(05-22-2012 12:18 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  IN NO WAY WILL JAX STATE OR ALABAMA STATE COME INTO THE SBC!!!!

If this were to happen this would set TROY back 10 years. We might as well move back to FCS just with nicer facilities....NO NO NO NO!!!!!

Just come along with these teams to the WAC. Sure.
Appalachian is talked about in this thread a lot. There was some interesting stuff stated about realignment to the WAC. For example, did you know that we are in the CAA? Charlie Cobb really needs to do a better job of communicating to us. I imagine that you saw the article the other day about the WAC and MAC suppossedly talking to JMU about joining those conferences. I guess the WAC has offerred App, JMU, Liberty, Jacksonville State, Delaware, GaSo and others. It would probably work, but would have to schedule at least 2 other FBS teams as a home game second year.

With the article by CBSSports yesterday about a new 10 year moratorium on moving to FBS, wouldn't doubt that Liberty and some schools might join the WAC.

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=570897

(05-22-2012 10:59 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  http://madvertiserblogs.com/hornetchat/2...-football/

Quote:At the same time, he has to be careful what his staff promises to young recruits. The Hornets haven’t announced just yet that they’re making the move from Football Championship Subdivision (Division I-AA) to Football Bowl Subdivision (Division I-A) so he needs to be careful not to mislead anyone, even if the writing is on the wall.

If the Hornets were trying to move up they would have to have an invitation from an FBS Conference. As it stands, their only hope is us, and I don't see the Belt tossing them a rope to pull 'em up from the depths of FCS mediocrity.

Why do these FCS folks continue to talk like simply deciding to ascend upward is all it takes? They have to know the rules.

I can't blame them for wanting to do what Troy has done, but the simple fact is they are not Troy.

Just like Liberty, they have a great new stadium !

Florida A&M was all set to join the Sun Belt a few years back. I think one HBCU in FBS would be interesting.

No, I don't think that Ala State would be a great fit for the Belt (their football is too far behind, and they'd likely have to play too many FCS HBCU's. But they're certainly not as far fetched as Liberty and I'd prefer them to Jacksonville State.

this discussion is getting ridiculous. are you guys really discussing the possibility of a bunch of HBCU schools jumping up as a group and forming a new FBS Conference with nothing but FCS programs?

(05-22-2012 12:26 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 12:18 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  IN NO WAY WILL JAX STATE OR ALABAMA STATE COME INTO THE SBC!!!!

If this were to happen this would set TROY back 10 years. We might as well move back to FCS just with nicer facilities....NO NO NO NO!!!!!

Just come along with these teams to the WAC. Sure.
Appalachian is talked about in this thread a lot. There was some interesting stuff stated about realignment to the WAC. For example, did you know that we are in the CAA? Charlie Cobb really needs to do a better job of communicating to us. I imagine that you saw the article the other day about the WAC and MAC suppossedly talking to JMU about joining those conferences. I guess the WAC has offerred App, JMU, Liberty, Jacksonville State, Delaware, GaSo and others. It would probably work, but would have to schedule at least 2 other FBS teams as a home game second year.

With the article by CBSSports yesterday about a new 10 year moratorium on moving to FBS, wouldn't doubt that Liberty and some schools might join the WAC.

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=570897

If it happens then so be it....It would create a conference for the SBC to dip into without having to go to FCS.

(05-22-2012 12:27 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 10:59 AM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  http://madvertiserblogs.com/hornetchat/2...-football/

Quote:At the same time, he has to be careful what his staff promises to young recruits. The Hornets haven’t announced just yet that they’re making the move from Football Championship Subdivision (Division I-AA) to Football Bowl Subdivision (Division I-A) so he needs to be careful not to mislead anyone, even if the writing is on the wall.

If the Hornets were trying to move up they would have to have an invitation from an FBS Conference. As it stands, their only hope is us, and I don't see the Belt tossing them a rope to pull 'em up from the depths of FCS mediocrity.

Why do these FCS folks continue to talk like simply deciding to ascend upward is all it takes? They have to know the rules.

I can't blame them for wanting to do what Troy has done, but the simple fact is they are not Troy.

Just like Liberty, they have a great new stadium !

Florida A&M was all set to join the Sun Belt a few years back. I think one HBCU in FBS would be interesting.

No, I don't think that Ala State would be a great fit for the Belt (their football is too far behind, and they'd likely have to play too many FCS HBCU's. But they're certainly not as far fetched as Liberty and I'd prefer them to Jacksonville State.

FAMU would be the only HBCU that would work in the SBC. I do not see it working out for any other school.

