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RE: Bowen's reason for reopening the TN discussions
(01-04-2013 01:04 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:02 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:57 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  He's in his seventh season at Ole Miss, and hasn't had a thing to work with down there....still manages to win 20+ games every year.

20 win seasons in 5 of his first 6 years...

He's gotta be the best coach EVER!

01-wingedeagle

Come on, Lat. You're smarter than that. My point was, in his one year at a legitimate program with legitimate resources like Cincinnati, he showed he was a hell of a coach.

NOBODY can win consistently at Ole Miss as long as Tad Smith Coliseum is still standing.

I mean, if you win alot of games in the regular season, you just have to be a great coach right?
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(01-04-2013 12:52 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:48 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
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(01-04-2013 12:32 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  I'd rather have crooked assed Bruce Pearl or Kelvin Sampson over Josh Pastner.

Jeff Capel might suck long term, but he'd get more out of this talent than Josh is.

Bruce Pearl is an interesting name.

Kelvin Sampson will never work in college athletics again.

Jeff Capel's track record is worse than Pastner's.

Bruce Pearl used the murder of Lorenzen Wright to recruit againt Memphis. I will give up my season tickets if Memphis hires him.

He's a winner though.

I don't care. That was too classless to ignore.

I would call Pearlvert anything but a winner. Remind me, where is he now?
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(01-04-2013 01:10 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:06 PM)missjtiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:37 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:18 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:13 PM)arltiger Wrote:  Yeah fire a guy who is averaging 25 wins a season, running the program the right way, and is a credit to the city and the University. If you think all these players signed because of who we are instead of who Josh is you are even more naive than I thought. Maybe we can hire Mike Davis or Tic Price.

Getting them here is one thing. Nobody will ever say Pastner can't get them here.

But what he does with them once they're here....? Completely different story. He's drowning.

If the regression of guys like Joe Jackson and Chris Crawford doesn't speak volumes, there's not much I can say for you.

See, you became an Ole Miss fan long enough to lose any basketball knowledge. Have you watched Joe play this season? Seriously? He's playing the best ball of his college career!

He doesn't have a clue....just talking out his rebel black bear you know what.

Geez....but you're sweet to me in person......

and you pretend to be a tiger fan when I see you in person 04-jawdrop Are you actually saying the Tad Pad is the reason Ole Miss sucks ?
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RE: Bowen's reason for reopening the TN discussions
(01-04-2013 01:12 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:52 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:48 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:47 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:43 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Bruce Pearl is an interesting name.

Kelvin Sampson will never work in college athletics again.

Jeff Capel's track record is worse than Pastner's.

Bruce Pearl used the murder of Lorenzen Wright to recruit againt Memphis. I will give up my season tickets if Memphis hires him.

He's a winner though.

I don't care. That was too classless to ignore.

I would call Pearlvert anything but a winner. Remind me, where is he now?

Getting paid by a Tennessee-Knoxville booster. So they must not be too pissed with him.

Real question... What would Pearl do with Josh Pastner's talent?
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The only point I made is that there are a number of coaches who would do a MUCH better job at the University of Memphis than the current one......and yes, that list includes Andy Kennedy.

Instead of intelligent rebuttals, this place comes back with......

"Stupid"

"Miserable"

"Clueless"

Y'all have a good day. Me and the wife will be heading to Birmingham in the morning. 04-cheers
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(01-04-2013 01:03 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:58 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  JJ - Averaged double figures scoring every year. Points, assists, & shooting % increased every year. TO decreased.
AB - Has been better than expected.
CC- Very up and down. Every coach has guys like this.
AT - Struggled shooting this year, not the coaches fault, but was also never hailed as a great scorer.
SG - As good or better than anybody expected.
TB - Progressed every year, and been as good or better than expected.
DJ - Far exceeded expectations.
GJ - A nice addition and playing about like was expected.
Will Barton - Slid in the draft, but realistically his numbers were fantastic last year and noticeably improved from frosh to sophomore year.

