Why are the owners of Chik Fil A not allowed to express their views on homosexual marriage but several other companies are allowed to stress their support for gay marriage? ITs the leftist hypocrisy again.

fsquid's image says it all:

From Max's link:
http://www.brandindex.com/article/chick-...ood-eaters

Quote:Chick-Fil-A's perception with fast food eaters nationwide has taken a significant hit in most regions of the US [...]

As the controversy has snowballed, the company's overall consumer brand health with fast food eaters has dropped to its lowest levels since at least mid-August 2010.

If the drop was so significant, I wouldn't have expected it's score to match what it was less than 2 years ago. I mean, what happened in August 2010?

(08-01-2012 12:04 PM)Max Power Wrote:  

(07-31-2012 04:40 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  Of course their brand took a hit! You can't publicly jump into the culture wars without expecting to upset half of the culture war fighters.

Yeah, but wouldn't that effect be offset by the other half which embraces you as a result? Or maybe the takeaway is it's not half and half.

People tend to react more strongly to something they find as negative than if they find as something positive. i.e., If your hotel service exceeded your expectations, you'll probably tell 5 people and that's about it. But if you had rotten service, you're more likely to tell 50 people and write a novel on Trip Advisor bashing the hotel.

(08-01-2012 03:21 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Why are the owners of Chik Fil A not allowed to express their views on homosexual marriage but several other companies are allowed to stress their support for gay marriage? ITs the leftist hypocrisy again.

Please cite one person who has said that the owner of CFA is not allowed to express his views?

(08-01-2012 04:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 03:21 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Why are the owners of Chik Fil A not allowed to express their views on homosexual marriage but several other companies are allowed to stress their support for gay marriage? ITs the leftist hypocrisy again.

Please cite one person who has said that the owner of CFA is not allowed to express his views?

Sorry, I was trying to get some work done and just threw that up there.

Why isnt Chik Fil A allowed to express their views which are completely legal and rational without some nationally organized "kiss-in" or a bunch of media whack jobs making this some sort of bigotry? Why was Apple allowed to embrace homosexual marriage without the Conservative media blasting them for being immoral spineless cowards?

(08-01-2012 04:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 03:21 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Why are the owners of Chik Fil A not allowed to express their views on homosexual marriage but several other companies are allowed to stress their support for gay marriage? ITs the leftist hypocrisy again.

Please cite one person who has said that the owner of CFA is not allowed to express his views?

Rahm Emanuel, Thomas Menino.

(08-01-2012 04:05 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 03:21 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Why are the owners of Chik Fil A not allowed to express their views on homosexual marriage but several other companies are allowed to stress their support for gay marriage? ITs the leftist hypocrisy again.

Please cite one person who has said that the owner of CFA is not allowed to express his views?

Sorry, I was trying to get some work done and just threw that up there.

Why isnt Chik Fil A allowed to express their views which are completely legal and rational without some nationally organized "kiss-in" or a bunch of media whack jobs making this some sort of bigotry? Why was Apple allowed to embrace homosexual marriage without the Conservative media blasting them for being immoral spineless cowards?

They like their I-phones and I-pads?

Again, I don't see the "media whack jobs" jumping all over CFA here. They're mostly only covering the stupid politicians trying to make hay over it.

Regardless, while the CFA guy can say whatever he wants the national gay rights groups are also free to say whatever they want.

(08-01-2012 04:06 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 03:21 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Why are the owners of Chik Fil A not allowed to express their views on homosexual marriage but several other companies are allowed to stress their support for gay marriage? ITs the leftist hypocrisy again.

Please cite one person who has said that the owner of CFA is not allowed to express his views?

Rahm Emanuel, Thomas Menino.

bull**** Rebel. You're just making stuff up. AGAIN! They said nothing of the sort. Again, if the CEO is going to spout off his views publicly they are too. I don't happen to agree with them, but nowhere did they say the guy was not allowed to express himself!

(07-25-2012 04:35 PM)Max Power Wrote:  What an idiot this CEO is. They're opening one in Peoria in a couple months and if people are picketing it I just might join them.

