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Hallman needs to realize domes are obsolete now.

(06-06-2013 04:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Yeah, let's play in Gene's dome and get a home game bumped to 10am on a Tuesday because the circus was in town the same week as Justin Beiber.

To me, Legion Field = Domed Stadium = anywhere else not on campus.

The MPF would belong to the city and the county if both are involved in its financing. UAB would have a choice in how much it wants to be "B'ham's University Team" by how much and in what ways it chooses to participate in such decision making. Gene Hallman did not originate the MPF but he sees the advantages it might provide to the city and its metroarea. Now if metroarea taxpayers want to pay all metroarea governmental expenses out of their own personal pockets, then we need to get the new taxes passed to enable them to do it. Otherwise, the need for finding ways to import tax payers from other areas (did anyone notice the Alabama tax payers who helped GA schools by "immigrating" to GA border towns & buying lottery tickets a week or so ago?) need to be built or legally established.

I don't know the genesis of the idea that the city might have an anti-UAB attitude such as what you expressed, but I have heard that B'ham has financialy supported UAB football every year it has been played. Why would it suddenly turn against it with a MPF? Besides, I would doubt that the MPF would be negatively affected by the currently planned small (25,000 to 27,000 seat) OCS. If the city builds the MPF on that scale, it will be no better off than with its present facilities.

(06-06-2013 04:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Yeah, let's play in Gene's dome and get a home game bumped to 10am on a Tuesday because the circus was in town the same week as Justin Beiber.

To me, Legion Field = Domed Stadium = anywhere else not on campus.

See my post re: UAB's participation. If we agreed to play in said MPF, it would be on terms such that this sequence of events - along with MANY things that are commonplace at or regarding our games at LF - would not be allowed. Some think the city/county would have UAB by the short & hairies regarding playing in an MPF, but while they would immediately have dramatic justification for the convention-related purposes of the Facility don't underestimate the need to have a full-time, dedicated football tenant to demonstrate feasibility beyond special sports events. They have less of a grip on our jewels than some think...and we've got at least a potentially painful, if not debilitating, grip of our own when it comes down to it.

(06-06-2013 05:48 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 04:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Yeah, let's play in Gene's dome and get a home game bumped to 10am on a Tuesday because the circus was in town the same week as Justin Beiber.

To me, Legion Field = Domed Stadium = anywhere else not on campus.

The MPF would belong to the city and the county if both are involved in its financing. UAB would have a choice in how much it wants to be "B'ham's University Team" by how much and in what ways it chooses to participate in such decision making. Gene Hallman did not originate the MPF but he sees the advantages it might provide to the city and its metroarea. Now if metroarea taxpayers want to pay all metroarea governmental expenses out of their own personal pockets, then we need to get the new taxes passed to enable them to do it. Otherwise, the need for finding ways to import tax payers from other areas (did anyone notice the Alabama tax payers who helped GA schools by "immigrating" to GA border towns & buying lottery tickets a week or so ago?) need to be built or legally established.

I don't know the genesis of the idea that the city might have an anti-UAB attitude such as what you expressed, but I have heard that B'ham has financialy supported UAB football every year it has been played. Why would it suddenly turn against it with a MPF? Besides, I would doubt that the MPF would be negatively affected by the currently planned small (25,000 to 27,000 seat) OCS. If the city builds the MPF on that scale, it will be no better off than with its present facilities.

Gene Hallman =/= the City of Birmingham.

(06-06-2013 06:06 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 05:48 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 04:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Yeah, let's play in Gene's dome and get a home game bumped to 10am on a Tuesday because the circus was in town the same week as Justin Beiber.

To me, Legion Field = Domed Stadium = anywhere else not on campus.

The MPF would belong to the city and the county if both are involved in its financing. UAB would have a choice in how much it wants to be "B'ham's University Team" by how much and in what ways it chooses to participate in such decision making. Gene Hallman did not originate the MPF but he sees the advantages it might provide to the city and its metroarea. Now if metroarea taxpayers want to pay all metroarea governmental expenses out of their own personal pockets, then we need to get the new taxes passed to enable them to do it. Otherwise, the need for finding ways to import tax payers from other areas (did anyone notice the Alabama tax payers who helped GA schools by "immigrating" to GA border towns & buying lottery tickets a week or so ago?) need to be built or legally established.

