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(06-21-2013 04:47 AM)JMUDDOG Wrote:  Can anything be made out of these events?

- Duke club reaches record may
- New Video System for Football
- Madizone Free Coverage

One of my first thoughts about the record May was: is it possible that corporate donations went up because some inside information was shared with those donors? I don't even know if corporate sponsorships are counted in the record number but it was just an initial thought I had.

To me, I thought the new basketball court design was something that more would be made out of too.
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UMass has also gotten $5 million in donations this month.

However, I think the $200K for video equipment is overblown. Thats really not that much spent on decent video equipment for the football team. A decent HD camera is like $25K and Im sure Madizone has a couple of those.

Check out Middle Tennessee's multi-million 40' production truck
http://www.mtsu.edu/emc/tour/truck_emc.php
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(06-21-2013 08:35 AM)lingerba Wrote:  To me, I thought the new basketball court design was something that more would be made out of too.

I did too, but I think that may be because it wasn't so much a contest, as it was more of a brainstorming from fans and to see what fans would like to see the new court design to be like.
My guess is that the court we have will not be one individual design, but a mixture of things that people said they liked.
I love to blame lack of PR for things, but I don't think it would be really fair in this case.
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RE: Carr Report Day!
(06-21-2013 08:46 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  UMass has also gotten $5 million in donations this month.

However, I think the $200K for video equipment is overblown. Thats really not that much spent on decent video equipment for the football team. A decent HD camera is like $25K and Im sure Madizone has a couple of those.

Check out Middle Tennessee's multi-million 40' production truck
http://www.mtsu.edu/emc/tour/truck_emc.php

Did UMass really get 5 million or was it the 500,000 that we got?
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(06-21-2013 09:07 AM)olddawg Wrote:  Did UMass really get 5 million or was it the 500,000 that we got?

June 6, 2013
A major gift by UMass alumnus Ed Ward will help ensure the future growth and success of UMass Athletics. Ward, a long-time and staunch supporter of the University, has made a $2.25 million commitment to the Athletics Department.
http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

June 10, 2013
Martin (Marty) Jacobson committed $2.5 million to the University on Monday afternoon in a ceremony featuring UMass Chancellor Kumble R. Subbaswamy, Athletics Director John McCutcheon, and Head Football Coach Charley Molnar.

"I enjoyed my time at the University and the fact that we are now able to play FBS football each Saturday is something that is very exciting.......... "We are going through our sesquicentennial year and we are continuing to build up our football program at the FBS level."

http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

I think UMass has raised $7 million this year, but interestingly, $4.75 million came in mid-June after rumors of UMass decision-time regarding the MAC and FBS. As indicated above, a good portion of that seems to be because they are happy that UMass is growing their football program in FBS. BTW, this donation to football was after the rumor that the MAC was giving UMass a decision to make regarding all-in or all-out. You don't donate that kind of money without asking some questions first.

Basketball is no longer the priority sport at UMass. Football is on equal grounds and growing. The A-10 will no longer fit their needs in the future as they don't sponsor football which is now a priority.
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(06-21-2013 10:26 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(06-21-2013 09:07 AM)olddawg Wrote:  Did UMass really get 5 million or was it the 500,000 that we got?

June 6, 2013
A major gift by UMass alumnus Ed Ward will help ensure the future growth and success of UMass Athletics. Ward, a long-time and staunch supporter of the University, has made a $2.25 million commitment to the Athletics Department.
http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

June 10, 2013
Martin (Marty) Jacobson committed $2.5 million to the University on Monday afternoon in a ceremony featuring UMass Chancellor Kumble R. Subbaswamy, Athletics Director John McCutcheon, and Head Football Coach Charley Molnar.

"I enjoyed my time at the University and the fact that we are now able to play FBS football each Saturday is something that is very exciting.

http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

I think UMass has raised $7 million this year, but interestingly, $4.5 million came in mid-June. As indicated above, a good portion of that seems to be because they are happy that UMass is growing their football program in FBS.

