So a few days ago on 99.9 The Fan, a caller called in and outright said that Terry Holland has been a failure for ECU.

Now of course none of his reasons stood up, but I wanted to bring about a conversation/debate up here to see what everyone else thinks.

(05-03-2012 06:25 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  So a few days ago on 99.9 The Fan, a caller called in and outright said that Terry Holland has been a failure for ECU.

Now of course none of his reasons stood up, but I wanted to bring about a conversation/debate up here to see what everyone else thinks.

He's done good by us. Facilities have been majorly upgraded and football has had success. I disagree with him on some things and don't view him as a savior that some here seem to see him as. I can't complain though, never once thought of him as a failure or needing to be replaced.

No need to give stupid people like that any press.

can you please keep all these random ecu threads on a ecu themed board (like boneyard banter of whatever the hell it's called)

not trying to be a prick but threads about whether or not ecu should add volleyball or soccer does not belong on a cusa board, imo.

(05-03-2012 06:35 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  can you please keep all these random ecu threads on a ecu themed board (like boneyard banter of whatever the hell it's called)

not trying to be a prick but threads about whether or not ecu should add volleyball or soccer does not belong on a cusa board, imo.

Agreed. We have one here just a coule clicks away.

Kind of like asking everyone on a CUSA board to sign a petition for an AD yall want at USM, right?

Who yall want to politic for as AD for USM does not belong on a CUSA board imo.

He has been quite the success at ODU, assuming we don't chicken out.

(05-03-2012 06:35 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  can you please keep all these random ecu threads on a ecu themed board (like boneyard banter of whatever the hell it's called)

not trying to be a prick but threads about whether or not ecu should add volleyball or soccer does not belong on a cusa board, imo.

Have you been to Boneyard Banter? One can get a serious headache with that forum format.

Terry Holland is not popular with many people outside of greenville. I know the Big East administrators think he is a joke.

(05-03-2012 07:12 PM)UCFL Wrote:  Terry Holland is not popular with many people outside of greenville. I know the Big East administrators think he is a joke.

No you don't.

(05-03-2012 07:12 PM)UCFL Wrote:  Terry Holland is not popular with many people outside of greenville. I know the Big East administrators think he is a joke.

Tell me about the Big East Administrators that have told you this.

Season Ticket increase from under 15k to 22K+

5 Bowlgames in 6 yrs

Regional Home and Home series with Virginia , West Virginia , Virginia Tech , North Carolina , North Carolina State, Navy

Stadium expansion with jumbotron

New Football practice facilities

First Basketball post season in 19 yrs , hosting CIT game

New state of the art olympic sports facility , including first class track and field , soccer , and ladies softball facilities

breaking ground on new basketball facility

yep...been an epic failure

I think TH has been good for ECU, CUSA, & the Carolina/VA region. The odds are ECU will continue to be years a head of Clt & OD, yet the Pirates will regularly play in two of the largest recruiting areas in the two states; getting some of the best players ahead of other conferences.

With no AQ the need to be in the BE decreased 50%. ECU, Clt, & OD are close enough to have rivalries but far enough a part to co-exist. Teams are like manure, it's ok spread out in the field; but it stinks when it's piled up in one place.

(05-03-2012 07:34 PM)gs_pirate Wrote:  Season Ticket increase from under 15k to 22K+

5 Bowlgames in 6 yrs

Regional Home and Home series with Virginia , West Virginia , Virginia Tech , North Carolina , North Carolina State, Navy

Stadium expansion with jumbotron

New Football practice facilities

First Basketball post season in 19 yrs , hosting CIT game

New state of the art olympic sports facility , including first class track and field , soccer , and ladies softball facilities

breaking ground on new basketball facility

yep...been an epic failure

Two conference football titles

Hosted a regional in baseball, have been to several other regionals and super regionals

Softball has won the past two C-USA tournament titles

et cetera

et cetera

I don't know why this is even a thread.

(05-03-2012 06:46 PM)CrownRoyal Wrote:  Kind of like asking everyone on a CUSA board to sign a petition for an AD yall want at USM, right?

Who yall want to politic for as AD for USM does not belong on a CUSA board imo.

Good point. I signed the petition as a Southern Miss fan, but wondered why it was on here.

IMO, the only questionable thing that has come on his watch was the Ricky Stokes hire.

(05-03-2012 06:25 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  So a few days ago on 99.9 The Fan, a caller called in and outright said that Terry Holland has been a failure for ECU.

Now of course none of his reasons stood up, but I wanted to bring about a conversation/debate up here to see what everyone else thinks.

I heard that caller, and I think David Glenn had a great point... is there anyone in the universe that could have gotten East Carolina into a BCS AQ conference if he/she had the job instead of Terry Holland? The answer is no. TH did an excellent job in everything we control. Perhaps there is a person who could've gotten the job done - Dave Calhoun. But he might've sucked at all the aspects of being an AD.

(05-03-2012 06:25 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  So a few days ago on 99.9 The Fan, a caller called in and outright said that Terry Holland has been a failure for ECU.

Now of course none of his reasons stood up, but I wanted to bring about a conversation/debate up here to see what everyone else thinks.

We have more dumbasses per capita in our fanbase than any I know. The past few days have proven that.

(05-03-2012 08:30 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 06:25 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  So a few days ago on 99.9 The Fan, a caller called in and outright said that Terry Holland has been a failure for ECU.

Now of course none of his reasons stood up, but I wanted to bring about a conversation/debate up here to see what everyone else thinks.

We have more dumbasses per capita in our fanbase than any I know. The past few days have proven that.

No, that title goes to NC State..........MooooU.

(05-03-2012 08:13 PM)Chappy Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 06:25 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  So a few days ago on 99.9 The Fan, a caller called in and outright said that Terry Holland has been a failure for ECU.

Now of course none of his reasons stood up, but I wanted to bring about a conversation/debate up here to see what everyone else thinks.

I heard that caller, and I think David Glenn had a great point... is there anyone in the universe that could have gotten East Carolina into a BCS AQ conference if he/she had the job instead of Terry Holland? The answer is no. TH did an excellent job in everything we control. Perhaps there is a person who could've gotten the job done - Dave Calhoun. But he might've sucked at all the aspects of being an AD.

Yeah I heard the reasons he tried to spit out and laughed but I felt that it was something to bring up to fellow conference fans to see what they thought about TH