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Bowen's reason for reopening the TN discussions
Bowen appears to have had a change of mind regarding the Tenesssee series after the recent changes in Big East membership. >>>

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The only way I would agree to play them, would be in the same year they play us in fb. If we play ther in fb, play bhere in bb. It is much more important to play L'ville and Cincy. Even Martin said it was important to play us because of recruiting. I have very little respect for Bowen. He needs to get off his ass and get out into the community. He is damn near invisible. The only time you hear him talk, it is about what he did at san jose. His comments on the Big East Commissioners in this mornings paper border on insanity. If he would ever get out of his office he might realize we have a problem. For him to think he is better able to run a bb program than Joshn is simply ludicrous.
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It is his program now.
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In Katz's article Bowen made the comment that playing Tennessee in all sports is important for Memphis. So, it appears, he might be working along those lines.
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(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.
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(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.
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(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.
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(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?
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I think everyone would like to play UT in football every year, if they want to play us in basketball.

I like the game, but we are at a distinct disadvantage with a home and home in football until we can figure out a way to keep 30,000 orange fans out.
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(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

I don't think you will have to worry about firing him. I figure he will be looking for a way out now. Who wants to work for guy who makes his decisions on who he is friends with. Who gives a damn if Hart is a nice guy. If he gets a deal where we play them only in the year they play us in fb, then I will give him credit. The last I looked san jose's bb team was not setting the world on fire and I assume he ran that program too.
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(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

EVERY elite basketball coach and head coaches at schools where BB is king (Memphis, Gonzaga, Duke, etc) set their own basketball schedule.
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(01-04-2013 10:25 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

EVERY elite basketball coach and head coaches at schools where BB is king (Memphis, Gonzaga, Duke, etc) set their own basketball schedule.

You said the key word. John Elway called his own plays for the Broncos. Tim Tebow didn't. When the Broncos brought in Big Head Peyton Manning, he called his own plays too.
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(01-04-2013 10:20 AM)arltiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

I don't think you will have to worry about firing him. I figure he will be looking for a way out now. Who wants to work for guy who makes his decisions on who he is friends with. Who gives a damn if Hart is a nice guy. If he gets a deal where we play them only in the year they play us in fb, then I will give him credit. The last I looked san jose's bb team was not setting the world on fire and I assume he ran that program too.

Best thing that can happen to us is for Josh to get a job offer at another school and we decline to match.

Nick King, M. Crawford, and hopefully, Austin Nichols stay, JJ, Shaq, and Adonis hopefully stay, and a great hire convinces Pookie Powell to come, and we instantly become a final four contenders.
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(01-04-2013 10:25 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

EVERY elite basketball coach and head coaches at schools where BB is king (Memphis, Gonzaga, Duke, etc) set their own basketball schedule.

True, but did I miss when Josh became an elite coach?
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(01-04-2013 10:25 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

EVERY elite basketball coach and head coaches at schools where BB is king (Memphis, Gonzaga, Duke, etc) set their own basketball schedule.

Bingo...

Josh Pastner is about as far from "elite" as one can get, and would be much more comfortable at a job like St. Mary's.
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(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:24 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  It is his program now.

No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

I hope you're ready to produce some names for replacements if you want to suggest this.
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(01-04-2013 12:02 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 10:20 AM)arltiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

I don't think you will have to worry about firing him. I figure he will be looking for a way out now. Who wants to work for guy who makes his decisions on who he is friends with. Who gives a damn if Hart is a nice guy. If he gets a deal where we play them only in the year they play us in fb, then I will give him credit. The last I looked san jose's bb team was not setting the world on fire and I assume he ran that program too.

Best thing that can happen to us is for Josh to get a job offer at another school and we decline to match.

Nick King, M. Crawford, and hopefully, Austin Nichols stay, JJ, Shaq, and Adonis hopefully stay, and a great hire convinces Pookie Powell to come, and we instantly become a final four contenders.

Yeah fire a guy who is averaging 25 wins a season, running the program the right way, and is a credit to the city and the University. If you think all these players signed because of who we are instead of who Josh is you are even more naive than I thought. Maybe we can hire Mike Davis or Tic Price.
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(01-04-2013 12:13 PM)arltiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:02 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 10:20 AM)arltiger Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

I don't think you will have to worry about firing him. I figure he will be looking for a way out now. Who wants to work for guy who makes his decisions on who he is friends with. Who gives a damn if Hart is a nice guy. If he gets a deal where we play them only in the year they play us in fb, then I will give him credit. The last I looked san jose's bb team was not setting the world on fire and I assume he ran that program too.

Best thing that can happen to us is for Josh to get a job offer at another school and we decline to match.

Nick King, M. Crawford, and hopefully, Austin Nichols stay, JJ, Shaq, and Adonis hopefully stay, and a great hire convinces Pookie Powell to come, and we instantly become a final four contenders.

Yeah fire a guy who is averaging 25 wins a season, running the program the right way, and is a credit to the city and the University. If you think all these players signed because of who we are instead of who Josh is you are even more naive than I thought. Maybe we can hire Mike Davis or Tic Price.

Getting them here is one thing. Nobody will ever say Pastner can't get them here.

But what he does with them once they're here....? Completely different story. He's drowning.

If the regression of guys like Joe Jackson and Chris Crawford doesn't speak volumes, there's not much I can say for you.
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(01-04-2013 12:09 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:30 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  No, it's his department (Athletics), it's Josh's program (basketball).\

Stay in your lane, Thomas.

As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

I hope you're ready to produce some names for replacements if you want to suggest this.

I don't know. It's not my job to know. The person who is supposed to know is Tom Bowen... The one who obviously is showing Josh Pastner who's boss.
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(01-04-2013 12:24 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 12:09 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 10:11 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:50 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-04-2013 09:34 AM)MemphisMojo Wrote:  As the CEO of Tiger Athletics Bowen is in charge of all the programs. The days of coaches running things left with RC, Tommy and Cal.

Then Bowen may as well fire Pastner and coach the games himself. He can save all us boosters $1.7 mill. per year.

If Bowen is continuing the bball series for the overall good of the athleticc program (READ: a football series w/ UT), then that's one thing, but he still needs to clue his bball coach into the discussions instead of publicly knee-capping him.

But if Bowen is just negotiating a basketball series, that is unacceptable. The basketball coach makes his schedule, the AD negotiates the games that the BBall coach wants. The Ole Miss thing was acceptable because, again, it came with a football deal.

How about firing Pastner and hiring a better coach?

I hope you're ready to produce some names for replacements if you want to suggest this.

I don't know. It's not my job to know. The person who is supposed to know is Tom Bowen... The one who obviously is showing Josh Pastner who's boss.

Exactly the response I was expecting.
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