(08-13-2013 04:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:03 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  It's still popular to have kids. Go to a ghetto or trailer park and there will be plenty of pure, red-blooded American kids running around.

That's a pretty trashy statement. Many of those kids grow up to be lawyers and doctors.

I never said they didn't. As long as we have ghettos and trailer parks, baby makin' is never going out of style.

Speaking from experience?

(08-13-2013 04:09 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You aren't promoting the family unit. You are not promoting a higher birth rate among natives. Not caring is advocating the opposite.

So, instead of a quote, I get an assumption. Thanks for that.

Quote:How sick is it that we have been programmed to believe we must look outside our borders for growth and potential? This is another anti American sentiment brought to us from the statists among us.

Sweet Georgia Brown, you take some enormous leaps.

(08-13-2013 03:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:28 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 07:36 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 07:24 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 07:23 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Including yourself.

What's that supposed to mean?

It means a lot of things. If you don't identify with American culture, than your statement might have made sense. You are part of the "good." It's not someone else. You are included.

What is American Culture?

It's just like Mexican culture, or Chinese culture. Or Italian culture.

Can you be more specific - what to you is American culture? Is it shooting guns at highway signs? Drinking latte while listening to poetry? Watching baseball while drinking beer?

(08-13-2013 04:12 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:09 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:03 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  It's still popular to have kids. Go to a ghetto or trailer park and there will be plenty of pure, red-blooded American kids running around.

That's a pretty trashy statement. Many of those kids grow up to be lawyers and doctors.

Is he wrong?

Yes. We have a birthrate of 1.3. For a culture to maintain itself it must have a birth rate of 3.

His comment is not a logical response to the fact. Sure it's popular to have kids in some areas. (using a trailer park as an example shows his true feelings) but the birth rate is the truth behind our future.

I also used ghetto.

(08-13-2013 04:13 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:03 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  It's still popular to have kids. Go to a ghetto or trailer park and there will be plenty of pure, red-blooded American kids running around.

That's a pretty trashy statement. Many of those kids grow up to be lawyers and doctors.

I never said they didn't. As long as we have ghettos and trailer parks, baby makin' is never going out of style.

Speaking from experience?

Speaking from observation.

(08-13-2013 03:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:28 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 07:36 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 07:24 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 07:23 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Including yourself.

What's that supposed to mean?

It means a lot of things. If you don't identify with American culture, than your statement might have made sense. You are part of the "good." It's not someone else. You are included.

What is American Culture?

It's just like Mexican culture, or Chinese culture. Or Italian culture.

Which Mexican culture? Which Chinese culture? Which Italian culture?

(08-13-2013 04:14 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:12 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:09 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:07 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:03 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  It's still popular to have kids. Go to a ghetto or trailer park and there will be plenty of pure, red-blooded American kids running around.

That's a pretty trashy statement. Many of those kids grow up to be lawyers and doctors.

Is he wrong?

Yes. We have a birthrate of 1.3. For a culture to maintain itself it must have a birth rate of 3.

His comment is not a logical response to the fact. Sure it's popular to have kids in some areas. (using a trailer park as an example shows his true feelings) but the birth rate is the truth behind our future.

I also used ghetto.

So what? We have a birth rate of 1.3. Far too small to maintain a culture.

(08-13-2013 04:17 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:28 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 07:36 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 07:24 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  What's that supposed to mean?

It means a lot of things. If you don't identify with American culture, than your statement might have made sense. You are part of the "good." It's not someone else. You are included.

What is American Culture?

It's just like Mexican culture, or Chinese culture. Or Italian culture.

Which Mexican culture? Which Chinese culture? Which Italian culture?

don't play this game with me. You know damn well what I am talking about. We are a sovereign country with our own traditions, customs and culture. Within that are subcultures that are usually regional...just like all countries. Those subcultures are recognized as all to be American.

(08-13-2013 04:17 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:06 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Do you want to hold on to our culture, or do you want to replace it? Being white has little to do with it? Do you want our customs to carry on, or do you want them to be replaced with new ones?

I work with students, mostly children of immigrants, and the only thing we try to instill in them is hard work, self reliance, critical thinking, and innovation. IMO, those traits define the American culture. Otherwise, I don't mind other customs and traditions changing along with the demographics as long as the core values I listed are still there.

I do. So do millions of people.

(08-13-2013 04:20 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:17 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:28 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 07:36 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  It means a lot of things. If you don't identify with American culture, than your statement might have made sense. You are part of the "good." It's not someone else. You are included.

What is American Culture?

It's just like Mexican culture, or Chinese culture. Or Italian culture.

Which Mexican culture? Which Chinese culture? Which Italian culture?

don't play this game with me. You know damn well what I am talking about. We are a sovereign country with our own traditions, customs and culture. Within that are subcultures that are usually regional...just like all countries. Those subcultures are recognized as all to be American.

...heavily influenced by the Irish, French, German, Dutch, Polish, Russian...

It's apparently the brown people that have you uncomfortable.

