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Both should be built. It hurt Birmingham when Super Six left and now SWAC titłe game. Bowl game is good for city as well. Money spent at those events benefit UAB because we are locked at the hip with Birmingham. I personally wish we would make it official, drop UAB and become Birmingham U. The MPF could serve as a useful stop gap for UAB football. Closer to campus, safer area, hot water would work. Ill take it if we can't have OCS for several more years. We could generate more revenue. I fully believe the argument Blazr made about Mackin and the need for a full time tenant to start. Once we play a few successful seasons and build an OCS the dome would already be established in other areas. The best scenario long term is as Attalla and Vines stated and that's to build both. Memphis Blazer is also right. The OCS is dead in the water right now. In my opinion that will not change without on field success and I believe the MPF can help us accomplish that.

(06-07-2013 02:46 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 01:33 PM)backyardblazer Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 09:36 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  It would be nice to see 22,000 at Legion Field again.

Maybe if they get "American Idol" Rueben Studdard to sing at half, there would be 22,000 at Legion Field (again). Since he's not doing much these days, maybe he could drop by on every home game.

Yeah, and if we get a couple of wins early we'll have 22k this season.

With friends like you, who needs enemas?

As has been said so many times before, winning consistently is the one marketing strategy UAB has never been able to put into practice. I and many others feel it will cure many of the program's ills. I would like to have Reuben sing at any of our home games - he is after all a staunch Blazer fan and is from its city (he played FB @ Huffman HS, and his aunt Carolyn was a coach of women's sports at WEHS).

Even though it was ridiculed, and for some reason, looked back on with shame by Blazer fans, the decision to do the Studdard concert was a great marketing idea. American Idol fever was at its peak in Birmingham because of Studdard. Tying him to UAB football was a great idea. The problem was with the attendees who didn't care a bit about UAB football and left when the concert was over. This is no different than having a bunch of kids do their little jump rope routine at the halftime of a basketball game and all the parents leaving after the halftime performance.

The only thing UAB did wrong was not putting the Studdard concert off until the end of the game and making the ones who only wanted to see him stay to the end of the game.

Otherwise, it was the most successful marketing project in the history of the program.

I was there and all though some left there was a solid crowd at the end of the game. Still bigger than our average back then.

Only time I ever parked in somebody's yard for a UAB game.

(06-07-2013 05:22 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Even though it was ridiculed, and for some reason, looked back on with shame by Blazer fans, the decision to do the Studdard concert was a great marketing idea. American Idol fever was at its peak in Birmingham because of Studdard. Tying him to UAB football was a great idea. The problem was with the attendees who didn't care a bit about UAB football and left when the concert was over. This is no different than having a bunch of kids do their little jump rope routine at the halftime of a basketball game and all the parents leaving after the halftime performance.

The only thing UAB did wrong was not putting the Studdard concert off until the end of the game and making the ones who only wanted to see him stay to the end of the game.

Otherwise, it was the most successful marketing project in the history of the program.

The only part of the marketing strategy that failed was that UAB lost the game that night. We had about 44,000 potential fans in the stands and couldn't finish the job.

No. One loss didn't change anything. The failure, if there was one is that UAB and UAB fans let the detractors define whether the night was a success. Instead of "44,000 people came to see a concert and a UAB football game", it became defined as "UAB has to get Reuben to sing in order to get a decent crowd."

(06-08-2013 01:52 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 05:22 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Even though it was ridiculed, and for some reason, looked back on with shame by Blazer fans, the decision to do the Studdard concert was a great marketing idea. American Idol fever was at its peak in Birmingham because of Studdard. Tying him to UAB football was a great idea. The problem was with the attendees who didn't care a bit about UAB football and left when the concert was over. This is no different than having a bunch of kids do their little jump rope routine at the halftime of a basketball game and all the parents leaving after the halftime performance.

The only thing UAB did wrong was not putting the Studdard concert off until the end of the game and making the ones who only wanted to see him stay to the end of the game.

Otherwise, it was the most successful marketing project in the history of the program.

