(12-13-2012 01:00 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  Lets hope Tulsa, USM, Rice, UTEP, UAB, and Marshall are tied at the hip. Probably not but it would be really nice to see us stand by each other.

That would be nice, but money will blind the few and weaking the chain.

I hope UAB has some dog in the hunt. Unfortunately, while everyone is running free to hunt, we're tied to a leash and kicked for not running fast enough by our own BOT.

Go Irish!!

I feel bad for theprograms that left c-usa for the big east. I know people want to see them fail, but they made the jump for the better of their programs which every program in the country would do. Hopefully itll work out for you guys, just like I hope UTEP comes out of realignment BS set up.

(12-13-2012 01:08 PM)PredatorUTEP Wrote:  I feel bad for theprograms that left c-usa for the big east. I know people want to see them fail, but they made the jump for the better of their programs which every program in the country would do. Hopefully itll work out for you guys, just like I hope UTEP comes out of realignment BS set up.

Yeah Tulane got screwed and made a scapegoat.

I really feel sorry for Memphis, Houston, and SMU.

did I forget anyone...uhm...no. no I didn't

The basketball schools can take the BE name because they had a majority of the voting privilages. That means the leftover football schools including the new invites have no conference name, no tv package, no bowl tie ins. LOLOLOLOLOL! I am loving this.

If I were the CUSA, SB and MAC brass - I'd tell the defectors to go to hell. Especially after whoring themselves out.

The UCF Whores? That sounds about right -on many fronts. lol!

You chase the money and you'll get burned every time - sooner or later.

(12-13-2012 12:40 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  Guess:

SDSU, Boise, and Navy bolts
Tulsa, USM, Marshall added as full members
any football-only members left become full members

Which leaves Rice, UTEP, and UAB to share a three-way split of the conference exit-fees/loot, right?

(12-13-2012 01:03 PM)Big Dub Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 01:00 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  Lets hope Tulsa, USM, Rice, UTEP, UAB, and Marshall are tied at the hip. Probably not but it would be really nice to see us stand by each other.

Airport meeting, NOW!

I can't figure out which airport anymore or who would be invited, lol.

(12-13-2012 01:18 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  The basketball schools can take the BE name because they had a majority of the voting privilages. That means the leftover football schools including the new invites have no conference name, no tv package, no bowl tie ins. LOLOLOLOLOL! I am loving this.

If I were the CUSA, SB and MAC brass - I'd tell the defectors to go to hell. Especially after whoring themselves out.

The UCF Whores? That sounds about right -on many fronts. lol!

You chase the money and you'll get burned every time - sooner or later.

I don't think that you will have to worry about most of us "coming back". What you will most likely see is a new conference made up of the "best of the rest" or something akin to the "Merlliance".

(12-13-2012 11:42 AM)chavster Wrote:  http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/b...wF80US3G6H

(12-13-2012 01:18 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  The basketball schools can take the BE name because they had a majority of the voting privilages. That means the leftover football schools including the new invites have no conference name, no tv package, no bowl tie ins. LOLOLOLOLOL! I am loving this.

If I were the CUSA, SB and MAC brass - I'd tell the defectors to go to hell. Especially after whoring themselves out.

The UCF Whores? That sounds about right -on many fronts. lol!

You chase the money and you'll get burned every time - sooner or later.

You do realize this isn't good for the CUSA either... right? I've said from day one, i'm a huge advocate and loved CUSA and will never say a disrespectful word. But the football/basketball/ and markets of UH, UConn, USF, Cincy, UCF, UM, Tulane, Temple, and SMU are far superior to that of Charlotte, FAU, FIU, Ltech, Marshall, MTSU, NTU, ODU, USM, Tulsa, UAB, UTEP, UTSA.

Say what you will, but I will choose the teams that left over the teams that did not. And I would might near gaurentee that IF ANY of these teams were offered to join the group, they would jump in two seconds. What was the big east, is now three BE left overs and CUSA and MWC teams combined. What is now CUSA is a majority sunbelt teams with a few remaining CUSA teams.

Again, laugh at the current situation all you want, but it will cause more shifting in the landscape I can assure you.

As for teams whoring themselves out, NO ONE on this board's team would not have done the same. Every university tries to better their position. As a matter of fact i'm pretty sure a few years ago, Marshall did the same to join CUSA. That's collegiate sports.