Very impressed. Any other MAC schools get athletic donations like that? I have no idea if we ( or UMass ) separate athletic donations in general from Duke Club/ Minuteman Club donations. In either case, it'll definitely help their program.
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The days of UMass staying in the A-10 are numbered... Just like Charlotte, just like Temple.
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Interesting article about transition benefits and drawbacks to reclassifying from FCS to FBS. Nothing too different than what has been discussed on the boards for the last year, but something worth reading.

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_...e-for-most

A couple of key quotes:
"Go ask someone 100 miles from Statesboro how many national championships we (GA Southern) won at the FCS level," he said. "No one knows." Kleinlein (GA Southern AD) pointed out that the lowest-rated bowl games still routinely garner higher ratings than the FCS national championship game.

"For me, at the end of the day, it's the exposure for our university and growing our university," said Kleinlein, referencing the increased opportunities to play other FBS schools and garner more television coverage. Kleinlein said it's also not a decision rooted solely in football.
"For us, we're pretty good in some of our other sports. These other sports are constantly having to fight the battle of whether they're a Division I school because of the labeling and association of FBS football."

"There's also the future to consider amid the growing discussion around the power conferences forming a new subdivision one day, Kleinlein said.
"When I looked at what was going on, my concern became: Eventually, if the big split happens, are we now at the third level as opposed to the second level?
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"Jeff Schemmel, a former athletic director and currently managing director of the college division at JMI Sports, thinks with the playoff on the horizon, now is the time to make the move up, because every conference in FBS will be making more money. "
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sounds like a Carr type entity though substantially more content and key individuals listed...http://www.jmisports.com/college/
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(06-21-2013 10:26 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  June 6, 2013
A major gift by UMass alumnus Ed Ward will help ensure the future growth and success of UMass Athletics. Ward, a long-time and staunch supporter of the University, has made a $2.25 million commitment to the Athletics Department.
http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

June 10, 2013
Martin (Marty) Jacobson committed $2.5 million to the University on Monday afternoon in a ceremony featuring UMass Chancellor Kumble R. Subbaswamy, Athletics Director John McCutcheon, and Head Football Coach Charley Molnar.

"I enjoyed my time at the University and the fact that we are now able to play FBS football each Saturday is something that is very exciting.......... "We are going through our sesquicentennial year and we are continuing to build up our football program at the FBS level."

http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

I think UMass has raised $7 million this year, but interestingly, $4.75 million came in mid-June after rumors of UMass decision-time regarding the MAC and FBS. As indicated above, a good portion of that seems to be because they are happy that UMass is growing their football program in FBS. BTW, this donation to football was after the rumor that the MAC was giving UMass a decision to make regarding all-in or all-out. You don't donate that kind of money without asking some questions first.

Basketball is no longer the priority sport at UMass. Football is on equal grounds and growing. The A-10 will no longer fit their needs in the future as they don't sponsor football which is now a priority.

It wasn't really explicitly stated that all the money is coming in at once. They used the word 'committed', which makes me think these donations might be spread out over a number of years. Still, that's a lot of coin.
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(06-22-2013 05:05 PM)DooX Wrote:  It wasn't really explicitly stated that all the money is coming in at once. They used the word 'committed', which makes me think these donations might be spread out over a number of years. Still, that's a lot of coin.

Thinking the same thing, who knows, could be spread over 10 years.
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(06-21-2013 10:26 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(06-21-2013 09:07 AM)olddawg Wrote:  Did UMass really get 5 million or was it the 500,000 that we got?

June 6, 2013
A major gift by UMass alumnus Ed Ward will help ensure the future growth and success of UMass Athletics. Ward, a long-time and staunch supporter of the University, has made a $2.25 million commitment to the Athletics Department.
http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

June 10, 2013
Martin (Marty) Jacobson committed $2.5 million to the University on Monday afternoon in a ceremony featuring UMass Chancellor Kumble R. Subbaswamy, Athletics Director John McCutcheon, and Head Football Coach Charley Molnar.

"I enjoyed my time at the University and the fact that we are now able to play FBS football each Saturday is something that is very exciting.......... "We are going through our sesquicentennial year and we are continuing to build up our football program at the FBS level."

http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

I think UMass has raised $7 million this year, but interestingly, $4.75 million came in mid-June after rumors of UMass decision-time regarding the MAC and FBS. As indicated above, a good portion of that seems to be because they are happy that UMass is growing their football program in FBS. BTW, this donation to football was after the rumor that the MAC was giving UMass a decision to make regarding all-in or all-out. You don't donate that kind of money without asking some questions first.

