(12-14-2012 12:59 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I think teachers should volunteer to intervene here. Have a Kevlar vest and a gun in lockdown drawer. I would even bet the NRA would fund it. I'm not joking and it could be an answer.

I'd be on board. There's no reason a trained teach couldn't be an asset in this situation. Even if all they end up doing is keeping the guy on the other side of a hallway corner and giving their students time to get out the door, its good enough for me.

New report: 27 dead. 18 children.

(12-14-2012 12:50 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:47 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:46 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:40 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Children have been shot and killed, and libs are making jokes and trying to score political points (and repeatedly misspelling "afraid"). It's times like this they show their true nature.

I am making fun of the gun toting nutjobs like you who think that if everyone had guns, this would not have happened.

But if no one can fight back then at what point does the shooter stop killing people?

How does he shoot without a gun?

The same way 14 year old inner city gang bangers do.

(12-14-2012 12:46 PM)T-Monay820 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:21 PM)RobertN Wrote:  THis would not have happened! If the gunman would have known that the teachers were packing heat, he would not have done this!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50200610

Clearly all those Gun-Free Zone signs worked like magic!

Gun Free Zone = Invitation from these murdering wackos.
They target schools, colleges, malls, wherever they think they
can do the most damage fast.

(12-14-2012 12:40 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Children have been shot and killed, and libs are making jokes and trying to score political points (and repeatedly misspelling "afraid"). It's times like this they show their true nature.

Indeed.

(12-14-2012 01:17 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:40 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Children have been shot and killed, and libs are making jokes and trying to score political points (and repeatedly misspelling "afraid"). It's times like this they show their true nature.

Indeed.

As I said, I am laughing at your stupid ass not the situation.

(12-14-2012 01:06 PM)RobertN Wrote:  New report: 27 dead. 18 children.

Jesus. I listened to a lecture LTC Dave Grossman, who's done a lot of study on the shooting at Beslan, and one of his biggest concerns is the vulnerability of our schools. Not trying to make light of this situation, but our mentality is that when shootings occur, they are rare incidents from an individual. So that is much easier to move on from and to chalk it up as a fluke or anomaly. But imagine if this were an organized attack? How do you think America would react if Beslan occurred here? We'd be absolutely paralyzed as a nation. Every time a shooting happens, this lecture always jumps back into my mind.

(12-14-2012 01:18 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:17 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:40 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Children have been shot and killed, and libs are making jokes and trying to score political points (and repeatedly misspelling "afraid"). It's times like this they show their true nature.

Indeed.

As I said, I am laughing at your stupid ass not the situation.

Still, you're the only one who can laugh.

(12-14-2012 01:18 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:17 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:40 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Children have been shot and killed, and libs are making jokes and trying to score political points (and repeatedly misspelling "afraid"). It's times like this they show their true nature.

Indeed.

As I said, I am laughing at your stupid ass not the situation.

You are a single piece of sh!T that lives in a one bedroom section 8 apartment, works for minimum wage, has the deductive reasoning ability of a 5 year old and couldn't get by without the government tit loser. You add nothing of value to this country or to humanity in general.

Your life is so pathetic you have to use a tragedy like this to attack people you've never met on an internet messageboard. You are part of the lowest common denominator of human existence. If you disappeared tomorrow no one would notice and you'd be remembered for nothing.

Children are dead and your first reaction is to attack those that disagree with you. And make no mistake about it Robert you can call others "dumb" all you want but in reality you know as well as we do that you are by far the most ignorant son of a ***** on the internet. You are worthless in every way, shape and form.

(12-14-2012 01:23 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:18 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:17 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:40 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Children have been shot and killed, and libs are making jokes and trying to score political points (and repeatedly misspelling "afraid"). It's times like this they show their true nature.

Indeed.

As I said, I am laughing at your stupid ass not the situation.

You are a single piece of **** that lives in a one bedroom section 8 apartment, works for minimum wage, has the deductive reasoning ability of a 5 year old and couldn't get by without the government tit loser. You add nothing of value to this country or to humanity in general.

Your life is so pathetic you have to use a tragedy like this to attack people you've never met on an internet messageboard. You are part of the lowest common denominator of human existence. If you disappeared tomorrow no one would notice and you'd be remembered for nothing.

Children are dead and your first reaction is to attack those that disagree with you. And make no mistake about it Robert you can call others "dumb" all you want but in reality you know as well as we do that you are by far the most ignorant son of a ***** on the internet. You are worthless in every way, shape and form.

:clap2:

All teachers should be armed and trained. My sister teaches HS English, I'd feel better if she were ready for any attack. We've made our schools soft targets, the only way to fix that is to harden them.

(12-14-2012 01:23 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:18 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:17 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:40 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Children have been shot and killed, and libs are making jokes and trying to score political points (and repeatedly misspelling "afraid"). It's times like this they show their true nature.

Indeed.

As I said, I am laughing at your stupid ass not the situation.

You are a single piece of **** that lives in a one bedroom section 8 apartment, works for minimum wage, has the deductive reasoning ability of a 5 year old and couldn't get by without the government tit loser. You add nothing of value to this country or to humanity in general.

Your life is so pathetic you have to use a tragedy like this to attack people you've never met on an internet messageboard. You are part of the lowest common denominator of human existence. If you disappeared tomorrow no one would notice and you'd be remembered for nothing.

Children are dead and your first reaction is to attack those that disagree with you. And make no mistake about it Robert you can call others "dumb" all you want but in reality you know as well as we do that you are by far the most ignorant son of a ***** on the internet. You are worthless in every way, shape and form.