The only part of the marketing strategy that failed was that UAB lost the game that night. We had about 44,000 potential fans in the stands and couldn't finish the job.

the park board and city failed. traffic control was a joke. no soap or toilet paper in the bathrooms. I would bring my own soap and tp to the games but if I was not a fan I wouldn't go back

(06-08-2013 09:52 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(06-08-2013 01:52 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 05:22 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Even though it was ridiculed, and for some reason, looked back on with shame by Blazer fans, the decision to do the Studdard concert was a great marketing idea. American Idol fever was at its peak in Birmingham because of Studdard. Tying him to UAB football was a great idea. The problem was with the attendees who didn't care a bit about UAB football and left when the concert was over. This is no different than having a bunch of kids do their little jump rope routine at the halftime of a basketball game and all the parents leaving after the halftime performance.

The only thing UAB did wrong was not putting the Studdard concert off until the end of the game and making the ones who only wanted to see him stay to the end of the game.

Otherwise, it was the most successful marketing project in the history of the program.

The only part of the marketing strategy that failed was that UAB lost the game that night. We had about 44,000 potential fans in the stands and couldn't finish the job.

the park board and city failed. traffic control was a joke. no soap or toilet paper in the bathrooms. I would bring my own soap and tp to the games but if I was not a fan I wouldn't go back

The city failed to correctly anticipate that Reuben would make a difference in the size of the crowd so the usual minimal police presence was completely overwhelmed by the crowd, much of which tried to get there in the last 30 minutes before kickoff. EX: I don't recall ANY police control of the Arkadelphia Exit in that 30 minute period. 44,000 was the number who persevered the traffic mess to go to the game. No telling how many gave up and turned away. The same problem occurred with the recent bowl game when the Ole Miss crowd "surprised" the city's planners. Traffic control, shuttle busses, concessions and, yes, bathroom supplies are not things that can be done on a last minute basis.

(06-09-2013 06:28 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-08-2013 09:52 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(06-08-2013 01:52 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 05:22 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Even though it was ridiculed, and for some reason, looked back on with shame by Blazer fans, the decision to do the Studdard concert was a great marketing idea. American Idol fever was at its peak in Birmingham because of Studdard. Tying him to UAB football was a great idea. The problem was with the attendees who didn't care a bit about UAB football and left when the concert was over. This is no different than having a bunch of kids do their little jump rope routine at the halftime of a basketball game and all the parents leaving after the halftime performance.

The only thing UAB did wrong was not putting the Studdard concert off until the end of the game and making the ones who only wanted to see him stay to the end of the game.

Otherwise, it was the most successful marketing project in the history of the program.

The only part of the marketing strategy that failed was that UAB lost the game that night. We had about 44,000 potential fans in the stands and couldn't finish the job.

the park board and city failed. traffic control was a joke. no soap or toilet paper in the bathrooms. I would bring my own soap and tp to the games but if I was not a fan I wouldn't go back

The city failed to correctly anticipate that Reuben would make a difference in the size of the crowd so the usual minimal police presence was completely overwhelmed by the crowd, much of which tried to get there in the last 30 minutes before kickoff. EX: I don't recall ANY police control of the Arkadelphia Exit in that 30 minute period. 44,000 was the number who persevered the traffic mess to go to the game. No telling how many gave up and turned away. The same problem occurred with the recent bowl game when the Ole Miss crowd "surprised" the city's planners. Traffic control, shuttle busses, concessions and, yes, bathroom supplies are not things that can be done on a last minute basis.

There have been several instances where the folks in charge "underestimated" the crowd and caused major traffic issues and concessions problems at Legion Field. It seems that this thing happens a little too often.

(06-07-2013 02:30 PM)backyardblazer Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 02:01 PM)BlazerFromMD Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 11:11 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

Quote:"It wouldn't make sense to do both in my opinion," Hallman said. "My selling point to UAB, which I have recently made and consistently make, you get a brand-new state-of-the-art facility (in a dome). Sure, it's not ideal in that it's not on campus ... It's better than having to build it and pay for it. They would just pay rent on that day but not have to pay the expense of building it.

"We'd build it with them in mind for offices and other things. and then let the program grow. Let it flourish. If at some point you need to go on campus, then do it, but in the interim, we've upgraded our facilities for sporting events and conventions and trade shows ... which we simply don't have enough space for right now."

