I'm just curious. Are the big boys really going to leave two of their own out of the money? I mean, I know the current Big East's TV deal wasn't great, but they are going to take a pretty good hit with this new TV deal. Mainly, they lose out on the postseason money that the P5 conferences are going to rake in.

Is it safe to assume the ACC will save these two once the Maryland lawsuit gets settled and the Big Ten takes who they want?

(03-27-2013 01:03 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  I'm just curious. Are the big boys really going to leave two of their own out of the money? I mean, I know the current Big East's TV deal wasn't great, but they are going to take a pretty good hit with this new TV deal. Mainly, they lose out on the postseason money that the P5 conferences are going to rake in.

Is it safe to assume the ACC will save these two once the Maryland lawsuit gets settled and the Big Ten takes who they want?

Yes, Cincy to the Sun-Belt.


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Two of their own? They weren't a part of the football club just a short 10 years ago. Does membership in the club mean it's permanent? What about Houston and the SWC? Besides, since 2004 most of the P5 felt the Big East wasn't deserving of it's place amongst the power conferences. I remember in the late 90s almost everyone thinking the Big East would implode then. That drug out for 5-6 years and then it happened (to an extent).

(03-27-2013 01:03 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  I'm just curious. Are the big boys really going to leave two of their own out of the money? I mean, I know the current Big East's TV deal wasn't great, but they are going to take a pretty good hit with this new TV deal. Mainly, they lose out on the postseason money that the P5 conferences are going to rake in.

Is it safe to assume the ACC will save these two once the Maryland lawsuit gets settled and the Big Ten takes who they want?

LMAO

"two of their own"...? Haven't you learned that its every man for themselves? There is no loyalty among theives.

In 1998, neither played football in an AQ conference. Everyone that was in an AQ conference in 1998 (except Temple - who was at one time kicked out of their conference) is now scheduled to be in a contract conference in 2014, with the additions of Utah, TCU, and Louisville. UConn and Cincy though each have had the experience of going to a BCS game in their brief tenure in the AQ world, something a good number of AQ (now contract) conference schools have failed to do.

I don't think you can assume anything about conference realignment in the future. I would say that if other moves are made, that UConn and Cincy would be on the short list of schools that would be considered first to be called up, though.

(03-27-2013 01:08 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Two of their own? They weren't a part of the football club just a short 10 years ago. Does membership in the club mean it's permanent? What about Houston and the SWC? Besides, since 2004 most of the P5 felt the Big East wasn't deserving of it's place amongst the power conferences. I remember in the late 90s almost everyone thinking the Big East would implode then. That drug out for 5-6 years and then it happened (to an extent).

And yet just about everyone from the Big East has found a home in a P5 conference except those 2 and USF. No offense USF, but I can see you guys being left behind. UConn hasn't been a part of the D1-A club for very long, but have a long history in athletics. Cincy also has a ridiculously long football history and joined the D1-A club much sooner. I just find it curious that they are being left behind at the moment. They were in the club, most of the members of their conference have found soft landing places, now they are being kicked out?

(03-27-2013 01:12 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:08 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Two of their own? They weren't a part of the football club just a short 10 years ago. Does membership in the club mean it's permanent? What about Houston and the SWC? Besides, since 2004 most of the P5 felt the Big East wasn't deserving of it's place amongst the power conferences. I remember in the late 90s almost everyone thinking the Big East would implode then. That drug out for 5-6 years and then it happened (to an extent).

And yet just about everyone from the Big East has found a home in a P5 conference except those 2 and USF. No offense USF, but I can see you guys being left behind. UConn hasn't been a part of the D1-A club for very long, but have a long history in athletics. Cincy also has a ridiculously long football history and joined the D1-A club much sooner. I just find it curious that they are being left behind at the moment. They were in the club, most of the members of their conference have found soft landing places, now they are being kicked out?

It's a numbers game all around.

