As a politician, he's horrible. Openly criticized the Big East and then begged them to take us. Has a huge ego and likes to has his opinion heard whether its the Big East or Kentucky Basketball. He's lost the student support in basketball and baseball as he has created a "sanitized" atmosphere for both, which he tries to attract the older 50+ set. The 50+ group is in LOVE with Terry Holland. He needed to improve ECU's conference affiliation but failed miserably, which his negative public comments played a HUGE part.

He was able to help get UNCC, which hasn't even played its first ever football game to be equal members with ECU.

That wasn't easy to do...

(05-03-2012 09:22 PM)Bowsprit Wrote:  he has created a "sanitized" atmosphere for both, which he tries to attract the older 50+ set. The 50+ group is in LOVE with Terry Holland.

The 50+ crowd is the one with the money, cutting the checks for the cool stuff we've been building. I'm OK with it. I hear what you're saying and understand; I'm a student now (granted, a 28-year-old grad student) but what he's done isn't going to detract me from donating money via the Pirate Club when I'm able to.

(05-03-2012 09:32 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  He was able to help get UNCC, which hasn't even played its first ever football game to be equal members with ECU.

That wasn't easy to do...

Welcome to ignore, troll.

Success.

(05-03-2012 09:22 PM)Bowsprit Wrote:  As a politician, he's horrible. Openly criticized the Big East and then begged them to take us. Has a huge ego and likes to has his opinion heard whether its the Big East or Kentucky Basketball. He's lost the student support in basketball and baseball as he has created a "sanitized" atmosphere for both, which he tries to attract the older 50+ set. The 50+ group is in LOVE with Terry Holland. He needed to improve ECU's conference affiliation but failed miserably, which his negative public comments played a HUGE part.

I get what you're saying, and when I was a student, I used to yell some horrible stuff and that was when the students were allowed to be on the lowest row in the middle right behind the opposing team. That said, as a father, we needed the atmosphere sanitized. I'm not trying to ruin on anyone's fun, but it's not something you want your kid listening to. Luckily the section I sit in is much more tame than where I used to sit.

As for conference situation, calling TH a failure is not exactly true. We have a lot of fans that have an inflated delusion of what we really are. Just because there are 50k people in the stands doesn't mean we're the next greatest thing. We've been trying to get into the big east since it started, and haven't. This doesn't lie on TH. He can't pick ECU up and move it to a major market. Hell, I can remember when everyone was up in arms trying to get into cusa. I think the expectations for TH were not realistic with the conference affiliation. That said, I don't think he walks on water either. There have been some bonehead decisions made, but more good than bad. I'd call him a success. But that's just one man's opinion.

(05-03-2012 09:22 PM)Bowsprit Wrote:  As a politician, he's horrible. Openly criticized the Big East and then begged them to take us. Has a huge ego and likes to has his opinion heard whether its the Big East or Kentucky Basketball. He's lost the student support in basketball and baseball as he has created a "sanitized" atmosphere for both, which he tries to attract the older 50+ set. The 50+ group is in LOVE with Terry Holland. He needed to improve ECU's conference affiliation but failed miserably, which his negative public comments played a HUGE part.

He openly called the BE on what they're looking at with the Undaunted Web Site. If the BE wants this this and this....we got it.... and we got proof.

TH is a former coach of basketball at UVA. He can throw out an opinion on leaving early if he wants to and he's got the resume to back up his stance.

I get your angle on the sanitized part with his "Letter's from the Desk" but ask yourself how may University officials from anywhere like it when people act like ass holes in public. It does you no favors to be rude.

And, I keep seeing the hate on he should have done better on ECUs conference affiliation but what could he have done better? CUSA is better than where we were. ACC and SEC are pipe dreams. And if you look at how the BE has gotten to where they are then you have to be blind if you don't see how that is a train wreck and what made the BE attractive for us in the past isn't there anymore.

This is exactly what I was talking about...

(05-03-2012 09:22 PM)Bowsprit Wrote:  As a politician, he's horrible. Openly criticized the Big East and then begged them to take us. Has a huge ego and likes to has his opinion heard whether its the Big East or Kentucky Basketball. He's lost the student support in basketball and baseball as he has created a "sanitized" atmosphere for both, which he tries to attract the older 50+ set. The 50+ group is in LOVE with Terry Holland. He needed to improve ECU's conference affiliation but failed miserably, which his negative public comments played a HUGE part.

Ignore the radio troll.

(05-03-2012 09:53 PM)UCFL Wrote:  This is exactly what I was talking about...

(05-03-2012 09:22 PM)Bowsprit Wrote:  As a politician, he's horrible. Openly criticized the Big East and then begged them to take us. Has a huge ego and likes to has his opinion heard whether its the Big East or Kentucky Basketball. He's lost the student support in basketball and baseball as he has created a "sanitized" atmosphere for both, which he tries to attract the older 50+ set. The 50+ group is in LOVE with Terry Holland. He needed to improve ECU's conference affiliation but failed miserably, which his negative public comments played a HUGE part.