(08-13-2013 04:23 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:20 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:17 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:28 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  What is American Culture?

It's just like Mexican culture, or Chinese culture. Or Italian culture.

Which Mexican culture? Which Chinese culture? Which Italian culture?

don't play this game with me. You know damn well what I am talking about. We are a sovereign country with our own traditions, customs and culture. Within that are subcultures that are usually regional...just like all countries. Those subcultures are recognized as all to be American.

...heavily influenced by the Irish, French, German, Dutch, Polish, Russian...

It's apparently the brown people that have you uncomfortable.

Do you want to go into how the Irish were treated?

Good job avoiding the point. We are no longer the melting pot we used to be during our inception. We have established our own identity. Some of us want to maintain that identity.

(08-13-2013 04:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Do you want to go into how the Irish were treated?

Yeah, they were scorned by people who said, "They're not like us. They can't assimilate. They'll destroy us."

Sound familiar?

Quote:Good job avoiding the point. We are no longer the melting pot we used to be during our inception. We have established our own identity. Some of us want to maintain that identity.

So, when did we lock in with this unique culture? 1886? 1919? 1957? 2010?

(08-13-2013 04:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:23 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:20 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:17 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 03:32 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  It's just like Mexican culture, or Chinese culture. Or Italian culture.

Which Mexican culture? Which Chinese culture? Which Italian culture?

don't play this game with me. You know damn well what I am talking about. We are a sovereign country with our own traditions, customs and culture. Within that are subcultures that are usually regional...just like all countries. Those subcultures are recognized as all to be American.

...heavily influenced by the Irish, French, German, Dutch, Polish, Russian...

It's apparently the brown people that have you uncomfortable.

Do you want to go into how the Irish were treated?

Good job avoiding the point. We are no longer the melting pot we used to be during our inception. We have established our own identity. Some of us want to maintain that identity.

I really don't understand your first point.

Some of the most influential builders of our culture come from the people who were treated badly. Blacks, Irish, Chinese, Jews, poor...

(08-13-2013 04:31 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Do you want to go into how the Irish were treated?

Yeah, they were scorned by people who said, "They're not like us. They can't assimilate. They'll destroy us."

Sound familiar?

Quote:Good job avoiding the point. We are no longer the melting pot we used to be during our inception. We have established our own identity. Some of us want to maintain that identity.

So, when did we lock in with this unique culture? 1886? 1919? 1957? 2010?

I would say by the 19th century we were pretty much established. I know liberals like you like to pretend culture must be piped in from somewhere else, but in actuality, all those cultures are a result of an early melting pot.

Another poster said he doesn't mind if the customs change as long as other sentiments remain. That is impossible when introducing new cultures that outpace the host.

It's pretty easy for you and others to take this stance while your signs are still in English.

(08-13-2013 04:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:31 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Do you want to go into how the Irish were treated?

Yeah, they were scorned by people who said, "They're not like us. They can't assimilate. They'll destroy us."

Sound familiar?

Quote:Good job avoiding the point. We are no longer the melting pot we used to be during our inception. We have established our own identity. Some of us want to maintain that identity.

So, when did we lock in with this unique culture? 1886? 1919? 1957? 2010?

I would say by the 19th century we were pretty much established. I know liberals like you like to pretend culture must be piped in from somewhere else, but in actuality, all those cultures are a result of an early melting pot.

Another poster said he doesn't mind if the customs change as long as other sentiments remain. That is impossible when introducing new cultures that outpace the host.

It's pretty easy for you and others to take this stance while your signs are still in English.

Dodged my comment about the Irish entirely.

Yeah, I'm a liberal to someone dangling off the far right edge. Don't worry though. Some lefty will call me a Nazi soon enough.

(08-13-2013 04:39 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:31 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Do you want to go into how the Irish were treated?

Yeah, they were scorned by people who said, "They're not like us. They can't assimilate. They'll destroy us."

Sound familiar?

Quote:Good job avoiding the point. We are no longer the melting pot we used to be during our inception. We have established our own identity. Some of us want to maintain that identity.

So, when did we lock in with this unique culture? 1886? 1919? 1957? 2010?

I would say by the 19th century we were pretty much established. I know liberals like you like to pretend culture must be piped in from somewhere else, but in actuality, all those cultures are a result of an early melting pot.

Another poster said he doesn't mind if the customs change as long as other sentiments remain. That is impossible when introducing new cultures that outpace the host.

It's pretty easy for you and others to take this stance while your signs are still in English.

Dodged my comment about the Irish entirely.

Yeah, I'm a liberal to someone dangling off the far right edge. Don't worry though. Some lefty will call me a Nazi soon enough.

What about the Irish? The Irish came during a time when we promoted American customs and assimilation. We didn't offer the Irish food stamps to illegally cross our border. The Irish don't share a border with us. The Irish didn't flood our country by breaking our laws. The Irish integrated into American society. The Irish didn't try to set up secret courts based on their radical religious beliefs.

