(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:39 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:30 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:25 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:20 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Did I bring up basketball wizard? You took a shot at USM football. I took no shot at Memphis basketball. I will say that USM has been to the NCAA's in basketball and the College World Series in baseball. So we are far from a one trick pony.

no, you took a shot at each and every team leaving CUSA...I didn't make USM go 0-12...USM built that.

USM basketball went to 1 NCAA...Memphis football went to 5 bowls in six years.

baseball isn't a revenue producing sport...football and basketball are...i've never seen a school with a 50 million dollar budget and a program built on baseball, women's basketball, soccer, swimming, etc...football and mens basketball are where the money's at.

You are comparing a team making the NCAA's to a football team going 6-6 and being able to go to a bowl game? Sure, whatever you say.

You're right, there isn't a strong comparison there. But Memphis basketball has accomplished much more than USM football, or any other CUSA football program. Memphis basketball has been the bell-cow for CUSA since 2005 and that's a fact.

Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:39 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:30 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:25 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  no, you took a shot at each and every team leaving CUSA...I didn't make USM go 0-12...USM built that.

USM basketball went to 1 NCAA...Memphis football went to 5 bowls in six years.

baseball isn't a revenue producing sport...football and basketball are...i've never seen a school with a 50 million dollar budget and a program built on baseball, women's basketball, soccer, swimming, etc...football and mens basketball are where the money's at.

You are comparing a team making the NCAA's to a football team going 6-6 and being able to go to a bowl game? Sure, whatever you say.

You're right, there isn't a strong comparison there. But Memphis basketball has accomplished much more than USM football, or any other CUSA football program. Memphis basketball has been the bell-cow for CUSA since 2005 and that's a fact.

Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

One of which (2008) was vacated by the NCAA.

(02-12-2013 05:53 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:39 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:30 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  You are comparing a team making the NCAA's to a football team going 6-6 and being able to go to a bowl game? Sure, whatever you say.

You're right, there isn't a strong comparison there. But Memphis basketball has accomplished much more than USM football, or any other CUSA football program. Memphis basketball has been the bell-cow for CUSA since 2005 and that's a fact.

Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

One of which (2008) was vacated by the NCAA.

run along little middle...adults are talking.

(02-12-2013 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:53 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:39 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  You're right, there isn't a strong comparison there. But Memphis basketball has accomplished much more than USM football, or any other CUSA football program. Memphis basketball has been the bell-cow for CUSA since 2005 and that's a fact.

Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

One of which (2008) was vacated by the NCAA.

run along little middle...adults are talking.

Does the adult in the room deny the accuracy of the kid's comment?

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:39 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:30 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:25 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  no, you took a shot at each and every team leaving CUSA...I didn't make USM go 0-12...USM built that.

USM basketball went to 1 NCAA...Memphis football went to 5 bowls in six years.

baseball isn't a revenue producing sport...football and basketball are...i've never seen a school with a 50 million dollar budget and a program built on baseball, women's basketball, soccer, swimming, etc...football and mens basketball are where the money's at.

You are comparing a team making the NCAA's to a football team going 6-6 and being able to go to a bowl game? Sure, whatever you say.

You're right, there isn't a strong comparison there. But Memphis basketball has accomplished much more than USM football, or any other CUSA football program. Memphis basketball has been the bell-cow for CUSA since 2005 and that's a fact.

Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

How many have you won? And that number would be one. You cheated and the other appearance never happened. Not my rule, NCAA rules. USM actually tied Cincy for a regular season CUSA basketball Championship under James Green. How many football CUSA Championships does Memphis have?

Also, you said I took shots at each and every school leaving CUSA. Go find one post where I did that. Just one. I can't wait to read it.

(02-12-2013 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:53 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:39 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  You're right, there isn't a strong comparison there. But Memphis basketball has accomplished much more than USM football, or any other CUSA football program. Memphis basketball has been the bell-cow for CUSA since 2005 and that's a fact.

Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

One of which (2008) was vacated by the NCAA.

run along little middle...adults are talking.

Old Tiger, if you think this guy is a great person, I have to question your skills at judging people. He is exactly the type fan of a school leaving that I started this thread over.

TV wise CUSA has a better deal.

YEs the money is a little less but the exposure is 1000 times better.