(12-13-2012 02:00 PM)adluther Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 01:18 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  The basketball schools can take the BE name because they had a majority of the voting privilages. That means the leftover football schools including the new invites have no conference name, no tv package, no bowl tie ins. LOLOLOLOLOL! I am loving this.

If I were the CUSA, SB and MAC brass - I'd tell the defectors to go to hell. Especially after whoring themselves out.

The UCF Whores? That sounds about right -on many fronts. lol!

You chase the money and you'll get burned every time - sooner or later.

You do realize this isn't good for the CUSA either... right? I've said from day one, i'm a huge advocate and loved CUSA and will never say a disrespectful word. But the football/basketball/ and markets of UH, UConn, USF, Cincy, UCF, UM, Tulane, Temple, and SMU are far superior to that of Charlotte, FAU, FIU, Ltech, Marshall, MTSU, NTU, ODU, USM, Tulsa, UAB, UTEP, UTSA.

Say what you will, but I will choose the teams that left over the teams that did not. And I would might near gaurentee that IF ANY of these teams were offered to join the group, they would jump in two seconds. What was the big east, is now three BE left overs and CUSA and MWC teams combined. What is now CUSA is a majority sunbelt teams with a few remaining CUSA teams.

Again, laugh at the current situation all you want, but it will cause more shifting in the landscape I can assure you.

As for teams whoring themselves out, NO ONE on this board's team would not have done the same. Every university tries to better their position. As a matter of fact i'm pretty sure a few years ago, Marshall did the same to join CUSA. That's collegiate sports.

It's not about competition it's about money and bowl bids/autobids and the Big Least will have none if it exists. So, no, nobody is going to join that dumpster fire and risk not having a conference. Nobody wants to be Idaho or NMSU.

(12-13-2012 02:05 PM)TheNorthTexan Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 02:00 PM)adluther Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 01:18 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  The basketball schools can take the BE name because they had a majority of the voting privilages. That means the leftover football schools including the new invites have no conference name, no tv package, no bowl tie ins. LOLOLOLOLOL! I am loving this.

If I were the CUSA, SB and MAC brass - I'd tell the defectors to go to hell. Especially after whoring themselves out.

The UCF Whores? That sounds about right -on many fronts. lol!

You chase the money and you'll get burned every time - sooner or later.

You do realize this isn't good for the CUSA either... right? I've said from day one, i'm a huge advocate and loved CUSA and will never say a disrespectful word. But the football/basketball/ and markets of UH, UConn, USF, Cincy, UCF, UM, Tulane, Temple, and SMU are far superior to that of Charlotte, FAU, FIU, Ltech, Marshall, MTSU, NTU, ODU, USM, Tulsa, UAB, UTEP, UTSA.

Say what you will, but I will choose the teams that left over the teams that did not. And I would might near gaurentee that IF ANY of these teams were offered to join the group, they would jump in two seconds. What was the big east, is now three BE left overs and CUSA and MWC teams combined. What is now CUSA is a majority sunbelt teams with a few remaining CUSA teams.

Again, laugh at the current situation all you want, but it will cause more shifting in the landscape I can assure you.

As for teams whoring themselves out, NO ONE on this board's team would not have done the same. Every university tries to better their position. As a matter of fact i'm pretty sure a few years ago, Marshall did the same to join CUSA. That's collegiate sports.

It's not about competition it's about money and bowl bids/autobids and the Big Least will have none if it exists. So, no, nobody is going to join that dumpster fire and risk not having a conference. Nobody wants to be Idaho or NMSU.

Take off your green glasses and you will see. Just hang around for a little and watch. Essentially what was the nBE will be a newer version of CUSA. You will be back in a newer version of the sunbelt.

(12-13-2012 02:15 PM)adluther Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 02:05 PM)TheNorthTexan Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 02:00 PM)adluther Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 01:18 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  The basketball schools can take the BE name because they had a majority of the voting privilages. That means the leftover football schools including the new invites have no conference name, no tv package, no bowl tie ins. LOLOLOLOLOL! I am loving this.

If I were the CUSA, SB and MAC brass - I'd tell the defectors to go to hell. Especially after whoring themselves out.

The UCF Whores? That sounds about right -on many fronts. lol!

