(05-31-2013 09:57 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  If these non-skilled kids want to make $15/hr they should apply to the Seattle Police department and keep making fools of themselves.

You might want to fix your post because a large number of workers in these positions are not kids and actually have families.

(05-31-2013 12:34 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 06:59 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Subway?!? The profit margins at subway are not nearly as big as the National Burger Chains. $15/hr = $6 Big Macs. These idiots don't get it.

It is called a "negotiation". You start high and come down and meet near the middle.

Btw, can you prove that it would raise the prices to $6? I didn't think so.

Are you saying minimum wage salaries should be negotiable? It takes specific job related skills to even think about negotiating salaries, and that's at white collar jobs.

So, Robs, with your stellar economic acumen, please tell us what effect raising employees salaries might have on the cost of the product.

(05-31-2013 10:09 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 12:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  I always get a kick out of you guys. You guys say Obama is snobby, arrogant, condescending etc yet you guys do just that in your posts.

"Looking down your nose at other people does not diminish them; it diminishes you".

Why bother going to college when they can make big bucks at the drive through window.

They aren't going to get $15/hour. Not everyone is going to go to college and not everyone is going to become a plumber or electrician. Not to mention, there are some people who like their jobs as sales people. Oh, $15/hour is not "the big bucks". It is a decent wage in this day and age but by no means "big bucks".

(05-31-2013 11:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 10:09 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 12:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  I always get a kick out of you guys. You guys say Obama is snobby, arrogant, condescending etc yet you guys do just that in your posts.

"Looking down your nose at other people does not diminish them; it diminishes you".

Why bother going to college when they can make big bucks at the drive through window.

Because they are ENTITLED to a good paying job. It's the new American way of thinking.

You are right. We should just make them slaves. THat will allow the corps to make even bigger records profits!

Robs, these are low skill jobs that require a minimum of experience, education or training. That is why they make minimum wage.

It's nothing personal. It's reality.

And before you bring any more working class hero bull****, know that I'm the guy who put me through college. Worked two jobs doing it, one of them slinging a mop on the third shift.

I don't understand this at all. The key to an effective strike is having some leverage with ownership. The low barriers to entry for fast food service workers means owners can easily and quickly train new staff. I suppose political/social pressure in a city like Seattle needs to be considered but in general I don't see what incentive there is for management to cave.

(05-31-2013 12:34 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Btw, can you prove that it would raise the prices to $6? I didn't think so.

http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/careers.html‎

Quote:To everyone in our 761,000-member family we say, "Welcome to McDonald's

http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/McDonald...-E432.htm‎

Quote:Average McDonald's salary is $23891. A free inside look at McDonald's salaries posted anonymously by employees.

$11.65/hr = current average pay

$15 desired pay = 22.4% increase


http://ycharts.com/companies/MCD/profit_margin

McDonalds current quarterly profit margin = 19.23% or $2.4 Billion


http://money.msn.com/now/post.aspx?post=...899f23338c

Quote:Sure, McDonald's (MCD +0.52%) is known for its reasonable prices, but the fast-food giant may be finding that even its iconic burger costs too much for many struggling customers.

A Big Mac costs about $4.20 on average in the U.S., according to the Economist's Big Mac index. In other countries, it's even higher, with Switzerland selling the highest-priced burgers, at $6.81 each.

$4.20 average Big Mac price. (LOL)




SO.....

$23,891/4 (quarterly) * 1.224 = $1337.90 per quarter per employee extra

1337.90 * 761,000 employees = $1,018,141,900 per quarter ADDITIONAL operational expense

McDonald's estimates 550 million Big Macs are sold each year (137.5 Million/quarter)

$7.40 increase PER BIG MAC = (4.20 + 7.40) = $11.60 New Big Mac Price


Who's next?

(05-31-2013 12:38 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, Robs, with your stellar economic acumen, please tell us what effect raising employees salaries might have on the cost of the product.

I know that Alabama edumacation failed you(like a majority of your Confederate state) but I would like to know where I said that the prices wouldn't go up? Please, show me where I said that.

(05-31-2013 12:46 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 11:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 10:09 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 12:47 AM)RobertN Wrote:  I always get a kick out of you guys. You guys say Obama is snobby, arrogant, condescending etc yet you guys do just that in your posts.

"Looking down your nose at other people does not diminish them; it diminishes you".

