(02-07-2012 03:41 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 03:38 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 03:28 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 03:18 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  the GAO does not agree...

"the General Accounting Office (as the GAO was then called) identified 1,049[2] federal statutory provisions in which benefits, rights, and privileges are contingent on marital status or in which marital status is a factor."

Then why did they use different words?

Quote:

Quote:Do you think that it is only gay men and women who are arguing for gay marriage, BTW?

Largely. And a few others who were never taught the basics of history and critical thought.

And people wonder why I'm so critical of universities.

Quote:you must be mentally challenged to think you must be Gay to support equal rights for all...

You must be mentally challenged to think that I can't recognize the logical fallacy of re-directing the question. You call it "equal rights for all", and you assume it true. I already proved it false.

See what I mean about a lack of critical thinking?

LMFAO...you couldn't prove the sky is up...

Why do you Memphis people always have pics of dead people in your signatures?

something about respecting the men who made our program what it is.

that's like asking "why do you American's put dead people on your money?"

(02-07-2012 04:14 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:06 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  1.) No such thing as a gay Christian...see Holy Bible

A simple Google search would prove me right. If that hurts your feelings I'm truly sorry.

(02-07-2012 04:19 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:12 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:06 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  1.) No such thing as a gay Christian...see Holy Bible

2.) I said religious not Christian. Marriage is between a man and a woman.

You really don't get it do you?

1.) Wrong. You are betraying your ignorance.

2.) You don't have to be religious to be married, nor do you have to be married in a church or house of worship of any time.

I get it. And whether you ever get it or not, you'll have to sit back and watch while gay marriage becomes law of the land in all 50 states.

Hope you enjoy it.

1.) No. The Bible explicitly denounces homosexuality.

2.) I don't disagree. But the institution of marriage has been defined by religion and that is defined as being between a man and a woman.

Your comment insinuates you think I have a problem with gay people...I don't. Sorry if your feelings are hurt but your lying to yourself if you think you're going to Heaven...spend the rest of your life in deluded bliss.

the bible has no place in our government...

(02-07-2012 04:20 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:19 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:12 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:06 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  1.) No such thing as a gay Christian...see Holy Bible

2.) I said religious not Christian. Marriage is between a man and a woman.

You really don't get it do you?

1.) Wrong. You are betraying your ignorance.

2.) You don't have to be religious to be married, nor do you have to be married in a church or house of worship of any time.

I get it. And whether you ever get it or not, you'll have to sit back and watch while gay marriage becomes law of the land in all 50 states.

Hope you enjoy it.

1.) No. The Bible explicitly denounces homosexuality.

2.) I don't disagree. But the institution of marriage has been defined by religion and that is defined as being between a man and a woman.

Your comment insinuates you think I have a problem with gay people...I don't. Sorry if your feelings are hurt but your lying to yourself if you think you're going to Heaven...spend the rest of your life in deluded bliss.

the bible has no place in our government...

Never said it did.

(02-07-2012 04:19 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:12 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:06 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  1.) No such thing as a gay Christian...see Holy Bible

2.) I said religious not Christian. Marriage is between a man and a woman.

You really don't get it do you?

1.) Wrong. You are betraying your ignorance.

2.) You don't have to be religious to be married, nor do you have to be married in a church or house of worship of any time.

I get it. And whether you ever get it or not, you'll have to sit back and watch while gay marriage becomes law of the land in all 50 states.

Hope you enjoy it.

1.) No. The Bible explicitly denounces homosexuality.

2.) I don't disagree. But the institution of marriage has been defined by religion and that is defined as being between a man and a woman.

Your comment insinuates you think I have a problem with gay people...I don't. Sorry if your feelings are hurt but your lying to yourself if you think you're going to Heaven...spend the rest of your life in deluded bliss.

1.) Wrong again, and irrelevant in any case

2.) Nope. As I said before, there are religions and branches of religions that support gay marriage and perform them.

My feelings aren't hurt; i'm pretty pleased with the court ruling today, and the direction the country is headed. I don't follow your mythology, so i'm not really concerned about your opinions on where I, or anyone else, will spend eternity.

(02-07-2012 04:20 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:14 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:06 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  1.) No such thing as a gay Christian...see Holy Bible

A simple Google search would prove me right. If that hurts your feelings I'm truly sorry.

I KNOW gay christians. Trust me, they exist.

(02-07-2012 04:39 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:20 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:14 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:06 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  1.) No such thing as a gay Christian...see Holy Bible

A simple Google search would prove me right. If that hurts your feelings I'm truly sorry.

I KNOW gay christians. Trust me, they exist.

Okay...Jesus doesn't know any. Nice try.

(02-07-2012 04:48 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Okay...Jesus doesn't know any. Nice try.

Speaking for Jesus, now. You folks take the cake.

my aunt and her wife (married in New York, lovely service) are both Christian...they go to church every week...i've even attended a few services there.

http://www.firstcongo.com/

(02-07-2012 04:50 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:48 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  Okay...Jesus doesn't know any. Nice try.

Speaking for Jesus, now. You folks take the cake.

No. The Bible is crystal clear.

(02-07-2012 04:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  my aunt and her wife (married in New York, lovely service) are both Christian...they go to church every week...i've even attended a few services there.

http://www.firstcongo.com/

and...

(02-07-2012 04:50 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  No. The Bible is crystal clear.

Only if you've never bothered to understand it.

Here's a primer for ya, if you are actually interested (I suspect you're not interested in anything that contradicts what you already believe, no matter how wrong-headed that belief may be, but here it is anyway):

http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosex...-christian

So there cannot be gay christians because gay is a no-no in the bible and christians don't do anything that's a no-no in the bible?

(02-07-2012 04:55 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:50 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  No. The Bible is crystal clear.

Only if you've never bothered to understand it.

Here's a primer for ya, if you are actually interested (I suspect you're not interested in anything that contradicts what you already believe, no matter how wrong-headed that belief may be, but here it is anyway):

http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosex...-christian

“If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.” (Leviticus 20:13)

“Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

We're done here. You're wrong. Deal with it.

(02-07-2012 04:55 PM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:  So there cannot be gay christians because gay is a no-no in the bible and christians don't do anything that's a no-no in the bible?

This has been discussed in other threads...unrepentant sin. Look for Ninerfan's and Bulls posts. I won't.

(02-07-2012 04:59 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  “If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination.” (Leviticus 20:13)

“Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

We're done here. You're wrong. Deal with it.

Yup, as I suspected. Willfully ignorant.

(02-07-2012 05:01 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  Yup, as I suspected. Willfully ignorant.

Not sure about that... He's looking to the thing that is the crux of Christianity (somewhat punny, no?), to decide what is viewed as a Christian.

I'm not comfortable making that proclamation, because it isn't my decision to make. But you can't argue with his logic.

You can have a problem with Christianity, but if you're accepting it as fact while simultaneously ignoring a clear statement it makes, you're in conflict with what you believe in, and YOU are the willfully ignorant one.

No, because his basic premise is flawed, and he's not interested enough to learn why. That is willful ignorance.

(02-07-2012 01:26 PM)wvucrazed Wrote:  Minorities must be protected from the tyranny of the majority.

Seems to me these days that Americans must be protected from the tyranny of the minority, not the other way around.

(02-07-2012 04:51 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 04:50 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  my aunt and her wife (married in New York, lovely service) are both Christian...they go to church every week...i've even attended a few services there.

http://www.firstcongo.com/

and...

so there are gay Christians.