Wrong on all accounts but thanks. Maybe we need to make schools fortresses. Of course, the problem is that you would refuse to pay the taxes needed for that to happen.

(12-14-2012 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:23 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:18 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:17 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:40 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Children have been shot and killed, and libs are making jokes and trying to score political points (and repeatedly misspelling "afraid"). It's times like this they show their true nature.

Indeed.

As I said, I am laughing at your stupid ass not the situation.

You are a single piece of **** that lives in a one bedroom section 8 apartment, works for minimum wage, has the deductive reasoning ability of a 5 year old and couldn't get by without the government tit loser. You add nothing of value to this country or to humanity in general.

Your life is so pathetic you have to use a tragedy like this to attack people you've never met on an internet messageboard. You are part of the lowest common denominator of human existence. If you disappeared tomorrow no one would notice and you'd be remembered for nothing.

Children are dead and your first reaction is to attack those that disagree with you. And make no mistake about it Robert you can call others "dumb" all you want but in reality you know as well as we do that you are by far the most ignorant son of a ***** on the internet. You are worthless in every way, shape and form.

Wrong on all accounts but thanks. Maybe we need to make schools fortresses. Of course, the problem is that you would refuse to pay the taxes needed for that to happen.

Schools shouldn't be fortresses, the people in them should be fortified in their person.

"an armed society is a polite society" - Robert Heinlein

(12-14-2012 01:31 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:23 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:18 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:17 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  Indeed.

As I said, I am laughing at your stupid ass not the situation.

You are a single piece of **** that lives in a one bedroom section 8 apartment, works for minimum wage, has the deductive reasoning ability of a 5 year old and couldn't get by without the government tit loser. You add nothing of value to this country or to humanity in general.

Your life is so pathetic you have to use a tragedy like this to attack people you've never met on an internet messageboard. You are part of the lowest common denominator of human existence. If you disappeared tomorrow no one would notice and you'd be remembered for nothing.

Children are dead and your first reaction is to attack those that disagree with you. And make no mistake about it Robert you can call others "dumb" all you want but in reality you know as well as we do that you are by far the most ignorant son of a ***** on the internet. You are worthless in every way, shape and form.

Wrong on all accounts but thanks. Maybe we need to make schools fortresses. Of course, the problem is that you would refuse to pay the taxes needed for that to happen.

Schools shouldn't be fortresses, the people in them should be fortified in their person.

"an armed society is a polite society" - Robert Heinlein

Homeschooling makes sense on several levels.

(12-14-2012 12:40 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Children have been shot and killed, and libs are making jokes and trying to score political points (and repeatedly misspelling "afraid"). It's times like this they show their true nature.

Oh STFU Mr. exploit the death of the ambassador in Benghazi non-stop for a month to score cheap political points.

That being said...I agree with you. This is nothing to joke about...and so far it's only 2 of us...not all of us, thank you very much.

(12-14-2012 01:35 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:31 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:23 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 01:18 PM)RobertN Wrote:  As I said, I am laughing at your stupid ass not the situation.

You are a single piece of **** that lives in a one bedroom section 8 apartment, works for minimum wage, has the deductive reasoning ability of a 5 year old and couldn't get by without the government tit loser. You add nothing of value to this country or to humanity in general.

Your life is so pathetic you have to use a tragedy like this to attack people you've never met on an internet messageboard. You are part of the lowest common denominator of human existence. If you disappeared tomorrow no one would notice and you'd be remembered for nothing.

Children are dead and your first reaction is to attack those that disagree with you. And make no mistake about it Robert you can call others "dumb" all you want but in reality you know as well as we do that you are by far the most ignorant son of a ***** on the internet. You are worthless in every way, shape and form.

Wrong on all accounts but thanks. Maybe we need to make schools fortresses. Of course, the problem is that you would refuse to pay the taxes needed for that to happen.

Schools shouldn't be fortresses, the people in them should be fortified in their person.

"an armed society is a polite society" - Robert Heinlein

Feel free to live in your fantasy world where the NannyState protects you from the bad guys and tucks you in every night. Hope you never have to leave that world cause the real one is cold and brutal if you're not prepared to face it.

(12-14-2012 01:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 12:40 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  Children have been shot and killed, and libs are making jokes and trying to score political points (and repeatedly misspelling "afraid"). It's times like this they show their true nature.

Oh STFU Mr. exploit the death of the ambassador in Benghazi non-stop for a month to score cheap political points.

Apparently you don't understand that involved the actual responsibilities of the job of the president and his staff (not to be confused with playing golf, selling insurance and community organizing). Please stop voting.

Here is what I am hearing. THis was set up by Obama in order to ban guns!

(12-14-2012 12:21 PM)RobertN Wrote:  THis would not have happened! If the gunman would have known that the teachers were packing heat, he would not have done this!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50200610

We can all be horrified, but I'm not surprised. Why should I be? This attack, while particularly awful, isn't inconsistent with the massive number of multiple fatality shootings with high capacity firearms. Everytime something like this happens, everyone says "what a tragedy" and then proceeds to do NOTHING to stop the next attack. What we are doing is NOT working guys.

This is the second attack, THIS WEEK.

Again, be horrified, but don't be surprised. And I'll be horrified when the next one of these largely mitagatable attacks happens. But I won't be surprised.

And no the answer isn't to give firearms to 5 year olds so they can shoot back.