Basketball is no longer the priority sport at UMass. Football is on equal grounds and growing. The A-10 will no longer fit their needs in the future as they don't sponsor football which is now a priority.

If we want to play FBS, we need to raise this kind of money from our donors. We have some people that can do $2-3M endowments over a period of time. We need a $25M endowment during the upcoming fund raising period. The $25M will give us $1,000,000 a year in additional scholarships. The quiet period for the 2014 fund raising campaign begins 7/1/13. The actual campaign begins 7/1/14 and ends in 2021.
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(06-23-2013 07:20 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  
(06-21-2013 10:26 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(06-21-2013 09:07 AM)olddawg Wrote:  Did UMass really get 5 million or was it the 500,000 that we got?

June 6, 2013
A major gift by UMass alumnus Ed Ward will help ensure the future growth and success of UMass Athletics. Ward, a long-time and staunch supporter of the University, has made a $2.25 million commitment to the Athletics Department.
http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

June 10, 2013
Martin (Marty) Jacobson committed $2.5 million to the University on Monday afternoon in a ceremony featuring UMass Chancellor Kumble R. Subbaswamy, Athletics Director John McCutcheon, and Head Football Coach Charley Molnar.

"I enjoyed my time at the University and the fact that we are now able to play FBS football each Saturday is something that is very exciting.......... "We are going through our sesquicentennial year and we are continuing to build up our football program at the FBS level."

http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

I think UMass has raised $7 million this year, but interestingly, $4.75 million came in mid-June after rumors of UMass decision-time regarding the MAC and FBS. As indicated above, a good portion of that seems to be because they are happy that UMass is growing their football program in FBS. BTW, this donation to football was after the rumor that the MAC was giving UMass a decision to make regarding all-in or all-out. You don't donate that kind of money without asking some questions first.

Basketball is no longer the priority sport at UMass. Football is on equal grounds and growing. The A-10 will no longer fit their needs in the future as they don't sponsor football which is now a priority.

If we want to play FBS, we need to raise this kind of money from our donors. We have some people that can do $2-3M endowments over a period of time. We need a $25M endowment during the upcoming fund raising period. The $25M will give us $1,000,000 a year in additional scholarships. The quiet period for the 2014 fund raising campaign begins 7/1/13. The actual campaign begins 7/1/14 and ends in 2021.

What the fans need to know is the direction JMU is going. It's hard for fans to give money when we have no idea what direction the admin wants to take us and their willingness to move up. JMU should have been the first to jump out of the CAA, now we are left holding the bag. I'm willing to bet that IF JMU moves up, donations would increase significantly.
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(06-24-2013 09:50 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  
(06-23-2013 07:20 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  
(06-21-2013 10:26 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(06-21-2013 09:07 AM)olddawg Wrote:  Did UMass really get 5 million or was it the 500,000 that we got?

June 6, 2013
A major gift by UMass alumnus Ed Ward will help ensure the future growth and success of UMass Athletics. Ward, a long-time and staunch supporter of the University, has made a $2.25 million commitment to the Athletics Department.
http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

June 10, 2013
Martin (Marty) Jacobson committed $2.5 million to the University on Monday afternoon in a ceremony featuring UMass Chancellor Kumble R. Subbaswamy, Athletics Director John McCutcheon, and Head Football Coach Charley Molnar.

"I enjoyed my time at the University and the fact that we are now able to play FBS football each Saturday is something that is very exciting.......... "We are going through our sesquicentennial year and we are continuing to build up our football program at the FBS level."

http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

I think UMass has raised $7 million this year, but interestingly, $4.75 million came in mid-June after rumors of UMass decision-time regarding the MAC and FBS. As indicated above, a good portion of that seems to be because they are happy that UMass is growing their football program in FBS. BTW, this donation to football was after the rumor that the MAC was giving UMass a decision to make regarding all-in or all-out. You don't donate that kind of money without asking some questions first.

Basketball is no longer the priority sport at UMass. Football is on equal grounds and growing. The A-10 will no longer fit their needs in the future as they don't sponsor football which is now a priority.