Why bother going to college when they can make big bucks at the drive through window.

Because they are ENTITLED to a good paying job. It's the new American way of thinking.

You are right. We should just make them slaves.

Not sure how you reached that conclusion. Carry on.

(05-31-2013 12:58 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 12:38 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, Robs, with your stellar economic acumen, please tell us what effect raising employees salaries might have on the cost of the product.

I know that Alabama edumacation failed you(like a majority of your Confederate state) but I would like to know where I said that the prices wouldn't go up? Please, show me where I said that.

Answer the question, Robs.

Up or down?

Flip a coin if you have to. If you can find one.

(05-31-2013 12:37 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 09:57 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  If these non-skilled kids want to make $15/hr they should apply to the Seattle Police department and keep making fools of themselves.

You might want to fix your post because a large number of workers in these positions are not kids and actually have families.

Having a family is in no way related to a person's skill set when it comes to acquiring a job.

(05-31-2013 01:08 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 12:37 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 09:57 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  If these non-skilled kids want to make $15/hr they should apply to the Seattle Police department and keep making fools of themselves.

You might want to fix your post because a large number of workers in these positions are not kids and actually have families.

Having a family is in no way related to a person's skill set when it comes to acquiring a job.

Heartless bastard.

(05-30-2013 09:06 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Many of these folks that will ultimately be subserviant to the government machine. THese jobs are for teens and elderly wanting golf / LifeALert bracelet money. If you are middle-aged with responsibilities and you have no skills that can be marketable outside of running the french fry machine at Wendy's, then shame on you. However, as someone who is working, I hold you in esteem much higher than the parasite class, and would concede that your standard of living should be superior to those that solely suck of the government teat. And the answer is not raising wages, it is lowering benefits for the parasitic class.

So screw the poor...that's what you're saying.

(05-31-2013 01:12 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 01:08 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 12:37 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 09:57 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  If these non-skilled kids want to make $15/hr they should apply to the Seattle Police department and keep making fools of themselves.

You might want to fix your post because a large number of workers in these positions are not kids and actually have families.

Having a family is in no way related to a person's skill set when it comes to acquiring a job.

Heartless bastard.

Yes...exactly...heartless bastards...

(05-31-2013 01:12 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 01:08 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 12:37 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 09:57 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  If these non-skilled kids want to make $15/hr they should apply to the Seattle Police department and keep making fools of themselves.

You might want to fix your post because a large number of workers in these positions are not kids and actually have families.

Having a family is in no way related to a person's skill set when it comes to acquiring a job.

Heartless bastard.

Maybe so. However, one should evaluate employment prospects BEFORE deciding to have kids. Sounds crazy, doesn't it?

It's simple math, Drew.

If you've made it to middle age and haven't developed skills beyond what it takes to flip burgers, you don't get the Porsche.

(05-31-2013 01:24 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 01:12 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 01:08 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 12:37 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-31-2013 09:57 AM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  If these non-skilled kids want to make $15/hr they should apply to the Seattle Police department and keep making fools of themselves.

You might want to fix your post because a large number of workers in these positions are not kids and actually have families.

Having a family is in no way related to a person's skill set when it comes to acquiring a job.

Heartless bastard.

Maybe so. However, one should evaluate employment prospects BEFORE deciding to have kids. Sounds crazy, doesn't it?

What? Take ownership of your situation?

Crazy talk.

(05-31-2013 01:25 PM)Smaug Wrote:  It's simple math, Drew.

If you've made it to middle age and haven't developed skills beyond what it takes to flip burgers, you don't get the Porsche.

Who can buy a Porsche on 9.19 an hour...15 may be too high...but 10 sounds right to me.

(05-31-2013 01:23 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-30-2013 09:06 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  Many of these folks that will ultimately be subserviant to the government machine. THese jobs are for teens and elderly wanting golf / LifeALert bracelet money. If you are middle-aged with responsibilities and you have no skills that can be marketable outside of running the french fry machine at Wendy's, then shame on you. However, as someone who is working, I hold you in esteem much higher than the parasite class, and would concede that your standard of living should be superior to those that solely suck of the government teat. And the answer is not raising wages, it is lowering benefits for the parasitic class.

So screw the poor...that's what you're saying.

Not sure anyone has said that. If one has no skills, there are jobs for them.