(05-22-2012 12:23 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 12:05 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 11:55 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  If there were a possibility the HBCUs that would have to be included in the new conference would be:

Florida A&M
Southern University
Jackson State
North Carolina A&T
North Carolina Central
South Carolina State
Howard
Hampton

Texas Southern, Alabama A&M and Alabama State would probably be included but they are all under 7,000 students. Plus the graduation rates are not very good.

Also Grambling...a little financial issues, but I guarantee they would raise the money so as to not be left behind by Southern University.

If that is the case, you have to add Prairie View to get to 12.

The conference would have a huge following.

Very huge...and Southern and Grambling would still maintain the Bayou Classic, which is broadcast nationwide around Thanksgiving.

(05-22-2012 12:28 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  this discussion is getting ridiculous. are you guys really discussing the possibility of a bunch of HBCU schools jumping up as a group and forming a new FBS Conference with nothing but FCS programs?

I said a couple of days ago that this talk of a 10 year moratorium was going to make for some crazy things the next little while.

Thought I read an article about two months ago about Alabama State having some major financial trouble.
Concerning FAMU, didn't their president resign, or fired, the other day when five or six of their students were arrested concerning their drum major's hazing death? They started to move to FBS years ago but decided not to when they got in NCAA trouble didn't they?

Alabama state Football Stadium.....Seats 26k

(05-22-2012 12:35 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 12:28 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  this discussion is getting ridiculous. are you guys really discussing the possibility of a bunch of HBCU schools jumping up as a group and forming a new FBS Conference with nothing but FCS programs?

I said a couple of days ago that this talk of a 10 year moratorium was going to make for some crazy things the next little while.

Thought I read an article about two months ago about Alabama State having some major financial trouble.
Concerning FAMU, didn't their president resign, or fired, the other day when five or six of their students were arrested concerning their drum major's hazing death? They started to move to FBS years ago but decided not to when they got in NCAA trouble didn't they?

the problem with the HBCU's moving up is that for them to be successful many of them will have to move up in a block. Otherwise, they will alienate their fan bases and reduce alumni support and dollars.

Jacksonville State University Stadium....24k

I haven't read all of this thread, so this may have been posted already.

This was on the same page as the initial story.
http://madvertiserblogs.com/hornetchat/2...-fbs-jump/

No way. ASU's stadium is beautiful BUT they dont even attempt to schedule OOC home mens bb games consistently why would they schedule home-home OOC football games? Plus their big rivalry game is with Tuskegee, which is DIVISION 2. I'm just thinking they want more money for their body bag games.

I bet UAB would like to move that stadium to their campus...plus 4 or 5 thouseand more seats!

(05-22-2012 12:42 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

Jacksonville State University Stadium....24k

I went to theirs last year. Great stadium and great game day atmosphere.

(05-22-2012 01:26 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 12:42 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

Jacksonville State University Stadium....24k

I went to theirs last year. Great stadium and great game day atmosphere.

Then you will LOVE TROY's Stadium and Atmosphere

(05-22-2012 06:04 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 01:26 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 12:42 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

Jacksonville State University Stadium....24k

I went to theirs last year. Great stadium and great game day atmosphere.

Then you will LOVE TROY's Stadium and Atmosphere

Yeah, the ten people who show up.

We averaged more than JSU did in attendance this year even with a 3-9 season thank you!

Let me know when UNT has a winning season....

(05-22-2012 06:07 PM)meangreener Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 06:04 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 01:26 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 12:42 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

Jacksonville State University Stadium....24k

I went to theirs last year. Great stadium and great game day atmosphere.

Then you will LOVE TROY's Stadium and Atmosphere

Yeah, the ten people who show up.

Attendance smack, seriously? Dude get lost if that's what you're bringing.

it wasn't even well-placed attendance smack.

(05-22-2012 06:35 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 06:07 PM)meangreener Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 06:04 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 01:26 PM)panama Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 12:42 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

Jacksonville State University Stadium....24k

I went to theirs last year. Great stadium and great game day atmosphere.

Then you will LOVE TROY's Stadium and Atmosphere

Yeah, the ten people who show up.

Attendance smack, seriously? Dude get lost if that's what you're bringing.

it wasn't even well-placed attendance smack.

Ya cause UNT has been leaders in the SBC in the attendance area...

(05-22-2012 06:19 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  We averaged more than JSU did in attendance this year even with a 3-9 season thank you!

Let me know when UNT has a winning season....

Remind me how many conference games in a row UNT won? Pretty sure Troy was getting steamrolled then just like they did last year.

And last year we were, what, 3rd?