Lets see if one of the Carriers now in the IO moves back up into the Med. We could move an LHD (Iwo Jima) into the Med. It has Ospreys that could land a strike force to secure the Syrian Chemical weapons. If the Chemical Weapons get loose, things get real interesting real quick. And you wonder why Syria has the "worlds largest stockpile of chemical weapons?"

US, Israel discuss destroying Syrian weapons

US against attack; Israel concerned Hezbollah will obtain chemical weapons; Nasrallah lauds Assad for providing missiles.

The United States and Israel were in discussions over whether Israel should take out Syrian weapons facilities as the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad falters, The New York Times reported Thursday.

According to the report, which cited two administration officials, the United States is opposed to such an attack "because of the risk that it would give Mr. Assad an opportunity to rally support against Israeli interference."

Israel discussed the Syrian issues with US National Security Advisor Thomas Donilon during his visit last weekend, the Times quoted a White House official as saying.

We believe that the assassination of the top Syrian government officials will speed up Assad’s downfall,” Barak told Panetta, who is scheduled to visit Israel later this month. “We are also closely tracking the possibility that Hezbollah will try to move advanced military platforms or chemical weapons from Syria to Lebanon.”

Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah confirmed in a Wednesday that Syria provided arms not only to Hezbollah, but to terrorist groups in Gaza as well.

In a speech marking the anniversary of the 2006 Lebanon War, Nasrallah said, "Syria was an aid to the Resistance and gave [us] weapons that we used in the July War. Not only in Lebanon, but also in the Gaza Strip," according to Now Lebanon.

Nassrallah's continued support of the embattled Assad accentuated the tight relationship between the two, and hinted at the possibility that Hezbollah may have access to Syria's weapons stores.

In a bid to boost support for Assad, Nasrallah mocked Egypt and Saudi Arabia for not providing weapons support to "the resistance." The weapons used against Israel, he said, "were rockets from Syria and transferred through Syria. The Syrian leadership was risking its interests and existence in order for the resistance in Lebanon and Palestine to be strong."

"Show me one Arab regime that does the same," he added.

Nasrallah went on to mourn the members of Assad's inner circle killed in a bomb on Wednesday: Syrian Defense Minister Daoud Rajha, former defense minister and senior military official General Hassan Turkmani and Assad's brother-in-law Assef Shawkat.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=278147

(07-19-2012 10:56 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Lets see if one of the Carriers now in the IO moves back up into the Med. We could move an LHD (Iwo Jima) into the Med. It has Ospreys that could land a strike force to secure the Syrian Chemical weapons. If the Chemical Weapons get loose, things get real interesting real quick. And you wonder why Syria has the "worlds largest stockpile of chemical weapons?"

US, Israel discuss destroying Syrian weapons

US against attack; Israel concerned Hezbollah will obtain chemical weapons; Nasrallah lauds Assad for providing missiles.

The United States and Israel were in discussions over whether Israel should take out Syrian weapons facilities as the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad falters, The New York Times reported Thursday.

According to the report, which cited two administration officials, the United States is opposed to such an attack "because of the risk that it would give Mr. Assad an opportunity to rally support against Israeli interference."

Israel discussed the Syrian issues with US National Security Advisor Thomas Donilon during his visit last weekend, the Times quoted a White House official as saying.

We believe that the assassination of the top Syrian government officials will speed up Assad’s downfall,” Barak told Panetta, who is scheduled to visit Israel later this month. “We are also closely tracking the possibility that Hezbollah will try to move advanced military platforms or chemical weapons from Syria to Lebanon.”

Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah confirmed in a Wednesday that Syria provided arms not only to Hezbollah, but to terrorist groups in Gaza as well.

In a speech marking the anniversary of the 2006 Lebanon War, Nasrallah said, "Syria was an aid to the Resistance and gave [us] weapons that we used in the July War. Not only in Lebanon, but also in the Gaza Strip," according to Now Lebanon.

Nassrallah's continued support of the embattled Assad accentuated the tight relationship between the two, and hinted at the possibility that Hezbollah may have access to Syria's weapons stores.

