(01-14-2013 12:38 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 10:55 PM)SApuro Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 08:01 PM)next04 Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 01:33 PM)SApuro Wrote:  I love our AD but she pissed me off with these comments. She needs to be working the phones and putting us in a conference with the tallest midgets. Nothing sexy about future add WKU. Just my opinion.

And what exactly is sexy about UTSA? Try accomplishing something before you bash others

Nothing against WKU but I have zero interest in playing them.

That's what everyone says about utsa.

The Texas teams don't say that UTEP may not like our color scheme but there are a lot of Miners who live in San Antonio. Rice had a nice attendance bump when they played us last year. SA is a stones throw from Dallas so UNT is pleased.

Our OOC schedules are jam packed with Big 12, PAC 12, nBE and MWC teams. I'd say there are plenty of people who want to come to South Texas and snag recruits and probably a win.

(01-14-2013 03:26 AM)SApuro Wrote:  The Sunbelt is known as the bottom of all FBS conferences. If you think otherwise you are a fool. Are they competitive yes but that doesn't negate the stigma with that conference. Excuse me if I'm not happy that CUSA is quickly turning into the Sunbelt. Seems like everyone including our commish is ok being the shortest midget. Feels like the WAC all over again.

As for the academic comment, UTSA has horrible academics that wasnt my point. The point is what does WKU have to offer as a future member? They aren't Rice, they don't offer a market like UNT and they don't have a fan base like ODU.

I'm not happy adding new conference members that will only be another mouth to feed.

Uh oh....another TOGC clone....sigh!

(01-13-2013 01:33 PM)SApuro Wrote:  I love our AD but she pissed me off with these comments. She needs to be working the phones and putting us in a conference with the tallest midgets. Nothing sexy about future add WKU. Just my opinion.

Says the guy whos program was giving away chicken and waffles to get people to buytixs for UTSA Football games. Most of the UTSA posters are pretty nice, how about you not be the bad apple of the bunch.

(01-14-2013 03:26 AM)SApuro Wrote:  The Sunbelt is known as the bottom of all FBS conferences. If you think otherwise you are a fool. Are they competitive yes but that doesn't negate the stigma with that conference. Excuse me if I'm not happy that CUSA is quickly turning into the Sunbelt. Seems like everyone including our commish is ok being the shortest midget. Feels like the WAC all over again.

As for the academic comment, UTSA has horrible academics that wasnt my point. The point is what does WKU have to offer as a future member? They aren't Rice, they don't offer a market like UNT and they don't have a fan base like ODU.

I'm not happy adding new conference members that will only be another mouth to feed.

You might want to actually pay your dues before complaining about being at the bottom of the barrel (which isn't even accurate since being in the Sun Belt would be that). UTSA is blessed to be as high in the pecking order as they are without doing diddily squat so just be glad to be where you are.

You don't have nothing on, say, Georgia Southern, Appalachian State, Delaware or even UMass (who has been to a recent FCS national title game).

(01-13-2013 01:33 PM)SApuro Wrote:  I love our AD but she pissed me off with these comments. She needs to be working the phones and putting us in a conference with the tallest midgets. Nothing sexy about future add WKU. Just my opinion.

Tell you what, puro... how about we just kick your school out then and then add WKU in your place?

You haven't even had one game in conference, and you're already blasting C-USA members?

Talk about arrogance beyond reproach...

I was going to defend WKU, but it seems like you guys have it covered. Carry on.

(01-14-2013 03:26 AM)SApuro Wrote:  The Sunbelt is known as the bottom of all FBS conferences. If you think otherwise you are a fool. Are they competitive yes but that doesn't negate the stigma with that conference. Excuse me if I'm not happy that CUSA is quickly turning into the Sunbelt. Seems like everyone including our commish is ok being the shortest midget. Feels like the WAC all over again.

As for the academic comment, UTSA has horrible academics that wasnt my point. The point is what does WKU have to offer as a future member? They aren't Rice, they don't offer a market like UNT and they don't have a fan base like ODU.

I'm not happy adding new conference members that will only be another mouth to feed.

give me a freaking break. UTSA was in WAC for one season while Tech was there over 10 years. How do you think we felt having to go from UTEP, Tulsa, Boise, Fresno, and Hawaii to having UTSA & Texas St

(01-14-2013 03:26 AM)SApuro Wrote:  The Sunbelt is known as the bottom of all FBS conferences. If you think otherwise you are a fool. Are they competitive yes but that doesn't negate the stigma with that conference. Excuse me if I'm not happy that CUSA is quickly turning into the Sunbelt. Seems like everyone including our commish is ok being the shortest midget. Feels like the WAC all over again.

