from BlazerTalk for the next week. It did not cost the game. It resulted in a 3 point swing when there was a 14 point lead.

(08-31-2013 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The term onside kick needs to be banned from BlazerTalk for the next week. It did not cost the game. It resulted in a 3 point swing when there was a 14 point lead.

It's the one thing that people who want to blame the coach can point to.

(08-31-2013 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The term onside kick needs to be banned from BlazerTalk for the next week. It did not cost the game. It resulted in a 3 point swing when there was a 14 point lead.

You don't kick an onside kick when you have a 14 point lead! Football not 101 but 001. Ask any coach, except McGee and his staff.

(08-31-2013 10:35 PM)gadblaze Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The term onside kick needs to be banned from BlazerTalk for the next week. It did not cost the game. It resulted in a 3 point swing when there was a 14 point lead.

You don't kick an onside kick when you have a 14 point lead! Football not 101 but 001. Ask any coach, except McGee and his staff.

Yeah, totally ignore the piss poor defense, the 13 for 100+ yards penalties, and the piss poor time management. It was the onside kick.

So, it was still coaching, in other words. Well, he may be as incompetent as our other coaches, but at least he wasn't pushed on us by the BOT, right?

(08-31-2013 10:35 PM)gadblaze Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The term onside kick needs to be banned from BlazerTalk for the next week. It did not cost the game. It resulted in a 3 point swing when there was a 14 point lead.

You don't kick an onside kick when you have a 14 point lead! Football not 101 but 001. Ask any coach, except McGee and his staff.

That huge 3 point swing (which may have happened anyway) was certainly the main reason we lost

(08-31-2013 10:35 PM)gadblaze Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The term onside kick needs to be banned from BlazerTalk for the next week. It did not cost the game. It resulted in a 3 point swing when there was a 14 point lead.

You don't kick an onside kick when you have a 14 point lead! Football not 101 but 001. Ask any coach, except McGee and his staff.

Which is why it might work, because it is unexpected. And I think we were up 10 at the time. The fact that we got the lead up to 14 is what makes the onside kick irrelevant.

And even if we had not did the onsides kick, Troy might have still driven down and scored.

It's irrelevant.

It was more than just the onside kick; I bet even Les Miles would agree that was a dumb decision though. Penalties are how we managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. 1st and forty?! Our offense could have easily converted and we could have had a good drive down the field and widened the lead back to two touch downs, while eating up the clock. Until our coaches do something about these dumb arse penalties, we will have a hard time winning any game in the future whether it is LSU or an FCS team. I would say it comes down to endurance and conditioning. Coaches really need to work on this team's toughness both physical and mental.

(08-31-2013 10:28 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The term onside kick needs to be banned from BlazerTalk for the next week. It did not cost the game. It resulted in a 3 point swing when there was a 14 point lead.

It's the one thing that people who want to blame the coach can point to.

I can point to a few more things:

1. Subbing out a hot QB just to follow some script.

2. Clock management

3. Not recruiting a single impact defensive lineman (for the second year in a row) after this was such a glaring weak spot last season. It is still a glaring weak spot.

4. Over 100 yards in penalties, after being penalty prone last season, is a characteristic of an unfocused, undisciplined team.

(08-31-2013 10:47 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:28 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The term onside kick needs to be banned from BlazerTalk for the next week. It did not cost the game. It resulted in a 3 point swing when there was a 14 point lead.

It's the one thing that people who want to blame the coach can point to.

I can point to a few more things:

1. Subbing out a hot QB just to follow some script.

2. Clock management

3. Not recruiting a single impact defensive lineman (for the second year in a row) after this was such a glaring weak spot last season. It is still a glaring weak spot.

4. Over 100 yards in penalties, after being penalty prone last season, is a characteristic of an unfocused, undisciplined team.

So last year he was a bad coach because he played Brown instead of Perry. This year, he's a bad coach because he played perry instead of brown.

