you are right, It wasn't just Skittles Trayvon was carrying. He carried a huge chip on his shoulder. A racial chip.

(07-31-2013 04:15 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  you are right, It wasn't just Skittles Trayvon was carrying. He carried a huge chip on his shoulder. A racial chip.

(07-31-2013 01:26 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 09:54 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 09:20 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

Among its reports, Trayvon Martin’s drug use, explaining how the Skittles and Arizona Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail drink he carried that night are ingredients that, when mixed with dextromethorphan (DXM) cough syrup, create “Lean”, a concocted high which can cause psychosis and aggression over the longer term. According to the autopsy report, Martin’s liver showed damage consistent with DXM abuse.
http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/07/it-wasnt-j...TVu6upO.99

I would appreciate some evidence of that. I just read the medical examiners report and for the liver it states, "no diagnostic abnormalities". That certainly doesn't appear consistent with what you have stated. Of course I might have missed something.

No.You didn't miss anything. The story was from WND. THey have a history of making **** up or majorly spinning to the right.

Exactly - and then morons go around quoting it as truth, and sending it out in chain emails.

(07-31-2013 01:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And I'm not sure of Florida law, but here in Michigan you're supposed to get ID'd when buying such medicine.

Exactly.

(07-31-2013 12:47 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 12:44 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 12:17 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 10:42 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  I love how we get toxicology reports on the guy who got shot but nothing from the shooter.

Show me that it's SOP to draw blood and do tox on every shooter.

If you want the entire story, then you test both.

How do you know Z wasn't tested?

The police said that they didn't feel like they needed to.

(07-31-2013 01:24 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 12:44 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 12:17 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 10:42 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  I love how we get toxicology reports on the guy who got shot but nothing from the shooter.

Show me that it's SOP to draw blood and do tox on every shooter.

If you want the entire story, then you test both.

Not what I asked is it?

Do you think or know if it is standard procedure to take blood and test of everyone who shoots at another person? It *IS* SOP to do panels on a corpse as part of an autopsy.

I really don't know. However, if you are going to release the tox report of the victim, then you should release the tox report of the shooter. Me thinks that old George got a lot of benefit of the doubt.

(07-30-2013 09:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  He was also carrying a drink and no cough syrup. Sure, he could've been going to make "lean" but didn't we just have a monumental circlejerk over facts vs. conjecture? Can't have it both ways.

What you, Smaug, Hambone, and RWT said...

(07-31-2013 01:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 01:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And I'm not sure of Florida law, but here in Michigan you're supposed to get ID'd when buying such medicine.

That is for pseudoephedrine. Dextromethorphan is sold without an id check. Sadly, these ghetto kids, influenced by idiots like Lil Wayne will change that.

Of course, Dextromethorphan is not used to make Lean, at least from the wikipedia description, the ingredient is cough syrup with Codeine (a controlled substance). (Which also makes the eye candy in this thread disingenuous because there is a key ingredient missing in all of this speculation). Dextromethorphan is subject to substance abuse by ingesting large amounts... the manufacturer has links on their website to organizations to ostensibly prevent abuse of OTC medicine. But, the allegation requires a prescription drug, not Robitussin DM, which has no codeine.

Not entirely true. I was in high school a hundred years ago, and knew guys then doing "Robo's". This is nothing new and it was the same OTC crap that's there now.

I've forgotten exactly what they would do, but I think it was chug a bottle of Robitussen, then shotgun two beers. They would be HAMMERED, and these guys were pretty hardcore partiers.

(07-31-2013 05:51 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 12:47 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 12:44 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 12:17 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 10:42 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  I love how we get toxicology reports on the guy who got shot but nothing from the shooter.

Show me that it's SOP to draw blood and do tox on every shooter.

If you want the entire story, then you test both.

How do you know Z wasn't tested?

The police said that they didn't feel like they needed to.

Fair enough. And why not? Could it it be he appeared coherent and lucid, and gave them no impression that he was in any way impaired?

(07-31-2013 06:14 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Not entirely true. I was in high school a hundred years ago, and knew guys then doing "Robo's". This is nothing new and it was the same OTC crap that's there now.

I've forgotten exactly what they would do, but I think it was chug a bottle of Robitussen, then shotgun two beers. They would be HAMMERED, and these guys were pretty hardcore partiers.

I'm not sure what you're saying is not entirely true. Robitussen + two beers has nothing to do with what Trayvon Martin /was carrying, nor does it have anything to do either with a controlled substance (codeine) or meth precursor that is tracked by the state (pseudoephedrine). I included a link about Dextromethorphan abuse, so I'm lost as to what you are challenging.

(07-31-2013 05:56 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 09:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  He was also carrying a drink and no cough syrup. Sure, he could've been going to make "lean" but didn't we just have a monumental circlejerk over facts vs. conjecture? Can't have it both ways.

What you, Smaug, Hambone, and RWT said...

