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RE: VA Gov: Spending Cuts = Job Losses
(07-19-2012 02:47 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(07-19-2012 02:41 PM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  
(07-19-2012 02:30 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Contractors are hired to do the work for less money than the government can do it for themselves. Why would they let the contractors go?

They are easily disposable. It's easier to cut an entire government contract than it is to eliminate one federal employee.

Most federal employees are easily disposable. Few do any valuable work and almost all can be replaced with a cheaper government contractor. We could probably cut 1/2 of them and still get the necessary work done.

I know what you're saying makes sense, but it just doesn't work like that. There's a stigma that comes with "hired help". I have a great example than can help you understand...A contractor is like an illegal, much cheaper, however when **** hits the fan who do you terminate? The illegal alien (contractor) or the US citizen (gov't employee). No one who has worked in an environment with both gov't employees and contractors can deny the decision that would be made.

A contract is simply a process of getting people at a "group rate". What will most likely happen is programs (not employees) will get cut. The programs that will be cut will have a heavy ratio of contractor to gov't employee. The contractors are left out in the cold and the gov't employee is simply moved to another department. It happens every day, but on this occasion it will happen on a massive and frightening scale.
07-19-2012 03:17 PM
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Re: VA Gov: Spending Cuts = Job Losses
Oh no, I think you're right. I was just saying it's backwards. Then again so are most things government do.

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RE: VA Gov: Spending Cuts = Job Losses
(07-19-2012 08:34 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2cha..._blog.html

Quote:If Congress doesn’t act to stop roughly $100 billion in spending cuts set to take effect in January, Virginia could take one of the biggest economic hits of any state, potentially losing up to 123,000 jobs, according to some estimates.
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“You’re putting hundreds of thousands of jobs in my state at risk and you’re putting the United States military in a very bad circumstance when they’re fighting a war abroad and trying to figure out how they’re going to govern themselves,” McDonnell said. “It’s not responsible governing. They need to act, they need to act now, and it’s not just Republican governors, Democrat governors as well share this belief that this horrific and unprecedented uncertainty created by the United States Congress.”

So the Chairman of the Republican Governors Association is coming out against federal spending cuts? There goes what little consideration he had left for Romney's VP spot.

Too damn bad. I understand his point, and a true reform candidate will never win MD and VA, b/c too many gov't jobs there. But it needs to be done, and if those economies get wrecked, c'est la vie. You can't keep living off the work of others.
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(07-19-2012 08:34 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2cha..._blog.html

Quote:If Congress doesn’t act to stop roughly $100 billion in spending cuts set to take effect in January, Virginia could take one of the biggest economic hits of any state, potentially losing up to 123,000 jobs, according to some estimates.
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“You’re putting hundreds of thousands of jobs in my state at risk and you’re putting the United States military in a very bad circumstance when they’re fighting a war abroad and trying to figure out how they’re going to govern themselves,” McDonnell said. “It’s not responsible governing. They need to act, they need to act now, and it’s not just Republican governors, Democrat governors as well share this belief that this horrific and unprecedented uncertainty created by the United States Congress.”

So the Chairman of the Republican Governors Association is coming out against federal spending cuts? There goes what little consideration he had left for Romney's VP spot.


While I harbor no person ill will against federal workers since I understand they are just trying to make a living, I do however really object to most of the jobs they occupy and will not shed a tear at those positions being eliminated. Hopefully they will obtain positions in the private sector.
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RE: VA Gov: Spending Cuts = Job Losses
(07-19-2012 06:05 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2012 08:34 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2cha..._blog.html

Quote:If Congress doesn’t act to stop roughly $100 billion in spending cuts set to take effect in January, Virginia could take one of the biggest economic hits of any state, potentially losing up to 123,000 jobs, according to some estimates.
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“You’re putting hundreds of thousands of jobs in my state at risk and you’re putting the United States military in a very bad circumstance when they’re fighting a war abroad and trying to figure out how they’re going to govern themselves,” McDonnell said. “It’s not responsible governing. They need to act, they need to act now, and it’s not just Republican governors, Democrat governors as well share this belief that this horrific and unprecedented uncertainty created by the United States Congress.”

So the Chairman of the Republican Governors Association is coming out against federal spending cuts? There goes what little consideration he had left for Romney's VP spot.


While I harbor no person ill will against federal workers since I understand they are just trying to make a living, I do however really object to most of the jobs they occupy and will not shed a tear at those positions being eliminated. Hopefully they will obtain positions in the private sector.

They would easily as the bureaucracy fades and businesses expand. However, the progressives have done two things to discourage this in a democracy:

Dumbed down people through the public schools so they can't reason logically, or don't trust logic.

Spread the culture of dependency on the gov't very broadly. Many people have a stake in keeping a big, overspending gov't...in VA it's about "jobs". This and a lack of faith in logic keeps them from voting in the country's (and their) best interest.
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