Gene Hallman needs to kiss the fattest part of my ass.

I was thinking more like the deepest.

Having worked with Genie, um I mean Gene, I wouldn't want him anywhere near my rear end.

Is that how you got the name "backyard blazer?"

(06-09-2013 07:10 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  There have been several instances where the folks in charge "underestimated" the crowd and caused major traffic issues and concessions problems at Legion Field. It seems that this thing happens a little too often.

Underestimation is one thing. Sticking your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes, and chanting "lalalala I can't hear you" when multiple sources tell you exactly what is going to happen is quite another.

They just need to do both. Our next project will be a football building / facility (IMHO) and we still have to put butts in seats and keep building our boosters. The OCS will come. I can see us playing a couple years in it (MPF) while we build our stadium. Then once we have our OCS it will help in getting some bigger name teams to town. We would be more attractive for a two for one from a high major at that point. I can also see them being build simultaneously and we never have to play in it unless we make the local bowl or we get say a Oklahoma State or someone like that for a two for one. Either way we will all be better off in the long run. They are not tied together other than in Hallman's mind.

(06-09-2013 06:28 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-08-2013 09:52 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(06-08-2013 01:52 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 05:22 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Even though it was ridiculed, and for some reason, looked back on with shame by Blazer fans, the decision to do the Studdard concert was a great marketing idea. American Idol fever was at its peak in Birmingham because of Studdard. Tying him to UAB football was a great idea. The problem was with the attendees who didn't care a bit about UAB football and left when the concert was over. This is no different than having a bunch of kids do their little jump rope routine at the halftime of a basketball game and all the parents leaving after the halftime performance.

The only thing UAB did wrong was not putting the Studdard concert off until the end of the game and making the ones who only wanted to see him stay to the end of the game.

Otherwise, it was the most successful marketing project in the history of the program.

The only part of the marketing strategy that failed was that UAB lost the game that night. We had about 44,000 potential fans in the stands and couldn't finish the job.

the park board and city failed. traffic control was a joke. no soap or toilet paper in the bathrooms. I would bring my own soap and tp to the games but if I was not a fan I wouldn't go back

The city failed to correctly anticipate that Reuben would make a difference in the size of the crowd so the usual minimal police presence was completely overwhelmed by the crowd, much of which tried to get there in the last 30 minutes before kickoff. EX: I don't recall ANY police control of the Arkadelphia Exit in that 30 minute period. 44,000 was the number who persevered the traffic mess to go to the game. No telling how many gave up and turned away. The same problem occurred with the recent bowl game when the Ole Miss crowd "surprised" the city's planners. Traffic control, shuttle busses, concessions and, yes, bathroom supplies are not things that can be done on a last minute basis.

For years the park boards supply plan was only stock the bathrooms for non uab events and we got to use what was left. Often that ment we had no supply. I still bring out of habit but it has gotten better

(06-10-2013 09:08 AM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(06-09-2013 06:28 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-08-2013 09:52 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(06-08-2013 01:52 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 05:22 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Even though it was ridiculed, and for some reason, looked back on with shame by Blazer fans, the decision to do the Studdard concert was a great marketing idea. American Idol fever was at its peak in Birmingham because of Studdard. Tying him to UAB football was a great idea. The problem was with the attendees who didn't care a bit about UAB football and left when the concert was over. This is no different than having a bunch of kids do their little jump rope routine at the halftime of a basketball game and all the parents leaving after the halftime performance.

The only thing UAB did wrong was not putting the Studdard concert off until the end of the game and making the ones who only wanted to see him stay to the end of the game.

Otherwise, it was the most successful marketing project in the history of the program.

The only part of the marketing strategy that failed was that UAB lost the game that night. We had about 44,000 potential fans in the stands and couldn't finish the job.

the park board and city failed. traffic control was a joke. no soap or toilet paper in the bathrooms. I would bring my own soap and tp to the games but if I was not a fan I wouldn't go back

The city failed to correctly anticipate that Reuben would make a difference in the size of the crowd so the usual minimal police presence was completely overwhelmed by the crowd, much of which tried to get there in the last 30 minutes before kickoff. EX: I don't recall ANY police control of the Arkadelphia Exit in that 30 minute period. 44,000 was the number who persevered the traffic mess to go to the game. No telling how many gave up and turned away. The same problem occurred with the recent bowl game when the Ole Miss crowd "surprised" the city's planners. Traffic control, shuttle busses, concessions and, yes, bathroom supplies are not things that can be done on a last minute basis.