(07-31-2013 01:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 01:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And I'm not sure of Florida law, but here in Michigan you're supposed to get ID'd when buying such medicine.

That is for pseudoephedrine. Dextromethorphan is sold without an id check. Sadly, these ghetto kids, influenced by idiots like Lil Wayne will change that.

Of course, Dextromethorphan is not used to make Lean, at least from the wikipedia description, the ingredient is cough syrup with Codeine (a controlled substance). (Which also makes the eye candy in this thread disingenuous because there is a key ingredient missing in all of this speculation). Dextromethorphan is subject to substance abuse by ingesting large amounts... the manufacturer has links on their website to organizations to ostensibly prevent abuse of OTC medicine. But, the allegation requires a prescription drug, not Robitussin DM, which has no codeine.

It is used when codeine cannot be obtained. .

(07-31-2013 06:22 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 06:14 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Not entirely true. I was in high school a hundred years ago, and knew guys then doing "Robo's". This is nothing new and it was the same OTC crap that's there now.

I've forgotten exactly what they would do, but I think it was chug a bottle of Robitussen, then shotgun two beers. They would be HAMMERED, and these guys were pretty hardcore partiers.

I'm not sure what you're saying is not entirely true. Robitussen + two beers has nothing to do with what Trayvon Martin /was carrying, nor does it have anything to do either with a controlled substance (codeine) or meth precursor that is tracked by the state (pseudoephedrine). I included a link about Dextromethorphan abuse, so I'm lost as to what you are challenging.

cause it weren't codeine then, an it ain' codeine now. that's all. kids were doing robo's 20+ years ago and they were plenty fuzzed. That's all.

If black kids were smart they would just order dried poppy pods and make tea. Way better than codeine in cough syrup IMO

(08-01-2013 12:27 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 06:22 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 06:14 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Not entirely true. I was in high school a hundred years ago, and knew guys then doing "Robo's". This is nothing new and it was the same OTC crap that's there now.

I've forgotten exactly what they would do, but I think it was chug a bottle of Robitussen, then shotgun two beers. They would be HAMMERED, and these guys were pretty hardcore partiers.

I'm not sure what you're saying is not entirely true. Robitussen + two beers has nothing to do with what Trayvon Martin /was carrying, nor does it have anything to do either with a controlled substance (codeine) or meth precursor that is tracked by the state (pseudoephedrine). I included a link about Dextromethorphan abuse, so I'm lost as to what you are challenging.

cause it weren't codeine then, an it ain' codeine now. that's all. kids were doing robo's 20+ years ago and they were plenty fuzzed. That's all.

And yet, it has nothing at all to do with what Trayvon Martin had in his possession that night...

edit: I guess I can see where you're getting at, but mentally, I just can't get over the difference between a small amount of narcotic and a large amount of hallucinogen are discussed in the same context.

(08-01-2013 07:34 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  If black kids were smart they would just order dried poppy pods and make tea. Way better than codeine in cough syrup IMO

Why the need to qualify this with a racial determination? If you think white (or hispanic) kids don't abuse things like this in great numbers to get a high, you're just plain delusional.

(07-31-2013 01:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Sadly, these ghetto kids, influenced by idiots like Lil Wayne will change that.

smaug Wrote:What a dumb thread

(08-01-2013 08:41 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Admittedly I stopped reading the original post because of the tasteless way you started it.

I barely know who [Lil Wayne] is, and don't really care what he has to say about much of anything.

(08-01-2013 10:26 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 01:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Sadly, these ghetto kids, influenced by idiots like Lil Wayne will change that.

smaug Wrote:What a dumb thread

(08-01-2013 08:41 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Admittedly I stopped reading the original post because of the tasteless way you started it.

I barely know who [Lil Wayne] is, and don't really care what he has to say about much of anything.

Rent free in your head. Really strange porn you've got here. The threesomes, I get. The bondage, I get. But what's with the midget?

(08-01-2013 09:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:34 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  If black kids were smart they would just order dried poppy pods and make tea. Way better than codeine in cough syrup IMO

Why the need to qualify this with a racial determination? If you think white (or hispanic) kids don't abuse things like this in great numbers to get a high, you're just plain delusional.

Indeed. My cousin died from abusing prescription drugs (that he was not prescribed), and he was lilly white and on the fast track to law school and/or a career in politics - his folks were well connected and he had a very prestigious scholarship lined up.

The overt racism that has cropped up here is nauseating.

(08-01-2013 09:27 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2013 07:34 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  If black kids were smart they would just order dried poppy pods and make tea. Way better than codeine in cough syrup IMO

Why the need to qualify this with a racial determination? If you think white (or hispanic) kids don't abuse things like this in great numbers to get a high, you're just plain delusional.

Well I am referring to sizzyrup(grape soda/codiene cough syrup)or whatever it is called. Something primarily consumed by african americans and the occasional wegroe. I know all kinds I white people that abuse drugs.

This entire thread is sad.