(03-27-2013 01:14 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:12 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:08 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Two of their own? They weren't a part of the football club just a short 10 years ago. Does membership in the club mean it's permanent? What about Houston and the SWC? Besides, since 2004 most of the P5 felt the Big East wasn't deserving of it's place amongst the power conferences. I remember in the late 90s almost everyone thinking the Big East would implode then. That drug out for 5-6 years and then it happened (to an extent).

And yet just about everyone from the Big East has found a home in a P5 conference except those 2 and USF. No offense USF, but I can see you guys being left behind. UConn hasn't been a part of the D1-A club for very long, but have a long history in athletics. Cincy also has a ridiculously long football history and joined the D1-A club much sooner. I just find it curious that they are being left behind at the moment. They were in the club, most of the members of their conference have found soft landing places, now they are being kicked out?

It's a numbers game all around.

Very true. Just seems odd is all. Don't mean to stir anything up, just a question.

(03-27-2013 01:06 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:03 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  I'm just curious. Are the big boys really going to leave two of their own out of the money? I mean, I know the current Big East's TV deal wasn't great, but they are going to take a pretty good hit with this new TV deal. Mainly, they lose out on the postseason money that the P5 conferences are going to rake in.

Is it safe to assume the ACC will save these two once the Maryland lawsuit gets settled and the Big Ten takes who they want?

Yes, Cincy to the Sun-Belt.


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Which is one step above Miami football.

(03-27-2013 01:12 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:08 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Two of their own? They weren't a part of the football club just a short 10 years ago. Does membership in the club mean it's permanent? What about Houston and the SWC? Besides, since 2004 most of the P5 felt the Big East wasn't deserving of it's place amongst the power conferences. I remember in the late 90s almost everyone thinking the Big East would implode then. That drug out for 5-6 years and then it happened (to an extent).

And yet just about everyone from the Big East has found a home in a P5 conference except those 2 and USF. No offense USF, but I can see you guys being left behind. UConn hasn't been a part of the D1-A club for very long, but have a long history in athletics. Cincy also has a ridiculously long football history and joined the D1-A club much sooner. I just find it curious that they are being left behind at the moment. They were in the club, most of the members of their conference have found soft landing places, now they are being kicked out?

What about Temple? lol. We were there at the start of the "club"... And we were part of the club this year.

By the way, how is CUSA treating you?

(03-27-2013 01:12 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Everyone that was in an AQ conference in 1998 is now scheduled to be in a contract conference in 2014, with the additions of Utah, TCU, and Louisville.

Not quite accurate; Temple was in the Big East for football in 1998.

(03-27-2013 01:16 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:12 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:08 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Two of their own? They weren't a part of the football club just a short 10 years ago. Does membership in the club mean it's permanent? What about Houston and the SWC? Besides, since 2004 most of the P5 felt the Big East wasn't deserving of it's place amongst the power conferences. I remember in the late 90s almost everyone thinking the Big East would implode then. That drug out for 5-6 years and then it happened (to an extent).

And yet just about everyone from the Big East has found a home in a P5 conference except those 2 and USF. No offense USF, but I can see you guys being left behind. UConn hasn't been a part of the D1-A club for very long, but have a long history in athletics. Cincy also has a ridiculously long football history and joined the D1-A club much sooner. I just find it curious that they are being left behind at the moment. They were in the club, most of the members of their conference have found soft landing places, now they are being kicked out?

What about Temple? lol. We were there at the start of the "club"... And we were part of the club this year.

By the way, how is CUSA treating you?

That's true. Hadn't thought of them.

Pretty good. Rather be where you are, but I'm not crying about it. Not trying to stir sh!t up, just asking a question.

(03-27-2013 01:15 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:14 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:12 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:08 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Two of their own? They weren't a part of the football club just a short 10 years ago. Does membership in the club mean it's permanent? What about Houston and the SWC? Besides, since 2004 most of the P5 felt the Big East wasn't deserving of it's place amongst the power conferences. I remember in the late 90s almost everyone thinking the Big East would implode then. That drug out for 5-6 years and then it happened (to an extent).