Why are people trying to defend him? If it was Watson or Callaway we'd have 100 threads calling for his head right now.

but to be fair, it doesn't really matter who the coach is.

(08-31-2013 10:53 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:47 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:28 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The term onside kick needs to be banned from BlazerTalk for the next week. It did not cost the game. It resulted in a 3 point swing when there was a 14 point lead.

It's the one thing that people who want to blame the coach can point to.

I can point to a few more things:

1. Subbing out a hot QB just to follow some script.

2. Clock management

3. Not recruiting a single impact defensive lineman (for the second year in a row) after this was such a glaring weak spot last season. It is still a glaring weak spot.

4. Over 100 yards in penalties, after being penalty prone last season, is a characteristic of an unfocused, undisciplined team.

So last year he was a bad coach because he played Brown instead of Perry. This year, he's a bad coach because he played perry instead of brown.

It has nothing to do with the individuals. It's the pattern of substitution. Last year Brown would be stinking it up and McGee would still keep him out there when a competent Jon Perry was on the sideline. Tonight Brown is playing lights out and he sees the bench for two straight series. Shows a lack of instincts, or maybe flexibility, on McGee's part.

(08-31-2013 10:57 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:53 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:47 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:28 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 10:26 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The term onside kick needs to be banned from BlazerTalk for the next week. It did not cost the game. It resulted in a 3 point swing when there was a 14 point lead.

It's the one thing that people who want to blame the coach can point to.

I can point to a few more things:

1. Subbing out a hot QB just to follow some script.

2. Clock management

3. Not recruiting a single impact defensive lineman (for the second year in a row) after this was such a glaring weak spot last season. It is still a glaring weak spot.

4. Over 100 yards in penalties, after being penalty prone last season, is a characteristic of an unfocused, undisciplined team.

So last year he was a bad coach because he played Brown instead of Perry. This year, he's a bad coach because he played perry instead of brown.

It has nothing to do with the individuals. It's the pattern of substitution. Last year Brown would be stinking it up and McGee would still keep him out there when a competent Jon Perry was on the sideline. Tonight Brown is playing lights out and he sees the bench for two straight series. Shows a lack of instincts, or maybe flexibility, on McGee's part.

I'll give him a pass on this one. Who's to say that JP doesn't come in and uses the ABs on fire start to fuel his even better start in trying to earn the job outright.

If there was no separation in them during camp, then there is no way to know (in the first quarter of the first game) that JP is going to come in and not be effective.

He did the right thing there...he went with the game plan and then abandoned it after it was very obvious that AB had the better hand tonight.

If the first half defense stuck around for the second, we're the ones enjoying the July 4th fireworks right now and stomping on a field that looks like faded carpet. Not playing for quarters of score-stopping D--the only definite complaint I can lob at this team and this coaching staff for this game.

Doubly sucks to lose to the likes of Troy. It's a weekend ruiner. With some fixes, it doesn't have to be a season ruiner.

I wish we had not decayed in our mental toughness in the last 1/3 of the game tonight, but "the culture of losing" we heard about when #15 was "fired", appears to have reared its head again among players we still have. We played 2/3 of tonight's game like Dr Jeckle and then played the last 1/3 like Mr Hyde. Even over the radio, you could almost sense the decay setting in as we almost sought ways to lose.

The preponderance of that last 1/3 of the game was straight out of the past 10 years of helpless offensive play complete with the penalties that gave us a 1st and 35 from our own 40 yd line. Brown played well until the 4th quarter "crunch time" and he and the others reverted to old Blazer type of self destructive playing that ended with being unable to even snap the ball for a relatively short field goal. It was painful to listen to so I would guess that it was worse to witness in person.

This game's result was worse than last year because we really had this game in hand until we lost our way.

Agree about JP and Brown. You go with the QB that's doing well. I'm sure a few of your have heard the "if it ain't broke..."; well you know how it goes.

I think McGee is great in a lot of respects, especially when it comes to coaching QBs and teaching offense. But I wonder about his ability to manage a game as a whole.