For years the park boards supply plan was only stock the bathrooms for non uab events and we got to use what was left. Often that ment we had no supply. I still bring out of habit but it has gotten better

Really? Real talk, now...You have actually had to bring your own bathroom tissue toilet paper to that place for a football game because they're not stocking any in the bathrooms? Really???!!! Seriously!!! (in my McEnroe voice) You cannot be serious!!!This is not a humorous exaggeration synonymous at times with our Blazertalk brethren, is it? That damn Park Board ought to be ashamed of themselves if that's true, man. I wish someone would turn "Mad Stan" loose on that place!!! For those of you who watched and enjoyed "Batman Beyond", you know who "Mad Stan" is...

(06-09-2013 07:22 PM)Marathon Blazer Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 02:30 PM)backyardblazer Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 02:01 PM)BlazerFromMD Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 11:11 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

Quote:"It wouldn't make sense to do both in my opinion," Hallman said. "My selling point to UAB, which I have recently made and consistently make, you get a brand-new state-of-the-art facility (in a dome). Sure, it's not ideal in that it's not on campus ... It's better than having to build it and pay for it. They would just pay rent on that day but not have to pay the expense of building it.

"We'd build it with them in mind for offices and other things. and then let the program grow. Let it flourish. If at some point you need to go on campus, then do it, but in the interim, we've upgraded our facilities for sporting events and conventions and trade shows ... which we simply don't have enough space for right now."

Gene Hallman needs to kiss the fattest part of my ass.

I was thinking more like the deepest.

Having worked with Genie, um I mean Gene, I wouldn't want him anywhere near my rear end.

Is that how you got the name "backyard blazer?"

No. I got that name from the best (IMHO) UAB advertising campaign.

Oh.....Wait a minute....That was a joke....backyard....back door....funny.

(06-13-2013 04:51 PM)backyardblazer Wrote:  

(06-09-2013 07:22 PM)Marathon Blazer Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 02:30 PM)backyardblazer Wrote:  

(06-07-2013 02:01 PM)BlazerFromMD Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 11:11 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Gene Hallman needs to kiss the fattest part of my ass.

I was thinking more like the deepest.

Having worked with Genie, um I mean Gene, I wouldn't want him anywhere near my rear end.

Is that how you got the name "backyard blazer?"

No. I got that name from the best (IMHO) UAB advertising campaign.

Oh.....Wait a minute....That was a joke....backyard....back door....funny.

I always thought it was because you were a Bama fan in the front yard.

(06-10-2013 09:02 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  They just need to do both. Our next project will be a football building / facility (IMHO) and we still have to put butts in seats and keep building our boosters. The OCS will come. I can see us playing a couple years in it (MPF) while we build our stadium. Then once we have our OCS it will help in getting some bigger name teams to town. We would be more attractive for a two for one from a high major at that point. I can also see them being build simultaneously and we never have to play in it unless we make the local bowl or we get say a Oklahoma State or someone like that for a two for one. Either way we will all be better off in the long run. They are not tied together other than in Hallman's mind.

While driving home, I happened to be going by Bartow Arena, and I was wondering about the building across the street from it and the old Wallace Gym (used to be a grocery store), there was some renovating going on there. I'd thought that spot was the supposed site for the OCS...Is this by chance, where the supposed football building/fieldhouse is going instead now? Or is there another purpose being lined up for that particular site?

Ullman Hall is between Bartow and the practice field.

The problem with Ullman is that it's one of the few actually OLD buildings on campus, and one not without historic significance.

Ideally, you could retrofit Ullman for athletic department use somehow (it would be both cheaper and less politically sticky than tearing it down and building something else). Some of our construction guys should chime in and set me straight if I'm off base.

Right now, I think it's currently being used as a bigass junk closet.