(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

My point exactly. This "miscommunication" is excusable.

(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

Do you think ANY coach running a program this size wants his AD to back-stab him on scheduling?

(01-04-2013 12:02 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:20 AM)arltiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

I don't think you will have to worry about firing him. I figure he will be looking for a way out now. Who wants to work for guy who makes his decisions on who he is friends with. Who gives a damn if Hart is a nice guy. If he gets a deal where we play them only in the year they play us in fb, then I will give him credit. The last I looked san jose's bb team was not setting the world on fire and I assume he ran that program too.

Best thing that can happen to us is for Josh to get a job offer at another school and we decline to match.

Nick King, M. Crawford, and hopefully, Austin Nichols stay, JJ, Shaq, and Adonis hopefully stay, and a great hire convinces Pookie Powell to come, and we instantly become a final four contenders.

Thank goodness you are NOT in charge.

(01-04-2013 01:44 PM)halo27legend Wrote:  Bowen is full of ****. He is totally just acting like a little b**** right now by under cutting Pastner. Even if what he says is the truth (which is total BS), the slap in the face to Pastner and the timing of the whole deal was absolutely low class and dumb.

(01-04-2013 02:13 PM)missjtiger Wrote:  So all these folks that are going to be clamoring to buy seats to the FEF if Pearlvert was coach....you really believe they will also be willing to pay the donation in order to sit lower level ?

I absolutely believe that.

(01-04-2013 04:39 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

Do you think ANY coach running a program this size wants his AD to back-stab him on scheduling?

A coach who is a national championship contender doesn't have to worry about his AD back-stabbing him because he's making his AD look good.

(01-04-2013 04:40 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 12:02 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:20 AM)arltiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

I don't think you will have to worry about firing him. I figure he will be looking for a way out now. Who wants to work for guy who makes his decisions on who he is friends with. Who gives a damn if Hart is a nice guy. If he gets a deal where we play them only in the year they play us in fb, then I will give him credit. The last I looked san jose's bb team was not setting the world on fire and I assume he ran that program too.

Best thing that can happen to us is for Josh to get a job offer at another school and we decline to match.

Nick King, M. Crawford, and hopefully, Austin Nichols stay, JJ, Shaq, and Adonis hopefully stay, and a great hire convinces Pookie Powell to come, and we instantly become a final four contenders.

Thank goodness you are NOT in charge.

I'm confused... In the scenario I suggested where Josh Pastner takes a job at another school, how would me being in charge or not being in charge affect that scenario?

(01-04-2013 04:55 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:39 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

Do you think ANY coach running a program this size wants his AD to back-stab him on scheduling?

A coach who is a national championship contender doesn't have to worry about his AD back-stabbing him because he's making his AD look good.

(01-04-2013 04:58 PM)madtiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:55 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:39 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

Do you think ANY coach running a program this size wants his AD to back-stab him on scheduling?

A coach who is a national championship contender doesn't have to worry about his AD back-stabbing him because he's making his AD look good.

There's really no way to make this AD look good.

So we need to just go ahead and let him go, correct?

(01-04-2013 04:50 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 02:13 PM)missjtiger Wrote:  So all these folks that are going to be clamoring to buy seats to the FEF if Pearlvert was coach....you really believe they will also be willing to pay the donation in order to sit lower level ?

I absolutely believe that.

Well, if it happens, maybe I can up the price a little bit for my GOOD seats and make a little $$ off of it.

(01-04-2013 05:18 PM)madtiger Wrote:  So we need to just go ahead and let him go, correct?

Well, he was hired with an assumption he could grow into the job quickly.......apparently, not so much....

(01-04-2013 04:55 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 04:39 PM)Merrick Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

Do you think ANY coach running a program this size wants his AD to back-stab him on scheduling?

A coach who is a national championship contender doesn't have to worry about his AD back-stabbing him because he's making his AD look good.

Somebody asked you a while ago to support your dumb opinion by naming names of coaches who would take this job. You haven't come up with anyone, much less someone capable of making us a national contender. Do you think if you added "backstabber AD" to the job description, the coaching search would go any better this time around?

Bowen the control freak is just pissed that he had to sit in his AD office at SJSU for 8 years and look at the plaque on his wall that read

Pasadena Bowl
Dec 18th 1971

Memphis St 28- SJSU 9.

(01-04-2013 12:06 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:25 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

EVERY elite basketball coach and head coaches at schools where BB is king (Memphis, Gonzaga, Duke, etc) set their own basketball schedule.

Bingo...

Josh Pastner is about as far from "elite" as one can get, and would be much more comfortable at a job like St. Mary's.

Look up John Wooden's record his first 4 years as a head coach and he did not have the pressure of trying to keep an elite program together after it was stripped to the bone by the outgoing coach.

(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

Not a quality coach out there who would take the job with Bowen as AD.

(01-04-2013 12:02 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  Best thing that can happen to us is for Josh to get a job offer at another school and we decline to match.

Nick King, M. Crawford, and hopefully, Austin Nichols stay, JJ, Shaq, and Adonis hopefully stay, and a great hire convinces Pookie Powell to come, and we instantly become a final four contenders.

The best thing is to throw yet another top 5 recruiting class into the air and cross your fingers for an "elite coach" to stroll by? Cool, maybe we'll make it to the Sweet 16 by 2022

(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

That's just a downright idiotic suggestion .........

Would you have fired Calipari halfway through his 4th season at Memphis?

Or Mike Krzyzewski halfway through his 4th season at Duke?

What we're seeing is part of the seasoning that any Head Coach gets when he first starts out.

(01-05-2013 05:59 PM)Cletus Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

That's just a downright idiotic suggestion .........

Would you have fired Calipari halfway through his 4th season at Memphis?

Or Mike Krzyzewski halfway through his 4th season at Duke?

What we're seeing is part of the seasoning that any Head Coach gets when he first starts out.

Didn't you know that Memphis fans are entitled to 30+ win seasons and elite eights every year?

(01-05-2013 06:29 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(01-05-2013 05:59 PM)Cletus Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

That's just a downright idiotic suggestion .........

Would you have fired Calipari halfway through his 4th season at Memphis?

Or Mike Krzyzewski halfway through his 4th season at Duke?

What we're seeing is part of the seasoning that any Head Coach gets when he first starts out.

Didn't you know that Memphis fans are entitled to 30+ win seasons and elite eights every year?

No, a Sweet 16 every 4 years I would say.
In Cal's fourth year, he was being rightly criticized. He knew it was past time to do something.