Fox Regional means that multiple games get played. Not just the game of the week. Tulsa was on FXSW almost every week last year. Same with Houston and SMU.

FX SW is a great segway into the 2pm Big 12 games in Texas. I think people would tune in for UNT, UTSA, UTEP La Tech, Tulsa and Rice. Same goes for Fox Fl and the Directional Schools.

(02-12-2013 06:00 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:39 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:30 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  You are comparing a team making the NCAA's to a football team going 6-6 and being able to go to a bowl game? Sure, whatever you say.

You're right, there isn't a strong comparison there. But Memphis basketball has accomplished much more than USM football, or any other CUSA football program. Memphis basketball has been the bell-cow for CUSA since 2005 and that's a fact.

Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

How many have you won? And that number would be one. You cheated and the other appearance never happened. Not my rule, NCAA rules. USM actually tied Cincy for a regular season CUSA basketball Championship under James Green. How many football CUSA Championships does Memphis have?

Also, you said I took shots at each and every school leaving CUSA. Go find one post where I did that. Just one. I can't wait to read it.

then why did the NCAA clear Rose to play...twice?

(02-12-2013 11:47 AM)Big Dub Wrote:  You're being dramatic.

Starting a thread like this is the complete opposite of what you should be doing if you really feel this way.

even USM fans see he's being silly...

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:39 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:30 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:25 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  no, you took a shot at each and every team leaving CUSA...I didn't make USM go 0-12...USM built that.

USM basketball went to 1 NCAA...Memphis football went to 5 bowls in six years.

baseball isn't a revenue producing sport...football and basketball are...i've never seen a school with a 50 million dollar budget and a program built on baseball, women's basketball, soccer, swimming, etc...football and mens basketball are where the money's at.

You are comparing a team making the NCAA's to a football team going 6-6 and being able to go to a bowl game? Sure, whatever you say.

You're right, there isn't a strong comparison there. But Memphis basketball has accomplished much more than USM football, or any other CUSA football program. Memphis basketball has been the bell-cow for CUSA since 2005 and that's a fact.

Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

Ok let's get some actual facts involved with a priority level involved, and the first is that realignment is because of FOOTBALL not basketball. It is not conjecture but actually stated fact. Secondly, when USM was invited to the Metro Conference (forerunner to C-USA) it was because of FOOTBALL not just basketball although USM was showing some good basketball potential which would include the NIT Championship. So to bring basketball into the discussion is more of a side note than a priority. Oh for the record a NIT Championship IS A NATIONAL TITLE and USM has won the NIT so check your statements for fact a little closer.

As for the last season of football that is fool's gold due to the fact that any school can follow a great season with a lackluster season ie. Auburn with Cam Newton and the following year without him. So that is not a very reasonable statement.

I would accept more the statement that in the last 10 meetings Memphis has won 5 of them although to that I point out USM won 3 of the last four. Overall USM has a much superior football program but as you stated Memphis is a basketball school, USM is a football school. It is also a fact football is a bigger revenue producer than basketball.

(02-12-2013 06:00 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:39 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:30 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  You are comparing a team making the NCAA's to a football team going 6-6 and being able to go to a bowl game? Sure, whatever you say.

You're right, there isn't a strong comparison there. But Memphis basketball has accomplished much more than USM football, or any other CUSA football program. Memphis basketball has been the bell-cow for CUSA since 2005 and that's a fact.

Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

How many have you won? And that number would be one. You cheated and the other appearance never happened. Not my rule, NCAA rules. USM actually tied Cincy for a regular season CUSA basketball Championship under James Green. How many football CUSA Championships does Memphis have?

Also, you said I took shots at each and every school leaving CUSA. Go find one post where I did that. Just one. I can't wait to read it.

and what does that matter? you get an NCAA bid for the conference tourney...therefore thats the conference championship...which i think is kinda messed up, but I don't make the rules.

(02-12-2013 06:37 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:39 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:30 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  You are comparing a team making the NCAA's to a football team going 6-6 and being able to go to a bowl game? Sure, whatever you say.

You're right, there isn't a strong comparison there. But Memphis basketball has accomplished much more than USM football, or any other CUSA football program. Memphis basketball has been the bell-cow for CUSA since 2005 and that's a fact.

Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

Ok let's get some actual facts involved with a priority level involved, and the first is that realignment is because of FOOTBALL not basketball. It is not conjecture but actually stated fact. Secondly, when USM was invited to the Metro Conference (forerunner to C-USA) it was because of FOOTBALL not just basketball although USM was showing some good basketball potential which would include the NIT Championship. So to bring basketball into the discussion is more of a side note than a priority. Oh for the record a NIT Championship IS A NATIONAL TITLE and USM has won the NIT so check your statements for fact a little closer.

As for the last season of football that is fool's gold due to the fact that any school can follow a great season with a lackluster season ie. Auburn with Cam Newton and the following year without him. So that is not a very reasonable statement.

I would accept more the statement that in the last 10 meetings Memphis has won 5 of them although to that I point out USM won 3 of the last four. Overall USM has a much superior football program but as you stated Memphis is a basketball school, USM is a football school. It is also a fact football is a bigger revenue producer than basketball.

I guess that makes Memphis the 2002 National Champs since we won the NIT!

(02-12-2013 06:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 06:37 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:39 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  You're right, there isn't a strong comparison there. But Memphis basketball has accomplished much more than USM football, or any other CUSA football program. Memphis basketball has been the bell-cow for CUSA since 2005 and that's a fact.

Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

Ok let's get some actual facts involved with a priority level involved, and the first is that realignment is because of FOOTBALL not basketball. It is not conjecture but actually stated fact. Secondly, when USM was invited to the Metro Conference (forerunner to C-USA) it was because of FOOTBALL not just basketball although USM was showing some good basketball potential which would include the NIT Championship. So to bring basketball into the discussion is more of a side note than a priority. Oh for the record a NIT Championship IS A NATIONAL TITLE and USM has won the NIT so check your statements for fact a little closer.

As for the last season of football that is fool's gold due to the fact that any school can follow a great season with a lackluster season ie. Auburn with Cam Newton and the following year without him. So that is not a very reasonable statement.

I would accept more the statement that in the last 10 meetings Memphis has won 5 of them although to that I point out USM won 3 of the last four. Overall USM has a much superior football program but as you stated Memphis is a basketball school, USM is a football school. It is also a fact football is a bigger revenue producer than basketball.

I guess that makes Memphis the 2002 National Champs since we won the NIT!

it would make Memphis a National Champion because the National Invitational Tourney is a national championship as well, so yes it would make them a national champion but not the NCAA Tournament Champion of that year. Historically the NIT was the National Championship before the NCAA Tournament started and it would take over as the National Championship, but the NIT is still a national tourney and still has to be credited as a national title. Study your history.

Glad to see OP being respectful. Taking the high road, etc.

(02-12-2013 06:24 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:53 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

One of which (2008) was vacated by the NCAA.

run along little middle...adults are talking.

Old Tiger, if you think this guy is a great person, I have to question your skills at judging people. He is exactly the type fan of a school leaving that I started this thread over.

Well, UofMemphis and I have obvious different approaches to message board discussions with conference partners and I "hear" where you're coming from. He's a really nice guy in person.

(02-12-2013 07:09 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 06:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 06:37 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:43 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Not arguing the strength of the Memphis basketball program. That said, USM football has never had any postseason games wiped clean for cheating. That I am very proud of.

USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

Ok let's get some actual facts involved with a priority level involved, and the first is that realignment is because of FOOTBALL not basketball. It is not conjecture but actually stated fact. Secondly, when USM was invited to the Metro Conference (forerunner to C-USA) it was because of FOOTBALL not just basketball although USM was showing some good basketball potential which would include the NIT Championship. So to bring basketball into the discussion is more of a side note than a priority. Oh for the record a NIT Championship IS A NATIONAL TITLE and USM has won the NIT so check your statements for fact a little closer.

As for the last season of football that is fool's gold due to the fact that any school can follow a great season with a lackluster season ie. Auburn with Cam Newton and the following year without him. So that is not a very reasonable statement.

I would accept more the statement that in the last 10 meetings Memphis has won 5 of them although to that I point out USM won 3 of the last four. Overall USM has a much superior football program but as you stated Memphis is a basketball school, USM is a football school. It is also a fact football is a bigger revenue producer than basketball.