No it's not. You just made an inflamatory post that you couldn't back up when asked about it. Then you sat back and waited for a "Pirates fan" to post something that you could quote and agree with.

By the way "Pirates fan" is in quotations because this poster has made one post here and it isn't very pro ECU.

Not a good politician? Is that supposed to be good or bad? He speaks straight from the heart and usually speaks the truth. If your talking about his ability to work with people outside of ECU how about the fact that NC State played once in Greenville in our first 22 meetings with them then since Holland has been here there have been 2 games in Raleigh and 2 games in Greenville?

If he "begged" the BE to take us it's only because our fans would have shown up in a mob at his front door if he didn't.

(05-03-2012 09:53 PM)UCFL Wrote:  This is exactly what I was talking about...

(05-03-2012 09:22 PM)Bowsprit Wrote:  As a politician, he's horrible. Openly criticized the Big East and then begged them to take us. Has a huge ego and likes to has his opinion heard whether its the Big East or Kentucky Basketball. He's lost the student support in basketball and baseball as he has created a "sanitized" atmosphere for both, which he tries to attract the older 50+ set. The 50+ group is in LOVE with Terry Holland. He needed to improve ECU's conference affiliation but failed miserably, which his negative public comments played a HUGE part.

Sorry, but I going to be blunt here, UCFL your an a$$hate troll when it come to Terry Holland. The facts are this, He is a form Davidson player, coac, and AD, UVa. Coach and AD. He is in both the Va. and NC Sports Hall of Fame, set records for donations at Davidson, UVa., and ECU. He is very well respected, if you don't believe me call The editor of The ACC Sports Journal and Radio Show host David Glenn and ask him yourself..................................

(05-03-2012 09:32 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  He was able to help get UNCC, which hasn't even played its first ever football game to be equal members with ECU.

That wasn't easy to do...

I think that's pretty damn successful!

He is a failure unless y'all go to a Super Regional.

Berry will be a failure here if he fails to get us to Omaha again at some point.

(05-03-2012 10:16 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  He is a failure unless y'all go to a Super Regional.

Berry will be a failure here if he fails to get us to Omaha again at some point.

We went to a super with TH here.

(05-03-2012 07:12 PM)UCFL Wrote:  Terry Holland is not popular with many people outside of greenville. I know the Big East administrators think he is a joke.

Maybe you should ask UVa, the NCAA basketball admins, USA basketball at all levels, Davidson college, and the legendary coaches of the acc if he's popular.

Do me a favor, next time you don't know what you're talking about, just stop talking and eat one of lmckay's used carrots

(05-03-2012 10:18 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:16 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  He is a failure unless y'all go to a Super Regional.

Berry will be a failure here if he fails to get us to Omaha again at some point.

We went to a super with TH here.

Didn't know that. Then I wouldn't call him a failure at all. Getting to Omaha is incredibly difficult for any program.

(05-03-2012 10:16 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  He is a failure unless y'all go to a Super Regional.

Been there, done that. 2004 and 2009. (TH took over in 2004, we also went in 2001). Haven't been to Omaha, though, hats off to y'all.

(05-03-2012 10:18 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 07:12 PM)UCFL Wrote:  Terry Holland is not popular with many people outside of greenville. I know the Big East administrators think he is a joke.

Maybe you should ask UVa, the NCAA basketball admins, USA basketball at all levels, Davidson college, and the legendary coaches of the acc if he's popular.

Do me a favor, next time you don't know what you're talking about, just stop talking and eat one of lmckay's used carrots

He WAS, his time has come and passed. ECU needs a fresh leader who has not burnt bridges with several conferences, including CUSA.

Purple, WTF man?!?!?! Look at what you started.............the UCF TH troll is back and I was so liking this place the past few months........until now............damn.

(05-03-2012 10:41 PM)UCFL Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 10:18 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 07:12 PM)UCFL Wrote:  Terry Holland is not popular with many people outside of greenville. I know the Big East administrators think he is a joke.

Maybe you should ask UVa, the NCAA basketball admins, USA basketball at all levels, Davidson college, and the legendary coaches of the acc if he's popular.

Do me a favor, next time you don't know what you're talking about, just stop talking and eat one of lmckay's used carrots

He WAS, his time has come and passed. ECU needs a fresh leader who has not burnt bridges with several conferences, including CUSA.

Well if you think any bridges were burnt with CUSA by him then you have a beef with most of the Pirate Nation who kept filling his ear with CUSA sucks...too much travel....garbage. He was basically working with that being flushed down his throat from day 1. CUSA, in expansion during our tenure hasn't really added to many east coast teams. They have put a lot of teams from Texas in. Nothing against Texas but since the last raid the commish has been looking westward for newcomers.