Anyway, you already know about Boston, Chicago, NYC etc threatening bans of HFA. But the Jim Henson Company, which was making Muppet toys for HFA kids meals, decided to join them in the outrage and released this statement:

Quote:The Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over fifty years and we have notified Chick-Fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors. Lisa Henson, our CEO is personally a strong supporter of gay marriage and has directed us to donate the payment we received from Chick-Fil-A to GLAAD.

... after which HFA starts posting this in windows, and alerting parents that Muppet toys are a "potential safety concern":



Either this is an astounding coincidence or HFA is run by Mitt Romney's campaign managers.

You are a typical left wing nut.You are just mad that you and your boyfriend will not be able to go there now.Oh by the way went today in support for chick-fil-a and it was packed with cars wrapped around the building at the drive-through.The other one we went by was busier.So max you and your 10 girly men can protest it friday.

(08-01-2012 04:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:06 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 03:21 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Why are the owners of Chik Fil A not allowed to express their views on homosexual marriage but several other companies are allowed to stress their support for gay marriage? ITs the leftist hypocrisy again.

Please cite one person who has said that the owner of CFA is not allowed to express his views?

Rahm Emanuel, Thomas Menino.

bull**** Rebel. You're just making stuff up. AGAIN! They said nothing of the sort. Again, if the CEO is going to spout off his views publicly they are too. I don't happen to agree with them, but nowhere did they say the guy was not allowed to express himself!

Now who is making stuff up? Cathy was cornered by a democrat with a question about homosexual marriage to which he answered. He didn't call a press conference or "publicly spout off his views"

Thomas Menino:

Quote:
“I was angry to learn on the heels of your prejudiced statements about your search for a site to locate in Boston,” the letter reads. “There is no place for discrimination on Boston’s Freedom Trail and no place for your company alongside it.”

Coming from a guy in a position to affect where/if CFA lands a franchise in Boston, I'd say he DID say you can't say that.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/071...z22KdJUcVr

(08-01-2012 04:21 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:06 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 03:21 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Why are the owners of Chik Fil A not allowed to express their views on homosexual marriage but several other companies are allowed to stress their support for gay marriage? ITs the leftist hypocrisy again.

Please cite one person who has said that the owner of CFA is not allowed to express his views?

Rahm Emanuel, Thomas Menino.

bull**** Rebel. You're just making stuff up. AGAIN! They said nothing of the sort. Again, if the CEO is going to spout off his views publicly they are too. I don't happen to agree with them, but nowhere did they say the guy was not allowed to express himself!

Now who is making stuff up? Cathy was cornered by a democrat with a question about homosexual marriage to which he answered. He didn't call a press conference or "publicly spout off his views"

Apparently you. Geez! Where do you fools keep coming from...lol

The comments were made on The Ken Coleman radio show during an invited interview.

After he was specifically asked that question.

(08-01-2012 04:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:06 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 03:21 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Why are the owners of Chik Fil A not allowed to express their views on homosexual marriage but several other companies are allowed to stress their support for gay marriage? ITs the leftist hypocrisy again.

Please cite one person who has said that the owner of CFA is not allowed to express his views?

Rahm Emanuel, Thomas Menino.

bull**** Rebel. You're just making stuff up. AGAIN! They said nothing of the sort. Again, if the CEO is going to spout off his views publicly they are too. I don't happen to agree with them, but nowhere did they say the guy was not allowed to express himself!

When the mayor of a city says... Because of what he said he wont be able to open a restaurant in my city he is pretty much saying that "he owner of CFA is not allowed to express his views"

And they backed off a bit, claiming they would only send a letter to people that might lease them the land to set up. I'm sure in typical Chicago style politics that frequent visits from inspectors will also come up.

(08-01-2012 04:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:06 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 03:21 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  Why are the owners of Chik Fil A not allowed to express their views on homosexual marriage but several other companies are allowed to stress their support for gay marriage? ITs the leftist hypocrisy again.

Please cite one person who has said that the owner of CFA is not allowed to express his views?

Rahm Emanuel, Thomas Menino.

bull**** Rebel. You're just making stuff up. AGAIN! They said nothing of the sort. Again, if the CEO is going to spout off his views publicly they are too. I don't happen to agree with them, but nowhere did they say the guy was not allowed to express himself!