I have seen nothing that indicates you are not a liberal. You are completely caught up in the far left agenda...

(08-13-2013 04:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:39 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:31 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Do you want to go into how the Irish were treated?

Yeah, they were scorned by people who said, "They're not like us. They can't assimilate. They'll destroy us."

Sound familiar?

Quote:Good job avoiding the point. We are no longer the melting pot we used to be during our inception. We have established our own identity. Some of us want to maintain that identity.

So, when did we lock in with this unique culture? 1886? 1919? 1957? 2010?

I would say by the 19th century we were pretty much established. I know liberals like you like to pretend culture must be piped in from somewhere else, but in actuality, all those cultures are a result of an early melting pot.

Another poster said he doesn't mind if the customs change as long as other sentiments remain. That is impossible when introducing new cultures that outpace the host.

It's pretty easy for you and others to take this stance while your signs are still in English.

Dodged my comment about the Irish entirely.

Yeah, I'm a liberal to someone dangling off the far right edge. Don't worry though. Some lefty will call me a Nazi soon enough.

What about the Irish? The Irish came during a time when we promoted American customs and assimilation. We didn't offer the Irish food stamps to illegally cross our border. The Irish don't share a border with us. The Irish didn't flood our country by breaking our laws. The Irish integrated into American society. The Irish didn't try to set up secret courts based on their radical religious beliefs.

And all the while some xenophobic folks like yourself were convinced they'd destroy the country, and worked hard to make them miserable for a long time.

Quote:I have seen nothing that indicates you are not a liberal. You are completely caught up in the far left agenda...

Yeah, well it turns out I no longer care where you think my political leanings are.

(08-13-2013 04:52 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:39 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:31 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Yeah, they were scorned by people who said, "They're not like us. They can't assimilate. They'll destroy us."

Sound familiar?


So, when did we lock in with this unique culture? 1886? 1919? 1957? 2010?

I would say by the 19th century we were pretty much established. I know liberals like you like to pretend culture must be piped in from somewhere else, but in actuality, all those cultures are a result of an early melting pot.

Another poster said he doesn't mind if the customs change as long as other sentiments remain. That is impossible when introducing new cultures that outpace the host.

It's pretty easy for you and others to take this stance while your signs are still in English.

Dodged my comment about the Irish entirely.

Yeah, I'm a liberal to someone dangling off the far right edge. Don't worry though. Some lefty will call me a Nazi soon enough.

What about the Irish? The Irish came during a time when we promoted American customs and assimilation. We didn't offer the Irish food stamps to illegally cross our border. The Irish don't share a border with us. The Irish didn't flood our country by breaking our laws. The Irish integrated into American society. The Irish didn't try to set up secret courts based on their radical religious beliefs.

And all the while some xenophobic folks like yourself were convinced they'd destroy the country, and worked hard to make them miserable for a long time.

Quote:I have seen nothing that indicates you are not a liberal. You are completely caught up in the far left agenda...

Yeah, well it turns out I no longer care where you think my political leanings are.

You're just lost man. You cannot grasp this. You want to compare Irish people from a different era to an influx of illegal aliens that are going through no assimilation process whatsoever. You can't make a connection that radical Islam is indeed taking hold in the US. You seem to think those people want to be Americans ...and you think that is xenophobic to see a problem with that? It's almost like you have no grasp of cause and effect or concern for our sovereignty.

Heh, people called the Irish terrorists, too.

Know what about all those unassimilating brown folks you're so afraid of?

They probably don't speak English. Their kids will be bilingual. Their grandkids will only speak English.

(08-13-2013 04:52 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:46 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:39 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:35 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 04:31 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Yeah, they were scorned by people who said, "They're not like us. They can't assimilate. They'll destroy us."

Sound familiar?


So, when did we lock in with this unique culture? 1886? 1919? 1957? 2010?

I would say by the 19th century we were pretty much established. I know liberals like you like to pretend culture must be piped in from somewhere else, but in actuality, all those cultures are a result of an early melting pot.

Another poster said he doesn't mind if the customs change as long as other sentiments remain. That is impossible when introducing new cultures that outpace the host.

It's pretty easy for you and others to take this stance while your signs are still in English.

Dodged my comment about the Irish entirely.

Yeah, I'm a liberal to someone dangling off the far right edge. Don't worry though. Some lefty will call me a Nazi soon enough.

What about the Irish? The Irish came during a time when we promoted American customs and assimilation. We didn't offer the Irish food stamps to illegally cross our border. The Irish don't share a border with us. The Irish didn't flood our country by breaking our laws. The Irish integrated into American society. The Irish didn't try to set up secret courts based on their radical religious beliefs.

And all the while some xenophobic folks like yourself were convinced they'd destroy the country, and worked hard to make them miserable for a long time.

Quote:I have seen nothing that indicates you are not a liberal. You are completely caught up in the far left agenda...

Yeah, well it turns out I no longer care where you think my political leanings are.

Okla thinks you're liberal, JF thinks you're black. You're just an enigma around these parts.