You chase the money and you'll get burned every time - sooner or later.

You do realize this isn't good for the CUSA either... right? I've said from day one, i'm a huge advocate and loved CUSA and will never say a disrespectful word. But the football/basketball/ and markets of UH, UConn, USF, Cincy, UCF, UM, Tulane, Temple, and SMU are far superior to that of Charlotte, FAU, FIU, Ltech, Marshall, MTSU, NTU, ODU, USM, Tulsa, UAB, UTEP, UTSA.

Say what you will, but I will choose the teams that left over the teams that did not. And I would might near gaurentee that IF ANY of these teams were offered to join the group, they would jump in two seconds. What was the big east, is now three BE left overs and CUSA and MWC teams combined. What is now CUSA is a majority sunbelt teams with a few remaining CUSA teams.

Again, laugh at the current situation all you want, but it will cause more shifting in the landscape I can assure you.

As for teams whoring themselves out, NO ONE on this board's team would not have done the same. Every university tries to better their position. As a matter of fact i'm pretty sure a few years ago, Marshall did the same to join CUSA. That's collegiate sports.

It's not about competition it's about money and bowl bids/autobids and the Big Least will have none if it exists. So, no, nobody is going to join that dumpster fire and risk not having a conference. Nobody wants to be Idaho or NMSU.

Take off your green glasses and you will see. Just hang around for a little and watch. Essentially what was the nBE will be a newer version of CUSA. You will be back in a newer version of the sunbelt.

Not really, I honestly wish we wouldn't have gotten involved in this crap and waited to end up in the best position possible. You are like a child pounding on the table, upset that his parents caught him in a lie...the nBE is a moneyless DOA conference...

(12-13-2012 12:41 PM)BlazerFromMD Wrote:  

Without trying to pile on...I imagine THIS is how the Big East office environment changed upon the news breaking:

http://youtu.be/8az6m8qgYeI?t=6s

(12-13-2012 02:00 PM)adluther Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 01:18 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  The basketball schools can take the BE name because they had a majority of the voting privilages. That means the leftover football schools including the new invites have no conference name, no tv package, no bowl tie ins. LOLOLOLOLOL! I am loving this.

If I were the CUSA, SB and MAC brass - I'd tell the defectors to go to hell. Especially after whoring themselves out.

The UCF Whores? That sounds about right -on many fronts. lol!

You chase the money and you'll get burned every time - sooner or later.

You do realize this isn't good for the CUSA either... right? I've said from day one, i'm a huge advocate and loved CUSA and will never say a disrespectful word. But the football/basketball/ and markets of UH, UConn, USF, Cincy, UCF, UM, Tulane, Temple, and SMU are far superior to that of Charlotte, FAU, FIU, Ltech, Marshall, MTSU, NTU, ODU, USM, Tulsa, UAB, UTEP, UTSA.

Say what you will, but I will choose the teams that left over the teams that did not. And I would might near gaurentee that IF ANY of these teams were offered to join the group, they would jump in two seconds. What was the big east, is now three BE left overs and CUSA and MWC teams combined. What is now CUSA is a majority sunbelt teams with a few remaining CUSA teams.

Again, laugh at the current situation all you want, but it will cause more shifting in the landscape I can assure you.

As for teams whoring themselves out, NO ONE on this board's team would not have done the same. Every university tries to better their position. As a matter of fact i'm pretty sure a few years ago, Marshall did the same to join CUSA. That's collegiate sports.

No amount of 'but I like C-USA' is going to be enough to mask what you're trying to do here. Besides, its the Big East board that needs to be talked off the ledge.

Go preach to the believers so they'll still believe, reverend.

(12-13-2012 02:05 PM)TheNorthTexan Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 02:00 PM)adluther Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 01:18 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  The basketball schools can take the BE name because they had a majority of the voting privilages. That means the leftover football schools including the new invites have no conference name, no tv package, no bowl tie ins. LOLOLOLOLOL! I am loving this.

If I were the CUSA, SB and MAC brass - I'd tell the defectors to go to hell. Especially after whoring themselves out.

The UCF Whores? That sounds about right -on many fronts. lol!

You chase the money and you'll get burned every time - sooner or later.

