(04-24-2013 11:44 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  Produced on the field = the guy can kick = nobody said he couldn't = nothing to do with being the first openly gay NFL player

Clear enough?

I was just saying I don't think Wardawg posted what he did because he thought people were saying Gendreau couldn't kick.

Alan can damn well kick. And he can damn well play in the NFL. I personally hope he gets signed by the Fins down here in Miami, because he's an awesome guy. I'd love to support him and catch up with him again.

I'd be proud of him if I were a MTSU fans...that takes a lot of courage...good for him.

(04-24-2013 01:18 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'd be proud of him if I were a MTSU fans...that takes a lot of courage...good for him.

Agreed.

(04-24-2013 10:09 AM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 09:49 AM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote:  Lol being gay isn't a choice. That's such an ignorant thing for people to say and archaic way to think. Anyway, good for Alan!

Can't say that to be definitive across the board. It doesn't have to be one way or the other. I'd say that it's both. Most folks are naturally genetically hardwired, but some choose lifestyles.
Not for me, but it's for some people I guess. How some guy can't get excited over a Kate Upton is beyond me.

Having gay tendencies might not be a choice, but being gay certainly is a choice. No one is forced to live a homosexual lifestyle, just like no heterosexual-inclined person is forced to live a lifestyle of promiscuity. A married man might have a natural desire to want to have sex with his neighbor, but he isn't an adulterer until he does it.

I think the gay community is taking a wrong tact by demanding that they be recognized as being "born that way." Everything else controversial is so centered around freedom of choice (drugs, abortion, etc), so when homosexuals demand they were born a certain way, it leads me to the conclusion that they are searching for absolution because a part of them feels the lifestyle is against nature. Otherwise, why not just say, "This is my choice, and I'm proud!" like every other modern movement?

This is why the whole civil rights argument is offensive. Gay people don't have their own separate water fountains, gay people aren't sent to the back of the bus, gay people aren't sent to different schools because of something that is impossible to change. Instead, they are celebrated at every turn with special awards, recognition, and scholarships. Shoot, you can't find a TV show anymore that doesn't have a gay character on it.

There is no difference between a gay man and a straight man. They can go to the same places, they can have the same friends, they can do the same things. A straight man can marry any woman he wants, just like a gay man. A gay man can't marry another man (in most states), same a straight man. You can tell the younger generation of people didn't see the struggles that blacks faced, or else they would recoil at ever using the term "civil rights" in connection with this movement.

(04-24-2013 01:37 PM)KevinMac Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 10:09 AM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 09:49 AM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote:  Lol being gay isn't a choice. That's such an ignorant thing for people to say and archaic way to think. Anyway, good for Alan!

Can't say that to be definitive across the board. It doesn't have to be one way or the other. I'd say that it's both. Most folks are naturally genetically hardwired, but some choose lifestyles.
Not for me, but it's for some people I guess. How some guy can't get excited over a Kate Upton is beyond me.

Having gay tendencies might not be a choice, but being gay certainly is a choice. No one is forced to live a homosexual lifestyle, just like no heterosexual-inclined person is forced to live a lifestyle of promiscuity. A married man might have a natural desire to want to have sex with his neighbor, but he isn't an adulterer until he does it.

I think the gay community is taking a wrong tact by demanding that they be recognized as being "born that way." Everything else controversial is so centered around freedom of choice (drugs, abortion, etc), so when homosexuals demand they were born a certain way, it leads me to the conclusion that they are searching for absolution because a part of them feels the lifestyle is against nature. Otherwise, why not just say, "This is my choice, and I'm proud!" like every other modern movement?

This is why the whole civil rights argument is offensive. Gay people don't have their own separate water fountains, gay people aren't sent to the back of the bus, gay people aren't sent to different schools because of something that is impossible to change. Instead, they are celebrated at every turn with special awards, recognition, and scholarships. Shoot, you can't find a TV show anymore that doesn't have a gay character on it.

There is no difference between a gay man and a straight man. They can go to the same places, they can have the same friends, they can do the same things. A straight man can marry any woman he wants, just like a gay man. A gay man can't marry another man (in most states), same a straight man. You can tell the younger generation of people didn't see the struggles that blacks faced, or else they would recoil at ever using the term "civil rights" in connection with this movement.