If we want to play FBS, we need to raise this kind of money from our donors. We have some people that can do $2-3M endowments over a period of time. We need a $25M endowment during the upcoming fund raising period. The $25M will give us $1,000,000 a year in additional scholarships. The quiet period for the 2014 fund raising campaign begins 7/1/13. The actual campaign begins 7/1/14 and ends in 2021.

What the fans need to know is the direction JMU is going. It's hard for fans to give money when we have no idea what direction the admin wants to take us and their willingness to move up. JMU should have been the first to jump out of the CAA, now we are left holding the bag. I'm willing to bet that IF JMU moves up, donations would increase significantly.

JMU is currently holding a bag and donations were at an all time high to the Duke Club in May. The vast majority of alums have NO idea what's going on with conference realignment.
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(06-24-2013 10:09 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 09:50 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  
(06-23-2013 07:20 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  
(06-21-2013 10:26 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(06-21-2013 09:07 AM)olddawg Wrote:  Did UMass really get 5 million or was it the 500,000 that we got?

June 6, 2013
A major gift by UMass alumnus Ed Ward will help ensure the future growth and success of UMass Athletics. Ward, a long-time and staunch supporter of the University, has made a $2.25 million commitment to the Athletics Department.
http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

June 10, 2013
Martin (Marty) Jacobson committed $2.5 million to the University on Monday afternoon in a ceremony featuring UMass Chancellor Kumble R. Subbaswamy, Athletics Director John McCutcheon, and Head Football Coach Charley Molnar.

"I enjoyed my time at the University and the fact that we are now able to play FBS football each Saturday is something that is very exciting.......... "We are going through our sesquicentennial year and we are continuing to build up our football program at the FBS level."

http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

I think UMass has raised $7 million this year, but interestingly, $4.75 million came in mid-June after rumors of UMass decision-time regarding the MAC and FBS. As indicated above, a good portion of that seems to be because they are happy that UMass is growing their football program in FBS. BTW, this donation to football was after the rumor that the MAC was giving UMass a decision to make regarding all-in or all-out. You don't donate that kind of money without asking some questions first.

Basketball is no longer the priority sport at UMass. Football is on equal grounds and growing. The A-10 will no longer fit their needs in the future as they don't sponsor football which is now a priority.

If we want to play FBS, we need to raise this kind of money from our donors. We have some people that can do $2-3M endowments over a period of time. We need a $25M endowment during the upcoming fund raising period. The $25M will give us $1,000,000 a year in additional scholarships. The quiet period for the 2014 fund raising campaign begins 7/1/13. The actual campaign begins 7/1/14 and ends in 2021.

What the fans need to know is the direction JMU is going. It's hard for fans to give money when we have no idea what direction the admin wants to take us and their willingness to move up. JMU should have been the first to jump out of the CAA, now we are left holding the bag. I'm willing to bet that IF JMU moves up, donations would increase significantly.

JMU is currently holding a bag and donations were at an all time high to the Duke Club in May. The vast majority of alums have NO idea what's going on with conference realignment.

The amount of money JMU is getting from the Duke Club is still less than standard and breaking this month's record will most likely be used by the FCS'rs to not move up. How much money has JMU left on the table by not moving sooner? This discussion has been talked about ad nauseam. JMU SHOULD have moved years ago, our transition period SHOULD be done.
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(06-24-2013 10:24 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 10:09 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 09:50 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  
(06-23-2013 07:20 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  
(06-21-2013 10:26 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  June 6, 2013
A major gift by UMass alumnus Ed Ward will help ensure the future growth and success of UMass Athletics. Ward, a long-time and staunch supporter of the University, has made a $2.25 million commitment to the Athletics Department.
http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

June 10, 2013
Martin (Marty) Jacobson committed $2.5 million to the University on Monday afternoon in a ceremony featuring UMass Chancellor Kumble R. Subbaswamy, Athletics Director John McCutcheon, and Head Football Coach Charley Molnar.