As for the academic comment, UTSA has horrible academics that wasnt my point. The point is what does WKU have to offer as a future member? They aren't Rice, they don't offer a market like UNT and they don't have a fan base like ODU.

I'm not happy adding new conference members that will only be another mouth to feed.

It would seem the UTSA resident douch_e bag has arrived.

(01-13-2013 08:00 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 01:33 PM)SApuro Wrote:  I love our AD but she pissed me off with these comments. She needs to be working the phones and putting us in a conference with the tallest midgets. Nothing sexy about future add WKU. Just my opinion.

they looked pretty good to us a couple of months ago.

Although I'm still not sure what a "hilltopper" is.

Here ya go:
When the current WKU campus was established in the early 1900’s it was built on top of the one prominent hill in Bowling Green. The area around Bowling Green is relatively flat so this hill stands out. The residents of Bowling Green in the early 20th Century referred to the students on the hilltop as “hilltoppers”. The description took hold and by the 1920’s our athletic teams became referred to as the “Hilltoppers”. Bowling Green is not part of the Appalachian Mountains or foothills. In fact, the entirety of the western half of the state of Kentucky is composed of mostly flat land or gently rolling hills.

(01-14-2013 03:26 AM)SApuro Wrote:  The Sunbelt is known as the bottom of all FBS conferences. If you think otherwise you are a fool. Are they competitive yes but that doesn't negate the stigma with that conference. Excuse me if I'm not happy that CUSA is quickly turning into the Sunbelt. Seems like everyone including our commish is ok being the shortest midget. Feels like the WAC all over again.

As for the academic comment, UTSA has horrible academics that wasnt my point. The point is what does WKU have to offer as a future member? They aren't Rice, they don't offer a market like UNT and they don't have a fan base like ODU.

I'm not happy adding new conference members that will only be another mouth to feed.

Remember, there are very few people who really know or care about college football. At the very peak of viewership, 79.6% of televisions that receive ESPN were NOT tuned in to the BCS championship.

Go to a Texas, Alabama, Michigan, Florida State, or USC game. Randomly select a sample of people and hand them a sheet of paper and tell them to write down:
1. Every school in their conference
2. Every school on their football schedule that year.
3. Every school in no particular order that is in the AP top 10.

Depending on the school, there are 32 to 36 correct answers and I doubt that even 25% will fill in 80% or more of the answers correctly.

Why do most schools in the Rich 5 try to play 7 home games and if they can swing it, even 8 home games? Because their primary marketing tool is winning. The number of people interested in seeing two quality teams play is quite low. The TV ratings bear that out. The top programs get 2/3rds of their revenue from something other than league generated income (TV + NCAA distribution + league championship events). They sell winning and a local brand.

UTSA so far is playing that game well having won 54.5% of all games played creating an image of success despite being 2-4 against actual FBS schools. Fans understand winning much more easily than they understand the quality of opponent especially when that opponent is outside the 20-40 most recognizable brand names.

Unless the college football economic model changes dramatically there are and will always be four types of schools.
1. Power teams (ie. play very well and draw great crowds).
2. Average teams that get to be in the same conference as the power teams.
3. Strong teams outside of the power leagues (play very well and have strong crowds).
4. Everyone else.

In 1998. The Rich six was 64 teams. ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Big East, Pac-10, SEC, Notre Dame.

Currently the Rich 5 is on track to be ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC, Notre Dame, a total of 65 schools.

Moving out of the land of midgets is mostly a pipe dream, so building a program that wins games and sells tickets is the game left to play.

(01-14-2013 10:18 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 08:00 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 01:33 PM)SApuro Wrote:  I love our AD but she pissed me off with these comments. She needs to be working the phones and putting us in a conference with the tallest midgets. Nothing sexy about future add WKU. Just my opinion.

they looked pretty good to us a couple of months ago.

Although I'm still not sure what a "hilltopper" is.

Here ya go:
When the current WKU campus was established in the early 1900’s it was built on top of the one prominent hill in Bowling Green. The area around Bowling Green is relatively flat so this hill stands out. The residents of Bowling Green in the early 20th Century referred to the students on the hilltop as “hilltoppers”. The description took hold and by the 1920’s our athletic teams became referred to as the “Hilltoppers”. Bowling Green is not part of the Appalachian Mountains or foothills. In fact, the entirety of the western half of the state of Kentucky is composed of mostly flat land or gently rolling hills.

ah. thnx for the info. I figured it was something like that. next, someone can explain to me WTF a "tarheel" is.

Whoa. What a thread.

Well, I think our AD is correct. I like C-USA and we really need to focus on our facilities and our recruiting. We need to build a national program.