You say JP has not done well his players but I just do not buy that. Every coach has players that do not live up to expectations for one reason or another. However, if you are going to blame those guys on JP than you also have to credit for the players who have excelled under him. As a team they have struggled to pull it all together, and that is on JP without doubt. But he is a young coach and some of this should have been expected. With the core returning next year and the class he is bringing in I fully expect to start seeing much better results.

How many of Pastner's McDonald's All-Americans will be lottery picks?

WHo knows? How many were projected to be? One?
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(01-04-2013 01:14 PM)missjtiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:10 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:06 PM)missjtiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:37 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:18 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  Getting them here is one thing. Nobody will ever say Pastner can't get them here.

But what he does with them once they're here....? Completely different story. He's drowning.

If the regression of guys like Joe Jackson and Chris Crawford doesn't speak volumes, there's not much I can say for you.

See, you became an Ole Miss fan long enough to lose any basketball knowledge. Have you watched Joe play this season? Seriously? He's playing the best ball of his college career!

He doesn't have a clue....just talking out his rebel black bear you know what.

Geez....but you're sweet to me in person......

and you pretend to be a tiger fan when I see you in person 04-jawdrop Are you actually saying the Tad Pad is the reason Ole Miss sucks ?

Oh, it definitely plays a huge role.

Oh, and you probably oughta work on you if you decide whether you like a person based off his choice of college team.
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(01-04-2013 01:15 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  The only point I made is that there are a number of coaches who would do a MUCH better job at the University of Memphis than the current one......and yes, that list includes Andy Kennedy.

Instead of intelligent rebuttals, this place comes back with......

"Stupid"

"Miserable"

"Clueless"

Y'all have a good day. Me and the wife will be heading to Birmingham in the morning. 04-cheers

Dude, stop. Just stop. Step back from the keyboard.
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(01-04-2013 01:15 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:12 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:52 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:48 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:47 PM)transitt Wrote:  Bruce Pearl used the murder of Lorenzen Wright to recruit againt Memphis. I will give up my season tickets if Memphis hires him.

He's a winner though.

I don't care. That was too classless to ignore.

I would call Pearlvert anything but a winner. Remind me, where is he now?

Getting paid by a Tennessee-Knoxville booster. So they must not be too pissed with him.

Real question... What would Pearl do with Josh Pastner's talent?

Not sure what he would do with the talent but I can assure you the FEF would be half empty. I know I wouldn't be there nor any or my 5 other crew.
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(01-04-2013 01:07 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:03 PM)Poorwill Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:18 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:13 PM)arltiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:02 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  Best thing that can happen to us is for Josh to get a job offer at another school and we decline to match.

Nick King, M. Crawford, and hopefully, Austin Nichols stay, JJ, Shaq, and Adonis hopefully stay, and a great hire convinces Pookie Powell to come, and we instantly become a final four contenders.

Yeah fire a guy who is averaging 25 wins a season, running the program the right way, and is a credit to the city and the University. If you think all these players signed because of who we are instead of who Josh is you are even more naive than I thought. Maybe we can hire Mike Davis or Tic Price.

Getting them here is one thing. Nobody will ever say Pastner can't get them here.

But what he does with them once they're here....? Completely different story. He's drowning.

If the regression of guys like Joe Jackson and Chris Crawford doesn't speak volumes, there's not much I can say for you.

The problem is you believe your own hype about how good these guys are to begin with

Oh, absolutely....

Since 2008, this board has been trying to compare every team with THAT team.....and so few people seem to understand that THAT team was once in a lifetime. In all likelihood, the stars probably won't ever be aligning like that for Memphis again.

We're so lucky the wife lets you take a break from your daily chores to post on this board. We will assume that she is ordering you to be a Memphis Tiger fan, because well...well because that's how your teams are chosen for you. I'm sure that the wife chooses what clothes you wear every day, and she has simply gone from choosing blue, to red, and now back to blue clothing.