"I enjoyed my time at the University and the fact that we are now able to play FBS football each Saturday is something that is very exciting.......... "We are going through our sesquicentennial year and we are continuing to build up our football program at the FBS level."

http://www.umassathletics.com/sports/m-f...13aaa.html

I think UMass has raised $7 million this year, but interestingly, $4.75 million came in mid-June after rumors of UMass decision-time regarding the MAC and FBS. As indicated above, a good portion of that seems to be because they are happy that UMass is growing their football program in FBS. BTW, this donation to football was after the rumor that the MAC was giving UMass a decision to make regarding all-in or all-out. You don't donate that kind of money without asking some questions first.

Basketball is no longer the priority sport at UMass. Football is on equal grounds and growing. The A-10 will no longer fit their needs in the future as they don't sponsor football which is now a priority.

If we want to play FBS, we need to raise this kind of money from our donors. We have some people that can do $2-3M endowments over a period of time. We need a $25M endowment during the upcoming fund raising period. The $25M will give us $1,000,000 a year in additional scholarships. The quiet period for the 2014 fund raising campaign begins 7/1/13. The actual campaign begins 7/1/14 and ends in 2021.

What the fans need to know is the direction JMU is going. It's hard for fans to give money when we have no idea what direction the admin wants to take us and their willingness to move up. JMU should have been the first to jump out of the CAA, now we are left holding the bag. I'm willing to bet that IF JMU moves up, donations would increase significantly.

JMU is currently holding a bag and donations were at an all time high to the Duke Club in May. The vast majority of alums have NO idea what's going on with conference realignment.

The amount of money JMU is getting from the Duke Club is still less than standard and breaking this month's record will most likely be used by the FCS'rs to not move up. How much money has JMU left on the table by not moving sooner? This discussion has been talked about ad nauseam. JMU SHOULD have moved years ago, our transition period SHOULD be done.

I agree that big picture JMU should move to the FBS, but I don't know how much money has been left on the table by not in the last year or two. Expenses will go up dramatically and it's possible donations rise to wash out the cost, but I have my doubts that FBS would be profitable short or even intermediate term.

There seems to be such a disconnect between people who enjoyed their time at JMU (near 100% of my friends and acquaintances) and those who have/will donate to help keep the athletic department afloat in FBS. I've been laughed at before by friends when I told them that I have donated to JMU and reccomended that they do as well.
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(06-24-2013 10:43 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 10:24 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 10:09 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 09:50 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  
(06-23-2013 07:20 PM)HotHamandCheese84 Wrote:  If we want to play FBS, we need to raise this kind of money from our donors. We have some people that can do $2-3M endowments over a period of time. We need a $25M endowment during the upcoming fund raising period. The $25M will give us $1,000,000 a year in additional scholarships. The quiet period for the 2014 fund raising campaign begins 7/1/13. The actual campaign begins 7/1/14 and ends in 2021.

What the fans need to know is the direction JMU is going. It's hard for fans to give money when we have no idea what direction the admin wants to take us and their willingness to move up. JMU should have been the first to jump out of the CAA, now we are left holding the bag. I'm willing to bet that IF JMU moves up, donations would increase significantly.

JMU is currently holding a bag and donations were at an all time high to the Duke Club in May. The vast majority of alums have NO idea what's going on with conference realignment.

The amount of money JMU is getting from the Duke Club is still less than standard and breaking this month's record will most likely be used by the FCS'rs to not move up. How much money has JMU left on the table by not moving sooner? This discussion has been talked about ad nauseam. JMU SHOULD have moved years ago, our transition period SHOULD be done.

I agree that big picture JMU should move to the FBS, but I don't know how much money has been left on the table by not in the last year or two. Expenses will go up dramatically and it's possible donations rise to wash out the cost, but I have my doubts that FBS would be profitable short or even intermediate term.

There seems to be such a disconnect between people who enjoyed their time at JMU (near 100% of my friends and acquaintances) and those who have/will donate to help keep the athletic department afloat in FBS. I've been laughed at before by friends when I told them that I have donated to JMU and reccomended that they do as well.

