(12-22-2012 01:03 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  I wish he hadn't got stuck on Aspergers. Obviously its important to him, but he had plenty of other nonsense out on the table to swat away.

Apparently Aspergers is going away next year. Just watched a clip on CNN by Gupta that he closed saying its now just going to be listed as a subset of autism. This will probably change the discussion some, since autism definitely gets a decent amount of public attention.

(12-22-2012 04:16 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  No one should be afraid to go to school.

Except for one bent on killing. Right now, they're definitely not afraid.

(12-22-2012 04:16 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 05:30 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 05:06 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  Shootings are "rare"? In 2012 alone there were 8 school shootings in the US. 41 people lost there lives in US school buildings this year.

Post Columbine there have been 77 school shootings. 164 people have lost their lives in school buildings post Columbine.

Every single day in this country, 1/2 of the Newton body count drowns ... most of them children at residential swimming pools. I don't see liberals yelling for pool control, do you?

That's because drowning is an inherent risk that comes with swimming. A school should be a place where kids, and adults, can go to learn. No one should be afraid to go to school.

No one should be afraid. It's the safest place for kids.

(12-22-2012 04:16 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  That's because drowning is an inherent risk that comes with swimming. A school should be a place where kids, and adults, can go to learn. No one should be afraid to go to school.

And that's pretty much what it is. You have to accept that criminals and crazies won't follow whatever rules you decree. That's the trouble with criminals and crazies ... they don't give a damn what you say is and isn't legal. That being said ... your car, your pool, lightning, your bathtub ... all more prevalent kid killers than schools.

(12-22-2012 08:02 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 04:16 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  That's because drowning is an inherent risk that comes with swimming. A school should be a place where kids, and adults, can go to learn. No one should be afraid to go to school.

And that's pretty much what it is. You have to accept that criminals and crazies won't follow whatever rules you decree.

NONSENSE! All you have to do is pass a NEW law and this time, label it "super-duper". They'll follow that one. Regular laws? Not so much. If you pass more, the criminals will start to follow them. Just add fearful names to them like "3-Strikes" or "In the commission of a crime", etc. That'll bring it down!

Jesus tap-dancing Christ, liberals are f*cking idiots.

This doesn't go on in other countries with strict gun laws. It's really that simple. Will it stop immediately? No. There are far too many firearms in the US for this to disappear soon after a new law is passed. In 100+ years the difference will start to be seen, but first measures need to be put in place.

There is no longer a need for guns. We don't need to hunt. We have markets stocked with food. We don't need to defend ourselves from other countries. We have a large and powerful standing military. Hell, guns are even becoming outdated in the military. Drones and robotics are where the present and future lie.

Mankind will progress whether you want it to or not.

(12-22-2012 11:02 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  There is no longer a need for guns. We don't need to hunt. We have markets stocked with food. We don't need to defend ourselves from other countries. We have a large and powerful standing military. Hell, guns are even becoming outdated in the military. Drones and robotics are where the present and future lie.

You don't understand the purpose of the 2nd Amendment.

(12-22-2012 11:13 PM)RaiderATO Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 11:02 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  There is no longer a need for guns. We don't need to hunt. We have markets stocked with food. We don't need to defend ourselves from other countries. We have a large and powerful standing military. Hell, guns are even becoming outdated in the military. Drones and robotics are where the present and future lie.

You don't understand the purpose of the 2nd Amendment.

We certainly don't need guns to protect us from our government. I didn't think I'd even need to bring something so stupid up.

(12-22-2012 11:02 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  This doesn't go on in other countries with strict gun laws. It's really that simple. Will it stop immediately? No. There are far too many firearms in the US for this to disappear soon after a new law is passed. In 100+ years the difference will start to be seen, but first measures need to be put in place.

There is no longer a need for guns. We don't need to hunt. We have markets stocked with food. We don't need to defend ourselves from other countries. We have a large and powerful standing military. Hell, guns are even becoming outdated in the military. Drones and robotics are where the present and future lie.

Mankind will progress whether you want it to or not.

Yeah, we'll have better weapons to kill with in the future. What's your point, its more civilized to let yourself be brutalized or killed by criminals than to have the right to defend yourself? Lay down and die strategy?

(12-22-2012 11:02 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  There is no longer a need for guns. We don't need to hunt. We have markets stocked with food. We don't need to defend ourselves from other countries.

And the thug accosting my wife or daughters in the supermarket parking lot?

(12-22-2012 11:15 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  We certainly don't need guns to protect us from our government. I didn't think I'd even need to bring something so stupid up.

Yes. Because govt. is good, and never commits atrocities against its own people... Right?

(12-22-2012 11:15 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  We certainly don't need guns to protect us from our government. I didn't think I'd even need to bring something so stupid up.

I feel certain in 1774-75 there were people living in the colonies that said the same thing.

Pretty sure they ended up being called Tories.

(12-22-2012 11:17 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 11:02 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  There is no longer a need for guns. We don't need to hunt. We have markets stocked with food. We don't need to defend ourselves from other countries.

And the thug accosting my wife or daughters in the supermarket parking lot?

Walk away? Dial 911? Yell for help?

No. Pull a gun out and put a bullet in his head.

(12-22-2012 11:22 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 11:17 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 11:02 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  There is no longer a need for guns. We don't need to hunt. We have markets stocked with food. We don't need to defend ourselves from other countries.

And the thug accosting my wife or daughters in the supermarket parking lot?

Walk away? Dial 911? Yell for help?

You're serious, aren't you?

(12-22-2012 11:22 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 11:17 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 11:02 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  There is no longer a need for guns. We don't need to hunt. We have markets stocked with food. We don't need to defend ourselves from other countries.

And the thug accosting my wife or daughters in the supermarket parking lot?

Walk away? Dial 911? Yell for help?

No. Pull a gun out and put a bullet in his head.

If the thug has a gun, YES!!!!!!!!!

If he doesn't have a gun then beat his ass.

It seems I've touched a nerve with the firearm enthusiasts. I'm not going to respond to all of you. We're going to be firing (pun intended) talking points back at each other. I'm going to be tapping out of the gun control debate you know my position, and I know yours.

That's cool. Your talking points are familiar as well.

Anyway, how do you ban something we've been making for nearly the past 70 years ("assault" rifles)?

Automatic handguns (100+ years)?

Any halfway decent machine shop has all the tools to make these weapons already and they'll just be easier to make in the future.

We gonna ban lathes?

Man's wife being accosted...

You seriously recommended walking away. What kind of nonsense EVEN IS THAT?

smh