I don't know the genesis of the idea that the city might have an anti-UAB attitude such as what you expressed, but I have heard that B'ham has financialy supported UAB football every year it has been played. Why would it suddenly turn against it with a MPF? Besides, I would doubt that the MPF would be negatively affected by the currently planned small (25,000 to 27,000 seat) OCS. If the city builds the MPF on that scale, it will be no better off than with its present facilities.

Gene Hallman =/= the City of Birmingham.

I don't think Gene Hallman is anti-UAB either. He is just against anything that prevents him from getting his cut, and a UAB owned stadium would qualify. If he gets a cut he'll be the most pro UAB person in the state.

(06-06-2013 05:42 PM)blazertke Wrote:  Hallman needs to realize domes are obsolete now.

Tell that to Atlanta who is about to replace their existing one (which according to their manager hosts over 200 events each year) with a new one having a retractable roof by 2017. Perhaps since B'ham will be "arriving late for the MPF party", it can take advantage of what has been learned the hard way by those who beat us to the punch. There seems to be a variety of ways to retract a roof so maybe we can use one that fits our needs and our budget.

(06-06-2013 06:20 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 05:42 PM)blazertke Wrote:  Hallman needs to realize domes are obsolete now.

Tell that to Atlanta who is about to replace their existing one (which according to their manager hosts over 200 events each year) with a new one having a retractable roof by 2017. Perhaps since B'ham will be "arriving late for the MPF party", it can take advantage of what has been learned the hard way by those who beat us to the punch. There seems to be a variety of ways to retract a roof so maybe we can use one that fits our needs and our budget.

Still one of the crazier things I'be heard in a while...

UAB needs an OCS and the city needs a MPF. The two should be mutually exclusive. Both can coexist and be successful.

A UAB on-campus stadium still doesn't prevent a dome from getting it's cut. A dome might be the only way to get home-and-homes with big draw schools that would sell out the arena, and get help in putting together a financial package that would attract them. While I would prefer to play the big games 2 blocks from University Ave, playing a big name SEC school in Birmingham on a 50/50 split sell-out crowd might be the closest we get to a home game for many schools until we win that first end season #1 poll ranking. Is 8 games at Bartow Stadium with OOC games vs Troy and Arkansas St better than 6 at Bartow Stadium and 2 OOC Dome games vs Tennessee and Arkansas? We might be able to sell out a OCS vs Troy, but not the Birmingham Superdome.

I saw a lot of University of Houston games at the Astrodome. If anything is worse than 22k at Legion Field, it's 22k in a big shiny new dome. We'd look just as bad as Tulane does in the Superdome.

We need an appropriate venue on campus.

It would be nice to see 22,000 at Legion Field again.

(06-06-2013 06:12 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 06:06 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 05:48 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 04:02 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Yeah, let's play in Gene's dome and get a home game bumped to 10am on a Tuesday because the circus was in town the same week as Justin Beiber.

To me, Legion Field = Domed Stadium = anywhere else not on campus.

The MPF would belong to the city and the county if both are involved in its financing. UAB would have a choice in how much it wants to be "B'ham's University Team" by how much and in what ways it chooses to participate in such decision making. Gene Hallman did not originate the MPF but he sees the advantages it might provide to the city and its metroarea. Now if metroarea taxpayers want to pay all metroarea governmental expenses out of their own personal pockets, then we need to get the new taxes passed to enable them to do it. Otherwise, the need for finding ways to import tax payers from other areas (did anyone notice the Alabama tax payers who helped GA schools by "immigrating" to GA border towns & buying lottery tickets a week or so ago?) need to be built or legally established.

I don't know the genesis of the idea that the city might have an anti-UAB attitude such as what you expressed, but I have heard that B'ham has financialy supported UAB football every year it has been played. Why would it suddenly turn against it with a MPF? Besides, I would doubt that the MPF would be negatively affected by the currently planned small (25,000 to 27,000 seat) OCS. If the city builds the MPF on that scale, it will be no better off than with its present facilities.

Gene Hallman =/= the City of Birmingham.