As have I. I've donated mostly to the academic side moreso than the Athletic. However, while watching games with former alums, many ask why JMU hasn't moved up. An issue was brought up to the Duke Club Associate Director at our last meeting that many of the current alums do not donate because they don't care about being FCS, "It's small time" he said.. When asked if he'd donate more if JMU moved up, his answer was yes with many others agreeing with him. That's the current JMU alum mindset and that will change IF JMU moves up like they should have done years ago.
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RE: Carr Report Day!
(06-24-2013 11:00 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 10:43 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 10:24 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 10:09 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 09:50 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  What the fans need to know is the direction JMU is going. It's hard for fans to give money when we have no idea what direction the admin wants to take us and their willingness to move up. JMU should have been the first to jump out of the CAA, now we are left holding the bag. I'm willing to bet that IF JMU moves up, donations would increase significantly.

JMU is currently holding a bag and donations were at an all time high to the Duke Club in May. The vast majority of alums have NO idea what's going on with conference realignment.

The amount of money JMU is getting from the Duke Club is still less than standard and breaking this month's record will most likely be used by the FCS'rs to not move up. How much money has JMU left on the table by not moving sooner? This discussion has been talked about ad nauseam. JMU SHOULD have moved years ago, our transition period SHOULD be done.

I agree that big picture JMU should move to the FBS, but I don't know how much money has been left on the table by not in the last year or two. Expenses will go up dramatically and it's possible donations rise to wash out the cost, but I have my doubts that FBS would be profitable short or even intermediate term.

There seems to be such a disconnect between people who enjoyed their time at JMU (near 100% of my friends and acquaintances) and those who have/will donate to help keep the athletic department afloat in FBS. I've been laughed at before by friends when I told them that I have donated to JMU and reccomended that they do as well.

As have I. I've donated mostly to the academic side moreso than the Athletic. However, while watching games with former alums, many ask why JMU hasn't moved up. An issue was brought up to the Duke Club Associate Director at our last meeting that many of the current alums do not donate because they don't care about being FCS, "It's small time" he said.. When asked if he'd donate more if JMU moved up, his answer was yes with many others agreeing with him. That's the current JMU alum mindset and that will change IF JMU moves up like they should have done years ago.

Typical chicken/egg scenario. That's why some people feel that JMU should publicly state its position on its intention to move up. I don't know what's best at this point. I definitely don't care about pissing off anyone in the CAA.
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RE: Carr Report Day!
(06-24-2013 07:12 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 11:00 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 10:43 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 10:24 AM)HolyCityDuke Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 10:09 AM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  JMU is currently holding a bag and donations were at an all time high to the Duke Club in May. The vast majority of alums have NO idea what's going on with conference realignment.

The amount of money JMU is getting from the Duke Club is still less than standard and breaking this month's record will most likely be used by the FCS'rs to not move up. How much money has JMU left on the table by not moving sooner? This discussion has been talked about ad nauseam. JMU SHOULD have moved years ago, our transition period SHOULD be done.

I agree that big picture JMU should move to the FBS, but I don't know how much money has been left on the table by not in the last year or two. Expenses will go up dramatically and it's possible donations rise to wash out the cost, but I have my doubts that FBS would be profitable short or even intermediate term.

There seems to be such a disconnect between people who enjoyed their time at JMU (near 100% of my friends and acquaintances) and those who have/will donate to help keep the athletic department afloat in FBS. I've been laughed at before by friends when I told them that I have donated to JMU and reccomended that they do as well.

As have I. I've donated mostly to the academic side moreso than the Athletic. However, while watching games with former alums, many ask why JMU hasn't moved up. An issue was brought up to the Duke Club Associate Director at our last meeting that many of the current alums do not donate because they don't care about being FCS, "It's small time" he said.. When asked if he'd donate more if JMU moved up, his answer was yes with many others agreeing with him. That's the current JMU alum mindset and that will change IF JMU moves up like they should have done years ago.

Typical chicken/egg scenario. That's why some people feel that JMU should publicly state its position on its intention to move up. I don't know what's best at this point. I definitely don't care about pissing off anyone in the CAA.

I understand it's a moot point at this stage, but, JMU put this on themselves. To not believe ODU, Appy, UMass, and Georgia Southern weren't going FBS was asinine. I understand things are happening at JMU behind close doors, however, my questions are to what extent? What is their motif and their goal? Also, is their goal achievable? It's hard to judge what this admin wants to do... and that's not a good thing.
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