In a bid to boost support for Assad, Nasrallah mocked Egypt and Saudi Arabia for not providing weapons support to "the resistance." The weapons used against Israel, he said, "were rockets from Syria and transferred through Syria. The Syrian leadership was risking its interests and existence in order for the resistance in Lebanon and Palestine to be strong."

"Show me one Arab regime that does the same," he added.

Nasrallah went on to mourn the members of Assad's inner circle killed in a bomb on Wednesday: Syrian Defense Minister Daoud Rajha, former defense minister and senior military official General Hassan Turkmani and Assad's brother-in-law Assef Shawkat.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=278147

Better chack in with your Jewish military contact and keep us up to date.

Btw, I highly doubt Syria has the "worlds largest stockpile of chemical weapons". I would venture to guess we have a bigger stockpile than Syria.

(07-19-2012 11:02 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 10:56 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Lets see if one of the Carriers now in the IO moves back up into the Med. We could move an LHD (Iwo Jima) into the Med. It has Ospreys that could land a strike force to secure the Syrian Chemical weapons. If the Chemical Weapons get loose, things get real interesting real quick. And you wonder why Syria has the "worlds largest stockpile of chemical weapons?"

US, Israel discuss destroying Syrian weapons

US against attack; Israel concerned Hezbollah will obtain chemical weapons; Nasrallah lauds Assad for providing missiles.

The United States and Israel were in discussions over whether Israel should take out Syrian weapons facilities as the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad falters, The New York Times reported Thursday.

According to the report, which cited two administration officials, the United States is opposed to such an attack "because of the risk that it would give Mr. Assad an opportunity to rally support against Israeli interference."

Israel discussed the Syrian issues with US National Security Advisor Thomas Donilon during his visit last weekend, the Times quoted a White House official as saying.

We believe that the assassination of the top Syrian government officials will speed up Assad’s downfall,” Barak told Panetta, who is scheduled to visit Israel later this month. “We are also closely tracking the possibility that Hezbollah will try to move advanced military platforms or chemical weapons from Syria to Lebanon.”

Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah confirmed in a Wednesday that Syria provided arms not only to Hezbollah, but to terrorist groups in Gaza as well.

In a speech marking the anniversary of the 2006 Lebanon War, Nasrallah said, "Syria was an aid to the Resistance and gave [us] weapons that we used in the July War. Not only in Lebanon, but also in the Gaza Strip," according to Now Lebanon.

Nassrallah's continued support of the embattled Assad accentuated the tight relationship between the two, and hinted at the possibility that Hezbollah may have access to Syria's weapons stores.

In a bid to boost support for Assad, Nasrallah mocked Egypt and Saudi Arabia for not providing weapons support to "the resistance." The weapons used against Israel, he said, "were rockets from Syria and transferred through Syria. The Syrian leadership was risking its interests and existence in order for the resistance in Lebanon and Palestine to be strong."

"Show me one Arab regime that does the same," he added.

Nasrallah went on to mourn the members of Assad's inner circle killed in a bomb on Wednesday: Syrian Defense Minister Daoud Rajha, former defense minister and senior military official General Hassan Turkmani and Assad's brother-in-law Assef Shawkat.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=278147

Better chack in with your Jewish military contact and keep us up to date.

Btw, I highly doubt Syria has the "worlds largest stockpile of chemical weapons". I would venture to guess we have a bigger stockpile than Syria.

What chemical weapons stockpile?

The US destroyed their nerve, blister and gas weapons to comply with the Chemical Weapons Treaty of 1997. Only thing we have left are bulk precursor chemicals.

http://www.cma.army.mil/fndocumentviewer...=003683880

(07-19-2012 11:17 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 11:02 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 10:56 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Lets see if one of the Carriers now in the IO moves back up into the Med. We could move an LHD (Iwo Jima) into the Med. It has Ospreys that could land a strike force to secure the Syrian Chemical weapons. If the Chemical Weapons get loose, things get real interesting real quick. And you wonder why Syria has the "worlds largest stockpile of chemical weapons?"