Curious how you like to pick nits for other people's posts, then make gross mistakes in your own.

(08-01-2012 04:36 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:21 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:06 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 04:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Please cite one person who has said that the owner of CFA is not allowed to express his views?

Rahm Emanuel, Thomas Menino.

bull**** Rebel. You're just making stuff up. AGAIN! They said nothing of the sort. Again, if the CEO is going to spout off his views publicly they are too. I don't happen to agree with them, but nowhere did they say the guy was not allowed to express himself!

Now who is making stuff up? Cathy was cornered by a democrat with a question about homosexual marriage to which he answered. He didn't call a press conference or "publicly spout off his views"

Apparently you. Geez! Where do you fools keep coming from...lol

The comments were made on The Ken Coleman radio show during an invited interview.

Not too mention, the people truly upset about this aren't upset over him stating his views; who gives a damn what he thinks? They're upset because the success of chik-fil-a allows him the ability to throw millions to patently anti-homosexual groups. It's not his speech that I care about, it's the fact that the money he spends on those causes can be traced fairly easily to the money I spend on his delicious sandwiches.

Quote:It's not his speech that I care about, it's the fact that the money he spends on those causes can be traced fairly easily to the money I spend on his delicious sandwiches.

How hard is it to understand, it's his money... he can give it to whatever groups he wants to throw it to.... Oh wait, not in the land of the left, you can only give money to groups that are liberal / left-leaning causes.

In fact, that's the ONLY issue .. if the Boston and Chicago mayors had kept their traps shut, NONE of this would have been an issue.

And by the way, the original comments from Cathy were to a Baptist newsletter, not to a radio show (originally)...

(08-01-2012 11:24 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

Quote:It's not his speech that I care about, it's the fact that the money he spends on those causes can be traced fairly easily to the money I spend on his delicious sandwiches.

How hard is it to understand, it's his money... he can give it to whatever groups he wants to throw it to.... Oh wait, not in the land of the left, you can only give money to groups that are liberal / left-leaning causes.

In fact, that's the ONLY issue .. if the Boston and Chicago mayors had kept their traps shut, NONE of this would have been an issue.

And by the way, the original comments from Cathy were to a Baptist newsletter, not to a radio show (originally)...

Wait, you think that the person who is choosing to not spend his money at a restaurant which spends their money on causes he doesn't support doesn't understand that the owner has the right to spend his money to support the causes he wants? Do you realize just how idiotic that statement is? You're literally saying I don't understand a process which I am consciously taking an active role in.

My head, it hurts.

(08-01-2012 11:41 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-01-2012 11:24 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

Quote:It's not his speech that I care about, it's the fact that the money he spends on those causes can be traced fairly easily to the money I spend on his delicious sandwiches.

How hard is it to understand, it's his money... he can give it to whatever groups he wants to throw it to.... Oh wait, not in the land of the left, you can only give money to groups that are liberal / left-leaning causes.

In fact, that's the ONLY issue .. if the Boston and Chicago mayors had kept their traps shut, NONE of this would have been an issue.

And by the way, the original comments from Cathy were to a Baptist newsletter, not to a radio show (originally)...

Wait, you think that the person who is choosing to not spend his money at a restaurant which spends their money on causes he doesn't support doesn't understand that the owner has the right to spend his money to support the causes he wants? Do you realize just how idiotic that statement is? You're literally saying I don't understand a process which I am consciously taking an active role in.

My head, it hurts.

No, UCF can boycott whomever you wish for whatever reason you wish. (if for instance some company that sends money to a company with ties to AQ, Greenpeace, PETA, etc.)

That's your right as a consumer and I have no issues if that's your opinion. Again, if you personally want to promote a boycott of CFA or any other company, thats your right.
Heck, I try to refuse to do business with companies that donate to planned parenthood for instance. (If that information comes out about a company)

But the hardcore liberals in GOVERNMENT Positions have said that Cathy and his company shouldn't be allowed to put their money where they want to put it, whether it's an anti-gay group or a pro-religious group or a pro-abortion group, pro-life, whatever... they can only give money to where those in the govt. want it to go. That's why I specifically put in the cities that were promoting a ban of the company for any licenses i their cities.