I feel bad for you. It must be almost impossible getting 10 cents on the dollar on EBay, for all of that red makeup you have to unload.
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(01-04-2013 01:07 PM)fsquid Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:04 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:02 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:57 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  He's in his seventh season at Ole Miss, and hasn't had a thing to work with down there....still manages to win 20+ games every year.

20 win seasons in 5 of his first 6 years...

He's gotta be the best coach EVER!

01-wingedeagle

Come on, Lat. You're smarter than that. My point was, in his one year at a legitimate program with legitimate resources like Cincinnati, he showed he was a hell of a coach.

NOBODY can win consistently at Ole Miss as long as Tad Smith Coliseum is still standing.

you'd think with his obvious coaching acumen that someone would give him a better job. Guess not.

He doesn’t have a better job because he’s a sorry azz coach
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(01-04-2013 01:17 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:14 PM)missjtiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:10 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:06 PM)missjtiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:37 PM)transitt Wrote:  See, you became an Ole Miss fan long enough to lose any basketball knowledge. Have you watched Joe play this season? Seriously? He's playing the best ball of his college career!

He doesn't have a clue....just talking out his rebel black bear you know what.

Geez....but you're sweet to me in person......

and you pretend to be a tiger fan when I see you in person 04-jawdrop Are you actually saying the Tad Pad is the reason Ole Miss sucks ?

Oh, it definitely plays a huge role.

Oh, and you probably oughta work on you if you decide whether you like a person based off his choice of college team.

Lord have mercy...huh ?
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(01-04-2013 01:17 PM)missjtiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:15 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:12 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:52 PM)transitt Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:48 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  He's a winner though.

I don't care. That was too classless to ignore.

I would call Pearlvert anything but a winner. Remind me, where is he now?

Getting paid by a Tennessee-Knoxville booster. So they must not be too pissed with him.

Real question... What would Pearl do with Josh Pastner's talent?

Not sure what he would do with the talent but I can assure you the FEF would be half empty. I know I wouldn't be there nor any or my 5 other crew.

I bet if Pearl performed as well with these players as we did with less talent at UTK someone will buy your tickets.

You could have this team coached by Dana Kirk's corpse, and FedExForum will be sold out if the zombie was getting the team to the sweet sixteen.
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(01-04-2013 01:15 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  The only point I made is that there are a number of coaches who would do a MUCH better job at the University of Memphis than the current one......and yes, that list includes Andy Kennedy.

Instead of intelligent rebuttals, this place comes back with......

"Stupid"

"Miserable"

"Clueless"

Y'all have a good day. Me and the wife will be heading to Birmingham in the morning. 04-cheers

Josh could do better than Andy Kennedy and can get a much better position. Kennedy is stuck because other ADs don’t see what you see in him. If they did he would be gone.

I definitely don’t want him here because the only way he’s going is down. Plus I like McDonald AAs and 5 star recruits which Kennedy seems allergic to. Or are they allergic to him?

Anyhow, Kennedy is where he needs to be and that’s stuck in a low-level program with luke warm fans.
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(01-04-2013 01:31 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:17 PM)missjtiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:15 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:12 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:52 PM)transitt Wrote:  I don't care. That was too classless to ignore.

I would call Pearlvert anything but a winner. Remind me, where is he now?

Getting paid by a Tennessee-Knoxville booster. So they must not be too pissed with him.

Real question... What would Pearl do with Josh Pastner's talent?

Not sure what he would do with the talent but I can assure you the FEF would be half empty. I know I wouldn't be there nor any or my 5 other crew.

I bet if Pearl performed as well with these players as we did with less talent at UTK someone will buy your tickets.

You could have this team coached by Dana Kirk's corpse, and FedExForum will be sold out if the zombie was getting the team to the sweet sixteen.