And yet just about everyone from the Big East has found a home in a P5 conference except those 2 and USF. No offense USF, but I can see you guys being left behind. UConn hasn't been a part of the D1-A club for very long, but have a long history in athletics. Cincy also has a ridiculously long football history and joined the D1-A club much sooner. I just find it curious that they are being left behind at the moment. They were in the club, most of the members of their conference have found soft landing places, now they are being kicked out?

It's a numbers game all around.

Very true. Just seems odd is all. Don't mean to stir anything up, just a question.

When the B12 has to add 2 schools and they will, Maryland lawsuit becomes final, Cincy and UConn will find their soft landing spot.

(03-27-2013 01:18 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:12 PM)CommuterBob Wrote:  Everyone that was in an AQ conference in 1998 (except Temple - who was at one time kicked out of their conference) is now scheduled to be in a contract conference in 2014, with the additions of Utah, TCU, and Louisville.

Not quite accurate; Temple was in the Big East for football in 1998.

Good catch. Fixed.

Temple's the only school in the league who was an original club member. Cincy was in C-USA and UCONN was FCS when the BCS started. There's no sense or feeling of loyalty by the power conferences towards those schools.

Two of their own???? Dude Cincy was a conference USA team not to long again and has Uconn ever even won a major bowl game or done anything of note in football?

(03-27-2013 01:03 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  I'm just curious. Are the big boys really going to leave two of their own out of the money? I mean, I know the current Big East's TV deal wasn't great, but they are going to take a pretty good hit with this new TV deal. Mainly, they lose out on the postseason money that the P5 conferences are going to rake in.

Is it safe to assume the ACC will save these two once the Maryland lawsuit gets settled and the Big Ten takes who they want?

Ahem...

USF has been a BCS team as long as UC and UConn.

(03-27-2013 01:33 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  Two of their own???? Dude Cincy was a conference USA team not to long again and has Uconn ever even won a major bowl game or done anything of note in football?

So, 2003 (when UC and USF received Big East invites) was "not too long ago"? It was a decade ago...I guess that's your definition of not too long ago. UConn has won severa BE championships (when WVU, Pitt, etc. were a part of conf.)

(03-27-2013 02:20 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:33 PM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  Two of their own???? Dude Cincy was a conference USA team not to long again and has Uconn ever even won a major bowl game or done anything of note in football?

So, 2003 (when UC and USF received Big East invites) was "not too long ago"? It was a decade ago...I guess that's your definition of not too long ago. UConn has won severa BE championships (when WVU, Pitt, etc. were a part of conf.)

I am not going to look it up, but if my memory is correct I believe that Louisville, Marquette, DePaul, Cincinatti and USF didn't join the BE until 2005. If it was 2005, then that was not a decade.

(03-27-2013 01:19 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:15 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:14 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:12 PM)d1owls4life Wrote:  

(03-27-2013 01:08 PM)apex_pirate Wrote:  Two of their own? They weren't a part of the football club just a short 10 years ago. Does membership in the club mean it's permanent? What about Houston and the SWC? Besides, since 2004 most of the P5 felt the Big East wasn't deserving of it's place amongst the power conferences. I remember in the late 90s almost everyone thinking the Big East would implode then. That drug out for 5-6 years and then it happened (to an extent).

And yet just about everyone from the Big East has found a home in a P5 conference except those 2 and USF. No offense USF, but I can see you guys being left behind. UConn hasn't been a part of the D1-A club for very long, but have a long history in athletics. Cincy also has a ridiculously long football history and joined the D1-A club much sooner. I just find it curious that they are being left behind at the moment. They were in the club, most of the members of their conference have found soft landing places, now they are being kicked out?

It's a numbers game all around.

Very true. Just seems odd is all. Don't mean to stir anything up, just a question.

When the B12 has to add 2 schools and they will, Maryland lawsuit becomes final...

Then UCF and USF are going to ACC to replace FSU and Clemson.