I honestly think C-USA is the right place to be for quite some time. With strong OOC games by every team in C-USA, an undefeated C-USA team has a real shot at a spot in the playoffs. We all just have to win our OOC games.

(01-14-2013 09:52 AM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(01-14-2013 03:26 AM)SApuro Wrote:  The Sunbelt is known as the bottom of all FBS conferences. If you think otherwise you are a fool. Are they competitive yes but that doesn't negate the stigma with that conference. Excuse me if I'm not happy that CUSA is quickly turning into the Sunbelt. Seems like everyone including our commish is ok being the shortest midget. Feels like the WAC all over again.

As for the academic comment, UTSA has horrible academics that wasnt my point. The point is what does WKU have to offer as a future member? They aren't Rice, they don't offer a market like UNT and they don't have a fan base like ODU.

I'm not happy adding new conference members that will only be another mouth to feed.

It would seem the UTSA resident douch_e bag has arrived.

Now you guys know one of the reasons why TXST fans dislike nUTSAck

(01-14-2013 10:28 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(01-14-2013 10:18 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 08:00 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 01:33 PM)SApuro Wrote:  I love our AD but she pissed me off with these comments. She needs to be working the phones and putting us in a conference with the tallest midgets. Nothing sexy about future add WKU. Just my opinion.

they looked pretty good to us a couple of months ago.

Although I'm still not sure what a "hilltopper" is.

Here ya go:
When the current WKU campus was established in the early 1900’s it was built on top of the one prominent hill in Bowling Green. The area around Bowling Green is relatively flat so this hill stands out. The residents of Bowling Green in the early 20th Century referred to the students on the hilltop as “hilltoppers”. The description took hold and by the 1920’s our athletic teams became referred to as the “Hilltoppers”. Bowling Green is not part of the Appalachian Mountains or foothills. In fact, the entirety of the western half of the state of Kentucky is composed of mostly flat land or gently rolling hills.

ah. thnx for the info. I figured it was something like that. next, someone can explain to me WTF a "tarheel" is.

As a proud native of NC, "tarheel" is a term applied to the citizens of this fine state in reference to it's early economic boom in supplying tar and turpentine from it's many pine forests for use in growing our young nations maritime industry and ship building. It also was a term applied to NC regiments during the civil war for their reputation for staying in rank when others would flee, as in, "Those Carolina boys stood their ground as if they had tar on their heels."


As someone who was not brainwashed in to the "Carolina Way" of thinking, it is also the term used to refer to a certain public university from Chapel Hill that has soiled an otherwise perfectly good nickname by helping student athletes cheat in order to win national titles in men's basketball and attempt to be competitive in football.


For the record, as a Charlotte fan, I'm happy to be back in CUSA. Sure, I will miss ECU, Tulane, and those that left before them, but I was a student during the days of CUSA 1.0 and enjoyed competing against Memphis, Louisville and Cincinnati, UAB and others. I also realize the importance of FBS football in all of these realignments and feel lucky to be back here during our program's football infancy. I look forward to building new rivalries and growing as an institution and a conference with all of you.

(01-14-2013 03:33 AM)SApuro Wrote:  

(01-14-2013 12:38 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 10:55 PM)SApuro Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 08:01 PM)next04 Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 01:33 PM)SApuro Wrote:  I love our AD but she pissed me off with these comments. She needs to be working the phones and putting us in a conference with the tallest midgets. Nothing sexy about future add WKU. Just my opinion.

And what exactly is sexy about UTSA? Try accomplishing something before you bash others

Nothing against WKU but I have zero interest in playing them.

That's what everyone says about utsa.

The Texas teams don't say that UTEP may not like our color scheme but there are a lot of Miners who live in San Antonio. Rice had a nice attendance bump when they played us last year. SA is a stones throw from Dallas so UNT is pleased.

Our OOC schedules are jam packed with Big 12, PAC 12, nBE and MWC teams. I'd say there are plenty of people who want to come to South Texas and snag recruits and probably a win.

(01-13-2013 01:33 PM)SApuro Wrote:  I love our AD but she pissed me off with these comments. She needs to be working the phones and putting us in a conference with the tallest midgets. Nothing sexy about future add WKU. Just my opinion.

Now. That's funny coming from a school playing football for the second year. I thought we were done with ecu fans but now we have this ootsa midgets spewing out trash talk.

I hope UTSA comes to Birmingham this fall.

I am almost proud of this thread. This is some unity again dickness in here.

(01-14-2013 01:15 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  I am almost proud of this thread. This is some unity again dickness in here.

dickness?

WKU over UTSA any day. But nice try, UTSA trolls. WKU has history and is a known name. UTSA is a community college to most people outside of San Antonio.