Yup. Bruce Pearl bumped UT men's bball attendance numbers up to top 5 nationally. He'd have folks lined up to watch us play UT-Martin.
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(01-04-2013 12:58 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  JJ - Averaged double figures scoring every year. Points, assists, & shooting % increased every year. TO decreased.
AB - Has been better than expected.
CC- Very up and down. Every coach has guys like this.
AT - Struggled shooting this year, not the coaches fault, but was also never hailed as a great scorer.
SG - As good or better than anybody expected.
TB - Progressed every year, and been as good or better than expected.
DJ - Far exceeded expectations.
GJ - A nice addition and playing about like was expected.
Will Barton - Slid in the draft, but realistically his numbers were fantastic last year and noticeably improved from frosh to sophomore year.

You say JP has not done well his players but I just do not buy that. Every coach has players that do not live up to expectations for one reason or another. However, if you are going to blame those guys on JP than you also have to credit for the players who have excelled under him. As a team they have struggled to pull it all together, and that is on JP without doubt. But he is a young coach and some of this should have been expected. With the core returning next year and the class he is bringing in I fully expect to start seeing much better results.

Thank God, somebody with some sense. Thomas couldn't score in HS. Crawford has been the same way since he stepped on campus. Hotter than hell one night and then goes three or four games and cannot hit the floor. JJis not scoring like he did in HS, but he has impr oved in all other aspects. Black has gotten better each year. One thing that would help, if Mphs would get some quality HS coaches. There are no Vertie Sales, Dorsey Sims, Joe Branch etc. around here anymore.
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(01-04-2013 01:31 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
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(01-04-2013 01:15 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:12 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:52 PM)transitt Wrote:  I don't care. That was too classless to ignore.

I would call Pearlvert anything but a winner. Remind me, where is he now?

Getting paid by a Tennessee-Knoxville booster. So they must not be too pissed with him.

Real question... What would Pearl do with Josh Pastner's talent?

Not sure what he would do with the talent but I can assure you the FEF would be half empty. I know I wouldn't be there nor any or my 5 other crew.

I bet if Pearl performed as well with these players as we did with less talent at UTK someone will buy your tickets.

You could have this team coached by Dana Kirk's corpse, and FedExForum will be sold out if the zombie was getting the team to the sweet sixteen.

Pearl could have come here but he used the under the table offer to blackmail UTK into a better deal.

Memphis just got out of the NCAA jail house and now some are talking about hiring a dirty coach coming off of suspension. Stupid.

No not stupid. Crazy.
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(01-04-2013 01:31 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 01:15 PM)HornLakeTiger Wrote:  The only point I made is that there are a number of coaches who would do a MUCH better job at the University of Memphis than the current one......and yes, that list includes Andy Kennedy.

Instead of intelligent rebuttals, this place comes back with......

"Stupid"

"Miserable"

"Clueless"

Y'all have a good day. Me and the wife will be heading to Birmingham in the morning. 04-cheers

Josh could do better than Andy Kennedy and can get a much better position. Kennedy is stuck because other ADs don’t see what you see in him. If they did he would be gone.

I definitely don’t want him here because the only way he’s going is down. Plus I like McDonald AAs and 5 star recruits which Kennedy seems allergic to. Or are they allergic to him?

Anyhow, Kennedy is where he needs to be and that’s stuck in a low-level program with luke warm fans.

luke warm fans is being kind....they average around 3,000 per game.
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Bowen is full of ****. He is totally just acting like a little b**** right now by under cutting Pastner. Even if what he says is the truth (which is total BS), the slap in the face to Pastner and the timing of the whole deal was absolutely low class and dumb.
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(01-04-2013 01:37 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Yup. Bruce Pearl bumped UT men's bball attendance numbers up to top 5 nationally. He'd have folks lined up to watch us play UT-Martin.

Bruce Pearl? 03-confused

Heck let’s just hire this dude as coach and get it over with…

[Image: jerry_lawler_bio.png]

Yep Jerry the KING Lawler. May not win many games but FEF would be packed to the rafters all season.
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