WTF did I just read? I felt dumber as I went through it. So again I ask now a second person, when did you decide you were heterosexual? Did you have to experiment first to know you love women? I mean you had to. No one can honestly say they don't like something without trying it, right? Since it is a choice.....

(04-24-2013 01:37 PM)KevinMac Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 10:09 AM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 09:49 AM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote:  Lol being gay isn't a choice. That's such an ignorant thing for people to say and archaic way to think. Anyway, good for Alan!

Can't say that to be definitive across the board. It doesn't have to be one way or the other. I'd say that it's both. Most folks are naturally genetically hardwired, but some choose lifestyles.
Not for me, but it's for some people I guess. How some guy can't get excited over a Kate Upton is beyond me.

Having gay tendencies might not be a choice, but being gay certainly is a choice. No one is forced to live a homosexual lifestyle, just like no heterosexual-inclined person is forced to live a lifestyle of promiscuity. A married man might have a natural desire to want to have sex with his neighbor, but he isn't an adulterer until he does it.

I think the gay community is taking a wrong tact by demanding that they be recognized as being "born that way." Everything else controversial is so centered around freedom of choice (drugs, abortion, etc), so when homosexuals demand they were born a certain way, it leads me to the conclusion that they are searching for absolution because a part of them feels the lifestyle is against nature. Otherwise, why not just say, "This is my choice, and I'm proud!" like every other modern movement?

This is why the whole civil rights argument is offensive. Gay people don't have their own separate water fountains, gay people aren't sent to the back of the bus, gay people aren't sent to different schools because of something that is impossible to change. Instead, they are celebrated at every turn with special awards, recognition, and scholarships. Shoot, you can't find a TV show anymore that doesn't have a gay character on it.

There is no difference between a gay man and a straight man. They can go to the same places, they can have the same friends, they can do the same things. A straight man can marry any woman he wants, just like a gay man. A gay man can't marry another man (in most states), same a straight man. You can tell the younger generation of people didn't see the struggles that blacks faced, or else they would recoil at ever using the term "civil rights" in connection with this movement.

You should read about Matthew Shepard, the Stonewall riots, and Harvey Milk...the NAACP even agrees that gay rights are civil rights...it sounds like you think gay people should practice abstinence since they "aren't natural"...the problem is they are doing nothing wrong, and should be just as proud of who they are as anyone else...we live in a free country, and gay people aren't harming anyone by loving each other...just ask the Supreme Court, read Lawrence v. Texas.

(04-24-2013 12:26 PM)tyler90wm Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 11:44 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  Produced on the field = the guy can kick = nobody said he couldn't = nothing to do with being the first openly gay NFL player

Clear enough?

I was just saying I don't think Wardawg posted what he did because he thought people were saying Gendreau couldn't kick.

XACLY! He was saying the comments were immature. If you go read through the entire thread you should get the point as he should have that it was the pic that was funny, not that it was gay bashing.

For some reason, anything that is commented on regarding anything outside of normalcy is regarded as racist, bigoted, prejudicial, blah blah blah.

I find humor in my inadequacies daily. Self deprecating humor is good in my book.

Bottom line, is the publication that printed the article chose the pic for obvious reasons.

Man, it really sucks sometimes to have spell everything out.

edit: it also sucks this thread turned into a chromosomal/choice/civil rights issue. wtfe

I really don't give a shite. I don't care if they pump holes in Sheetrock or shove rocks in their ass.
That's their personal life and only God will judge them just as He will judge everyone of us.

Nobody is perfect.
A sin is a sin.

Ill be glad when all the gay players finally come out so the sideshow can quickly end and the focus be back on football and football players on the field playing a game.

Where is a when you need it....lmfao at this crap

....this is the circle jerk that Jack Link's couldn't fathom

(04-24-2013 01:57 PM)HERD-it-wuz-DJ Wrote:  I really don't give a shite. I don't care if they pump holes in Sheetrock or shove rocks in their ass.
That's their personal life and only God will judge them just as He will judge everyone of us.

Nobody is perfect.
A sin is a sin.

Ill be glad when all the gay players finally come out so the sideshow can quickly end and the focus be back on football and football players on the field playing a game.