US, Israel discuss destroying Syrian weapons

US against attack; Israel concerned Hezbollah will obtain chemical weapons; Nasrallah lauds Assad for providing missiles.

The United States and Israel were in discussions over whether Israel should take out Syrian weapons facilities as the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad falters, The New York Times reported Thursday.

According to the report, which cited two administration officials, the United States is opposed to such an attack "because of the risk that it would give Mr. Assad an opportunity to rally support against Israeli interference."

Israel discussed the Syrian issues with US National Security Advisor Thomas Donilon during his visit last weekend, the Times quoted a White House official as saying.

We believe that the assassination of the top Syrian government officials will speed up Assad’s downfall,” Barak told Panetta, who is scheduled to visit Israel later this month. “We are also closely tracking the possibility that Hezbollah will try to move advanced military platforms or chemical weapons from Syria to Lebanon.”

Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah confirmed in a Wednesday that Syria provided arms not only to Hezbollah, but to terrorist groups in Gaza as well.

In a speech marking the anniversary of the 2006 Lebanon War, Nasrallah said, "Syria was an aid to the Resistance and gave [us] weapons that we used in the July War. Not only in Lebanon, but also in the Gaza Strip," according to Now Lebanon.

Nassrallah's continued support of the embattled Assad accentuated the tight relationship between the two, and hinted at the possibility that Hezbollah may have access to Syria's weapons stores.

In a bid to boost support for Assad, Nasrallah mocked Egypt and Saudi Arabia for not providing weapons support to "the resistance." The weapons used against Israel, he said, "were rockets from Syria and transferred through Syria. The Syrian leadership was risking its interests and existence in order for the resistance in Lebanon and Palestine to be strong."

"Show me one Arab regime that does the same," he added.

Nasrallah went on to mourn the members of Assad's inner circle killed in a bomb on Wednesday: Syrian Defense Minister Daoud Rajha, former defense minister and senior military official General Hassan Turkmani and Assad's brother-in-law Assef Shawkat.

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=278147

Better chack in with your Jewish military contact and keep us up to date.

Btw, I highly doubt Syria has the "worlds largest stockpile of chemical weapons". I would venture to guess we have a bigger stockpile than Syria.

What chemical weapons stockpile?

The US destroyed their nerve, blister and gas weapons to comply with the Chemical Weapons Treaty of 1997. Only thing we have left are bulk precursor chemicals.

http://www.cma.army.mil/fndocumentviewer...=003683880

So NOW you believe the government.

(07-19-2012 10:56 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=278147 Wrote:According to the report, which cited two administration officials, the United States is opposed to such an attack "because of the risk that it would give Mr. Assad an opportunity to rally support against Israeli interference."

So, the message from the US administration is that the threat posed by the continued rule of Assad is greater than the threat posed by chemical weapons proliferation to Hezbollah and Hamas? I am sure that message is received well by the ones that would be targeted by those weapons.

That is mind-numbingly stupid decision making by the administration.

I am sure the Israelis don't care much for Assad, but letting those weapons blow in the wind isn't acceptable.

(07-19-2012 03:10 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 10:56 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=278147 Wrote:According to the report, which cited two administration officials, the United States is opposed to such an attack "because of the risk that it would give Mr. Assad an opportunity to rally support against Israeli interference."

So, the message from the US administration is that the threat posed by the continued rule of Assad is greater than the threat posed by chemical weapons proliferation to Hezbollah and Hamas? I am sure that message is received well by the ones that would be targeted by those weapons.

That is mind-numbingly stupid decision making by the administration.

I am sure the Israelis don't care much for Assad, but letting those weapons blow in the wind isn't acceptable.

The way the attack takes place is that the bunkers holding the weapons go up in the middle of the night when thermobaric explosives incinerate them as seen most recently in Libya.

Hezbollah has already admitted the Syrians gave them rockets and short range guided missiles.

Relax. The president has got it all under control.

(07-19-2012 03:55 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 03:10 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 10:56 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=278147 Wrote:According to the report, which cited two administration officials, the United States is opposed to such an attack "because of the risk that it would give Mr. Assad an opportunity to rally support against Israeli interference."