I don't think Gene Hallman is anti-UAB either. He is just against anything that prevents him from getting his cut, and a UAB owned stadium would qualify. If he gets a cut he'll be the most pro UAB person in the state.

i agree completely with that but it does not change the fact that he is now the enemy. during the last ocs debate he was speaking out in public against uab getting it. the motivation behind why he is against it is not relevant.

Build them both. I support both projects 100% Hallman be damned. One project has absolutely nothing to do with the other. UAB will continue with facilities no matter what happens with the MPF.

I like Hallman about as much as an Poison Ivey outbreak but he is not against UAB. He simply does not care about anything that does not make him a dollar. Both projects can be successfully completed.

I know I am in the minority on this subject and that's ok. I have a different perspective of having built projects that were said to be a waste of time and money only to see them be successful.

Scarbo sure is pumping his article on his radio broadcast

He should pump all his articles. It feeds his family... LOL I do like the fact he gives UAB the time of day and he also actively defended UAB several times. More than I have heard anyone in the media. It was a rare day I was able to listen to a good portion of that show. Good topics and good discussion. That is what talk radio SHOULD be about. A variety of subjects instead of the same old ROW TOD. That said the two best shows I have heard them do the co host was not present to screw it up.

(06-06-2013 09:36 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  It would be nice to see 22,000 at Legion Field again.

Maybe if they get "American Idol" Rueben Studdard to sing at half, there would be 22,000 at Legion Field (again). Since he's not doing much these days, maybe he could drop by on every home game.

(06-06-2013 11:11 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

Quote:"It wouldn't make sense to do both in my opinion," Hallman said. "My selling point to UAB, which I have recently made and consistently make, you get a brand-new state-of-the-art facility (in a dome). Sure, it's not ideal in that it's not on campus ... It's better than having to build it and pay for it. They would just pay rent on that day but not have to pay the expense of building it.

"We'd build it with them in mind for offices and other things. and then let the program grow. Let it flourish. If at some point you need to go on campus, then do it, but in the interim, we've upgraded our facilities for sporting events and conventions and trade shows ... which we simply don't have enough space for right now."

Gene Hallman needs to kiss the fattest part of my ass.

I was thinking more like the deepest.

(06-07-2013 07:51 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Build them both. I support both projects 100% Hallman be damned. One project has absolutely nothing to do with the other. UAB will continue with facilities no matter what happens with the MPF.

I like Hallman about as much as an Poison Ivey outbreak but he is not against UAB. He simply does not care about anything that does not make him a dollar. Both projects can be successfully completed.

I know I am in the minority on this subject and that's ok. I have a different perspective of having built projects that were said to be a waste of time and money only to see them be successful.

Which is why I wouldn't doubt that he had something to do with the lead-up to that BOT meeting killing the OCS. Perhaps he was part of that secret trustees' meeting, explaining to cubby and finis how they could all PERSONALLY profit from the MPF, while their pockets wouldn't be enriched by an OCS.

(06-07-2013 02:01 PM)BlazerFromMD Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 11:11 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

Quote:"It wouldn't make sense to do both in my opinion," Hallman said. "My selling point to UAB, which I have recently made and consistently make, you get a brand-new state-of-the-art facility (in a dome). Sure, it's not ideal in that it's not on campus ... It's better than having to build it and pay for it. They would just pay rent on that day but not have to pay the expense of building it.

"We'd build it with them in mind for offices and other things. and then let the program grow. Let it flourish. If at some point you need to go on campus, then do it, but in the interim, we've upgraded our facilities for sporting events and conventions and trade shows ... which we simply don't have enough space for right now."

Gene Hallman needs to kiss the fattest part of my ass.

I was thinking more like the deepest.

Having worked with Genie, um I mean Gene, I wouldn't want him anywhere near my rear end.

(06-07-2013 01:33 PM)backyardblazer Wrote:  

(06-06-2013 09:36 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  It would be nice to see 22,000 at Legion Field again.

Maybe if they get "American Idol" Rueben Studdard to sing at half, there would be 22,000 at Legion Field (again). Since he's not doing much these days, maybe he could drop by on every home game.

Yeah, and if we get a couple of wins early we'll have 22k this season.

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