I'm just glad our founding fathers, namely Jefferson, were smart enough to ensure the separation of church and state (as held up by the Supreme Court).

You can't use religious dogma to deny someone rights in America...if so, we would just be a Christian version of Iran.

In before lock, but I always wondered what was wrong with "don't ask, don't tell"?

I don't care what anyone does with anyone else. I don't feel compelled to you what I'm doing in my private life.

Keep that crap private.

(04-24-2013 09:41 AM)TG4 Wrote:  He just kicked the winning field goal at Maryland as time ran out.

Just sayin'. And I totally disapprove of his chosen lifestyle

And I totally disapprove of bigoted asshats

(04-24-2013 02:43 PM)RaiderDoug Wrote:  In before lock, but I always wondered what was wrong with "don't ask, don't tell"?

I don't care what anyone does with anyone else. I don't feel compelled to you what I'm doing in my private life.

Keep that crap private.

The problem with "don't ask, don't tell" that most straight people overlook is that straight people tell all the f'in time. Especially when you get a large group of the same sex into a conversation. Not saying they shouldn't be able to talk about it but the other orientation should be able to talk about it as well.

(04-24-2013 10:52 AM)ODUi Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 10:29 AM)TTT Wrote:  Cheesuz christ, if you really think people just woke up one day and "chose" to be gay...then you're an effin idiot, seriously. Did you wake up one day when you were young and "choose" which sexual preference you were sexually attracted too??? No, you didn't.

Ummm... some people actually do wake up and decide to be gay. I've known many a lesbian that were straight at one time (even had kids) and then decided to bat for the other team. Just sayin

Bull$&!t.

(04-24-2013 11:04 AM)cocky Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 09:41 AM)TG4 Wrote:  He just kicked the winning field goal at Maryland as time ran out.

Just sayin'. And I totally disapprove of his chosen lifestyle

Oh yeah? At what point did you choose to like girls then? Since it's a decision and all.

The first time we played doctor and I found out "hers" was different from "mine".

I was smitten.

Cheech and Chong described it best

"Your honor, I plead insanity"

"Insanity?"

"Yessir, I'm just crazy about that stuff"

(04-24-2013 02:49 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 02:43 PM)RaiderDoug Wrote:  In before lock, but I always wondered what was wrong with "don't ask, don't tell"?

I don't care what anyone does with anyone else. I don't feel compelled to you what I'm doing in my private life.

Keep that crap private.

The problem with "don't ask, don't tell" that most straight people overlook is that straight people tell all the f'in time. Especially when you get a large group of the same sex into a conversation. Not saying they shouldn't be able to talk about it but the other orientation should be able to talk about it as well.

Well, too freakin' bad.

If anyone wants to blab about thier private bizarro behaviors, then why should anyone be shocked when they get an adverse reaction.

(04-24-2013 03:08 PM)RaiderDoug Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 02:49 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:  

(04-24-2013 02:43 PM)RaiderDoug Wrote:  In before lock, but I always wondered what was wrong with "don't ask, don't tell"?

I don't care what anyone does with anyone else. I don't feel compelled to you what I'm doing in my private life.

Keep that crap private.

The problem with "don't ask, don't tell" that most straight people overlook is that straight people tell all the f'in time. Especially when you get a large group of the same sex into a conversation. Not saying they shouldn't be able to talk about it but the other orientation should be able to talk about it as well.

Well, too freakin' bad.

If anyone wants to blab about thier private bizarro behaviors, then why should anyone be shocked when they get an adverse reaction.

Problem is most people have gay friends now...and it doesn't elicit adverse reaction anymore...most young people (majority of the military is 18-30) don't see gay people as "bizarro"

(04-24-2013 03:14 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Problem is most people have gay friends now...and it doesn't elicit adverse reaction anymore...most young people (majority of the military is 18-30) don't see gay people as "bizarro"

Well, if the majority of folks don't see gay people are wierd, then what's the problem?

I have to think that this whole "gay rights" thing (how do you give a civil right to a behavior?) is just folks who want to stick a finger in the eye of an older more conservative generation.

I really don't care, they just chose the worst picture they could've chosen if they wanted this story to be taken seriously.

F the question of whether or not gay is a choice. You'll never get to the end of it.