So, the message from the US administration is that the threat posed by the continued rule of Assad is greater than the threat posed by chemical weapons proliferation to Hezbollah and Hamas? I am sure that message is received well by the ones that would be targeted by those weapons.

That is mind-numbingly stupid decision making by the administration.

I am sure the Israelis don't care much for Assad, but letting those weapons blow in the wind isn't acceptable.

The way the attack takes place is that the bunkers holding the weapons go up in the middle of the night when thermobaric explosives incinerate them as seen most recently in Libya.

Hezbollah has already admitted the Syrians gave them rockets and short range guided missiles.

I'm not sure what Hezbollah meant by that ... were those the rockets used in 2006(?) or the ones that replenished those?

I think that was Hezbollah's chance to say "Iran good, Arabs Bad" in order to stir **** up in the neighborhood and send the message that Assad should remain in power. If Syria falls, Hezbollah probably suffers the most.

This was all easy enough to predict a few days ago when Syria said they were retrieving their weapons from storage to better use secure them against from the civilian population.

(07-19-2012 04:47 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 03:55 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 03:10 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(07-19-2012 10:56 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=278147 Wrote:According to the report, which cited two administration officials, the United States is opposed to such an attack "because of the risk that it would give Mr. Assad an opportunity to rally support against Israeli interference."

So, the message from the US administration is that the threat posed by the continued rule of Assad is greater than the threat posed by chemical weapons proliferation to Hezbollah and Hamas? I am sure that message is received well by the ones that would be targeted by those weapons.

That is mind-numbingly stupid decision making by the administration.

I am sure the Israelis don't care much for Assad, but letting those weapons blow in the wind isn't acceptable.

The way the attack takes place is that the bunkers holding the weapons go up in the middle of the night when thermobaric explosives incinerate them as seen most recently in Libya.

Hezbollah has already admitted the Syrians gave them rockets and short range guided missiles.

I'm not sure what Hezbollah meant by that ... were those the rockets used in 2006(?) or the ones that replenished those?

I think that was Hezbollah's chance to say "Iran good, Arabs Bad" in order to stir **** up in the neighborhood and send the message that Assad should remain in power. If Syria falls, Hezbollah probably suffers the most.

This was all easy enough to predict a few days ago when Syria said they were retrieving their weapons from storage to better use secure them against from the civilian population.

Within the next month (once Assad falls) some things will be revealed:

1. Around 35% of of the 'Syrian' Chemical Weapons are actually Iraqi in origin (moved to Syria to escape the UN inspectors).

2. Moving the Syrian stockpile of chemical weapons out of "storage" may be because they are leaking. Syrian knock-offs of 80's vintage Soviet 122, 140, and 152 mm chemical artillery and rocket warheads are defective designs, old, leaking, and unstable.

Many "Johnny Hadji" Rebels breaking into a Chemical Weapons Bunker are likely to die just from picking up or moving the corroded and leaking shells and warheads The Rebels will display their bodies as "victims" of a Assad Chemical Weapons attack, and upon autopsy their bodies will show exposure to chemical warfare agents. Assad wants to avoid this, because even the Russians and Chinese will dump him then. Therefore, he is moving the weapons.

"Where to" is a different story.

But if it comes out that there are some Novichok chemical weapons in the Syrian stockpile, some High Ranking Russians have LOTS of explaining to do, because this garbage is NASTY, and supposedly a proprietary Russian military formula.

Obama has his best people on this.

(07-19-2012 08:06 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Obama has his best people on this.

No he doesn't.

I'm not involved.

Things look like they're starting to move pretty fast now. I'd guess Iran is the only place that's left for Assad to go.

(07-19-2012 09:37 PM)I45owl Wrote:  Things look like they're starting to move pretty fast now. I'd guess Iran is the only place that's left for Assad to go.

The way his Internal Security is falling apart, he could be dead by Sunday. The Iranian Revolutionary Guards Al Quds detatchment can't protect him now.

Let him run to Iran. If they give sanctuary after the War Crimes allegations come out against Assad, just more grounds for Sanctions against the Mullahs.