This is equivalent to having an argument at book club over the main character in Oprah's latest pick.

(12-22-2012 03:48 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  This is equivalent to having an argument at book club over the main character in Oprah's latest pick.

You watch Oprah.

(12-22-2012 04:13 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 03:48 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  This is equivalent to having an argument at book club over the main character in Oprah's latest pick.

You watch Oprah.

At least we know Oprah is real. While I'm not an Oprah watcher, millions upon millions of women are. How did you righties do with the womens' vote in November? Oh yeah, they kicked you to curb.

(12-22-2012 02:24 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 01:09 PM)dcCid Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 11:59 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 11:40 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 08:05 AM)Paul M Wrote:  That's not what I was addressing.

my bad - when you said that there was a big book that quoted Jesus, I thought you were referring to the bible.

Yes, the Bible. No, that you could come to the belief that Jesus was a socialist by reading his words in it.

I will agree that I do not think Jesus would have been a socialist, but he would probably be a liberal progressive.

Oh really?

Where did he advocate government redistribution of wealth? Where did he advocate larger government at all?

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and render unto God the things that are God's," is about as far from socialism, or even progressive liberalism, as it is possible to get.

Jesus advocated charity, not socialism.

It's not really charity when the penalty is eternal damnation.

(12-22-2012 01:24 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 01:09 PM)dcCid Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 11:59 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 11:40 AM)dcCid Wrote:  

(12-21-2012 08:05 AM)Paul M Wrote:  That's not what I was addressing.

my bad - when you said that there was a big book that quoted Jesus, I thought you were referring to the bible.

Yes, the Bible. No, that you could come to the belief that Jesus was a socialist by reading his words in it.

If anything, Jesus was more conservative than I'm comfortable with.

Proceed Governor

(12-20-2012 07:31 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  I think it is hilarious that anyone says that Christ is a socialist. Really?

I wonder this myself. I think it comes from people who really want to establish their own definition of socialism.

1. : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

Nowhere did he advocate that. He said "Render unto Caesar..." because he was answering a question about whether or not it was right for Jews to pay taxes voluntarily.

(12-22-2012 04:24 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 02:24 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 01:09 PM)dcCid Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 11:59 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(12-22-2012 11:40 AM)dcCid Wrote:  my bad - when you said that there was a big book that quoted Jesus, I thought you were referring to the bible.

Yes, the Bible. No, that you could come to the belief that Jesus was a socialist by reading his words in it.

I will agree that I do not think Jesus would have been a socialist, but he would probably be a liberal progressive.

Oh really?

Where did he advocate government redistribution of wealth? Where did he advocate larger government at all?

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and render unto God the things that are God's," is about as far from socialism, or even progressive liberalism, as it is possible to get.

Jesus advocated charity, not socialism.

It's not really charity when the penalty is eternal damnation.

That isn't really the penalty for not being very charitable.

Eternal damnation is dealt to those who reject (the Holy Spirit) God. That's the only unforgivable sin.

Homosexuals can be with the Father. Prostitutes, thieves, etc. The Greek word for repent means "to change your mind". If they've changed their minds despite their natural inclinations, and follow Jesus, then BAM.

We try to do so much on our own strength. But we can't. Those of you doubting Jesus' existence, your arguments are really laughable because the Bible, unlike other documents, actually announces leaders, locations, people and events that can be historically verified.

(12-23-2012 08:54 AM)TampaKnight Wrote:  Eternal damnation is dealt to those who reject (the Holy Spirit) God. That's the only unforgivable sin.

Homosexuals can be with the Father. Prostitutes, thieves, etc. The Greek word for repent means "to change your mind". If they've changed their minds despite their natural inclinations, and follow Jesus, then BAM.

We try to do so much on our own strength. But we can't. Those of you doubting Jesus' existence, your arguments are really laughable because the Bible, unlike other documents, actually announces leaders, locations, people and events that can be historically verified.

When I die, I am going to be with worms, not with God or find myself in Hell.