I guess that makes Memphis the 2002 National Champs since we won the NIT!

it would make Memphis a National Champion because the National Invitational Tourney is a national championship as well, so yes it would make them a national champion but not the NCAA Tournament Champion of that year. Historically the NIT was the National Championship before the NCAA Tournament started and it would take over as the National Championship, but the NIT is still a national tourney and still has to be credited as a national title. Study your history.

Wow.

(02-12-2013 02:26 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  In person, UofMemphis is that nicest guy you would ever want to meet. It's funny how things get all twisted around on a message board.

Maybe so, but on here he is quite frankly a "DICKWAD". Thus he is on my ignore list. And Id leave him standing if I ever met him.

Things do not get twisted. This happened in 03-05, till things got settled down. I just hope soon July 1, 20013 come and most of these posters leave.

UofMemphis, you say you played for a National Championship 2 times. How many of those victories stand from 2008, how many of those banners are still hanging. Thats what I thought, you cheated to get there. Don't give me the BS Cal didn't know. Cal has cheated everywhere he has been and is a walking NCAA Violation. I give him maybe 5 more years with Kentucky and he will leave under cover at night as NCAA comes to investigate the program.

As far as Memphis football getting better. Does that mean a IAA won't beat you "this year".

UT Martin 20
Memphis 17

(02-12-2013 07:34 PM)oldtiger Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 06:24 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:55 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:53 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

One of which (2008) was vacated by the NCAA.

run along little middle...adults are talking.

Old Tiger, if you think this guy is a great person, I have to question your skills at judging people. He is exactly the type fan of a school leaving that I started this thread over.

Well, UofMemphis and I have obvious different approaches to message board discussions with conference partners and I "hear" where you're coming from. He's a really nice guy in person.

I'm a very nice guy until you disrespect my school, conference, or family...whereas you are one of those amazing people that view every stranger as a friend you just haven't met yet...I'd love to be more like you...great fan.

(02-12-2013 12:17 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Once again, I am not saying for departing fans to not post and contribute to this board. Just cut the bashing and shots at this league and our new members.

I try to avoid the pee pee matches. And, I know the is the C-USA board. But, there is trolling going on both ways. It's a two way street. Some don't take pop shots at others until shots a fired in their direction. We are fans, not the schools themselves. While I agree with the move ECU has made and why they made it, (people can disagree all they want, I knew if asked we'd go), that doesn't mean I wanted it.

It is what it is, I can't change it, I don't like pop shots take at schools staying, but I don't like the shot taken at us and we haven't left yet. We have atleast a year + left in C-USA, many need to step back and take a deep breath or it won't get any better.

(02-12-2013 09:02 PM)Tampa Bay Tiger Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 07:09 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 06:39 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 06:37 PM)SgtGoldenEagle Wrote:  

(02-12-2013 05:45 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  USM has also never played for a National Championship...Memphis has...twice.

Ok let's get some actual facts involved with a priority level involved, and the first is that realignment is because of FOOTBALL not basketball. It is not conjecture but actually stated fact. Secondly, when USM was invited to the Metro Conference (forerunner to C-USA) it was because of FOOTBALL not just basketball although USM was showing some good basketball potential which would include the NIT Championship. So to bring basketball into the discussion is more of a side note than a priority. Oh for the record a NIT Championship IS A NATIONAL TITLE and USM has won the NIT so check your statements for fact a little closer.

As for the last season of football that is fool's gold due to the fact that any school can follow a great season with a lackluster season ie. Auburn with Cam Newton and the following year without him. So that is not a very reasonable statement.

I would accept more the statement that in the last 10 meetings Memphis has won 5 of them although to that I point out USM won 3 of the last four. Overall USM has a much superior football program but as you stated Memphis is a basketball school, USM is a football school. It is also a fact football is a bigger revenue producer than basketball.

I guess that makes Memphis the 2002 National Champs since we won the NIT!

it would make Memphis a National Champion because the National Invitational Tourney is a national championship as well, so yes it would make them a national champion but not the NCAA Tournament Champion of that year. Historically the NIT was the National Championship before the NCAA Tournament started and it would take over as the National Championship, but the NIT is still a national tourney and still has to be credited as a national title. Study your history.

Wow.

What do you expect from NITchampionshipburg?