You do realize this isn't good for the CUSA either... right? I've said from day one, i'm a huge advocate and loved CUSA and will never say a disrespectful word. But the football/basketball/ and markets of UH, UConn, USF, Cincy, UCF, UM, Tulane, Temple, and SMU are far superior to that of Charlotte, FAU, FIU, Ltech, Marshall, MTSU, NTU, ODU, USM, Tulsa, UAB, UTEP, UTSA.

Say what you will, but I will choose the teams that left over the teams that did not. And I would might near gaurentee that IF ANY of these teams were offered to join the group, they would jump in two seconds. What was the big east, is now three BE left overs and CUSA and MWC teams combined. What is now CUSA is a majority sunbelt teams with a few remaining CUSA teams.

Again, laugh at the current situation all you want, but it will cause more shifting in the landscape I can assure you.

As for teams whoring themselves out, NO ONE on this board's team would not have done the same. Every university tries to better their position. As a matter of fact i'm pretty sure a few years ago, Marshall did the same to join CUSA. That's collegiate sports.

It's not about competition it's about money and bowl bids/autobids and the Big Least will have none if it exists. So, no, nobody is going to join that dumpster fire and risk not having a conference. Nobody wants to be Idaho or NMSU.

The bowls are not going to stay with CUSA. The Liberty Bowl; Car Care Bowl and probably all of the current bowls that the Big East has will be staying with the BE football schools. Do you really think that the Bowls are going to chance some CUSA team qualifying for their bowl and then bringing all of 50 fans?

Fans of the former nBE schools can talk all they want. Your administrations are hopefully smart enough to realize the very difficult road it would be to attempt to piecemeal a conference together, seek the waiver, and try to finalize bowl agreements/TV deals in such a short amount of time and with such uncertainty.

No matter how low some of you perceive the new look CUSA, right now, I guarantee it is appealing to your administrators because we have much more stability (TV deal, bowl agreements, etc) at the moment than the nBE (which essentially will soon not exist).

(12-13-2012 02:32 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  The bowls are not going to stay with CUSA. The Liberty Bowl; Car Care Bowl and probably all of the current bowls that the Big East has will be staying with the BE football schools. Do you really think that the Bowls are going to chance some CUSA team qualifying for their bowl and then bringing all of 50 fans?

So they're going to stay with a non-existant conference?

They're running as we speak to the Big 12, SEC, Big 10, ACC and maybe C-USA.

(12-13-2012 02:38 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  Fans of the former nBE schools can talk all they want. Your administrations are hopefully smart enough to realize the very difficult road it would be to attempt to piecemeal a conference together, seek the waiver, and try to finalize bowl agreements/TV deals in such a short amount of time and with such uncertainty.

No matter how low some of you perceive the new look CUSA, right now, I guarantee it is appealing to your administrators because we have much more stability (TV deal, bowl agreements, etc) at the moment than the nBE (which essentially will soon not exist).

What timeline are you considering? I don't see how the BE dissolves prior to the summer of 2014 and 18 months should be enough to work out TV deals, bowls, etc.

Tee heee. Loving it.

(12-13-2012 02:44 PM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 02:38 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  Fans of the former nBE schools can talk all they want. Your administrations are hopefully smart enough to realize the very difficult road it would be to attempt to piecemeal a conference together, seek the waiver, and try to finalize bowl agreements/TV deals in such a short amount of time and with such uncertainty.

No matter how low some of you perceive the new look CUSA, right now, I guarantee it is appealing to your administrators because we have much more stability (TV deal, bowl agreements, etc) at the moment than the nBE (which essentially will soon not exist).

What timeline are you considering? I don't see how the BE dissolves prior to the summer of 2014 and 18 months should be enough to work out TV deals, bowls, etc.

Again, you're talking about trying to convince other teams to join you in a league that technically doesn't exist, has no TV deal, no bowl agreements, and no NCAA waiver in hand... and a league where several additional members (Cinci and UConn) are willing to leave at the drop of a hat.

Face it. CUSA right now offers a whole lot more in stability. You can claim that some programs in the group of what will remain after dissolution have an appeal or marketability, and to some degree that may be true.

But that will be a big leap for any school (whether it be USM, Marshall, UAB, or whoever) to make in trying to commit to such an uncertain future in a league that basically does not exist in the eyes of college athletics.