1. Western Michigan 4-2 (yes, I think they're that good)
2. Temple 4-2 (yes, I know they beat #3 head to head, but a rematch in the MACC would yield a different result)
3. Toledo 3-3
4. NIU 3-3 (by default, no one really deserves this spot)
5. Ohio 4-2 (bad loss at Buffalo)
6. Bowling Green 3-3
7. Ball State 3-3
8. Buffalo 2-4
9. Central Michigan 2-4
10. Miami 1-4
11. Eastern Michigan 3-3
12. Akron 1-5
13. Kent State 1-5

1. WMU
2. Toledo
3. Temple

4-13. Irrelevant.

(10-08-2011 07:04 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  1. Western Michigan 4-2 (yes, I think they're that good)
2. Temple 4-2 (yes, I know they beat #3 head to head, but a rematch in the MACC would yield a different result)
3. Toledo 3-3
4. NIU 3-3 (by default, no one really deserves this spot)
5. Ohio 4-2 (bad loss at Buffalo)
6. Bowling Green 3-3
7. Ball State 3-3
8. Buffalo 2-4
9. Central Michigan 2-4
10. Miami 1-4
11. Eastern Michigan 3-3
12. Akron 1-5
13. Kent State 1-5

Really??? UT dominated the game. And UT is 5-1 whether everyone wants to believe it or not.

(10-08-2011 07:08 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 07:04 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  1. Western Michigan 4-2 (yes, I think they're that good)
2. Temple 4-2 (yes, I know they beat #3 head to head, but a rematch in the MACC would yield a different result)
3. Toledo 3-3
4. NIU 3-3 (by default, no one really deserves this spot)
5. Ohio 4-2 (bad loss at Buffalo)
6. Bowling Green 3-3
7. Ball State 3-3
8. Buffalo 2-4
9. Central Michigan 2-4
10. Miami 1-4
11. Eastern Michigan 3-3
12. Akron 1-5
13. Kent State 1-5

Really??? UT dominated the game. And UT is 5-1 whether everyone wants to believe it or not.

I have to agree with you on this one. We should be #3. That being said, I was impressed with the outcome against BSU.

Toledo is definely #2 over Temple...and will most likely move to #1 by the end of the season...

(10-08-2011 07:04 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  1. Western Michigan 4-2 (yes, I think they're that good)
2. Temple 4-2 (yes, I know they beat #3 head to head, but a rematch in the MACC would yield a different result)
3. Toledo 3-3
4. NIU 3-3 (by default, no one really deserves this spot)
5. Ohio 4-2 (bad loss at Buffalo)
6. Bowling Green 3-3
7. Ball State 3-3
8. Buffalo 2-4
9. Central Michigan 2-4
10. Miami 1-4
11. Eastern Michigan 3-3
12. Akron 1-5
13. Kent State 1-5

When did that happen?

(10-08-2011 07:07 PM)axeme Wrote:  1. WMU
2. Toledo
3. Temple

4-13. Irrelevant.

+1

1. Toledo
2. WMU
3./4. Temple/OhioU
5. NoILL

(10-08-2011 09:15 PM)nert Wrote:  1. Toledo
2. WMU
3./4. Temple/OhioU
5. NoILL

What about CeMIC?

(10-08-2011 07:07 PM)axeme Wrote:  1. WMU
2. Toledo
3. Temple

4-13. Irrelevant.

The top three may change positions over the course of the season, but I think 4-13 are pretty much set for the rest of 2011.

I have not given up on my Huskies. The WMU game will be huge next week.

(10-08-2011 09:19 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 09:15 PM)nert Wrote:  1. Toledo
2. WMU
3./4. Temple/OhioU
5. NoILL

What about CeMIC?

You can't rank "CeMIC" - their signature win is only NoILL. You have to beat someone better than that to get ranked.

At least NoILL beat Cal Poly.

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NOTE:
And the logic behind the abbreviation I use for NoILL is "recognized abbreviation for first word + 1st syllable for the state", not simply "2 letters of the first word + 3 letters of second word". I used all caps for Illinois because "Ill" looks like 3 lowercase "L"s in many fonts. So by that methodology, Central Michigan would still be CentMich, if CMU wasn't already unique and recognizable.

(10-08-2011 09:59 PM)nert Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 09:19 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 09:15 PM)nert Wrote:  1. Toledo
2. WMU
3./4. Temple/OhioU
5. NoILL

What about CeMIC?

You can't rank "CeMIC" - their signature win is only NoILL. You have to beat someone better than that to get ranked.

At least NoILL beat Cal Poly.

=====================================================

NOTE:
And the logic behind the abbreviation I use for NoILL is "recognized abbreviation for first word + 1st syllable for the state", not simply "2 letters of the first word + 3 letters of second word". I used all caps for Illinois because "Ill" looks like 3 lowercase "L"s in many fonts. So by that methodology, Central Michigan would still be CentMich, if CMU wasn't already unique and recognizable.

That's some convoluted logic.

So CMU is unique and recognizable, but NIU isn't?

(10-08-2011 09:59 PM)nert Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 09:19 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 09:15 PM)nert Wrote:  1. Toledo
2. WMU
3./4. Temple/OhioU
5. NoILL

What about CeMIC?

You can't rank "CeMIC" - their signature win is only NoILL. You have to beat someone better than that to get ranked.

At least NoILL beat Cal Poly.

=====================================================

NOTE:
And the logic behind the abbreviation I use for NoILL is "recognized abbreviation for first word + 1st syllable for the state", not simply "2 letters of the first word + 3 letters of second word". I used all caps for Illinois because "Ill" looks like 3 lowercase "L"s in many fonts. So by that methodology, Central Michigan would still be CentMich, if CMU wasn't already unique and recognizable.

Yep, Cal Poly is a signature win all right.

(10-08-2011 10:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 09:59 PM)nert Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 09:19 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  What about CeMIC?

You can't rank "CeMIC" - their signature win is only NoILL. You have to beat someone better than that to get ranked.

At least NoILL beat Cal Poly.

Yep, Cal Poly is a signature win all right.

That would be sarcasm. Thank you for realizing that it is funny.

Of course, it is also a joke at NoILL's expense (so I'm surprised you find it funny), because it says that beating NoILL is easier than beating a lower division school.

(10-08-2011 10:27 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 09:59 PM)nert Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 09:19 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  What about CeMIC?

NOTE:
And the logic behind the abbreviation I use for NoILL is "recognized abbreviation for first word + 1st syllable for the state", not simply "2 letters of the first word + 3 letters of second word". I used all caps for Illinois because "Ill" looks like 3 lowercase "L"s in many fonts. So by that methodology, Central Michigan would still be CentMich, if CMU wasn't already unique and recognizable.

That's some convoluted logic.

So CMU is unique and recognizable, but NIU isn't?

NIU, UNI = If you're not a MAC fan (or a MVC fan), do you know which is which? I didn't before I moved to the Great Lakes area. In fact I knew who Northern Iowa was before I had ever heard of Northern Illinois.

What other CMU is there? None that I can think of. No UCM either. You can't get it confused with something else - hence, it's unique.

Also - current I-A FB programs by winning percentage
Rank - - - NAME - - - - - - - Win PCT - Wins - - Losses
21 - - - Central Michigan - - 0.60615 - - 573 - - 366
64 - - - Northern Illinois - - -0.52042 - - 478 - - 439
Yeah, compared to NoILL; CMU is more recognizable by that standard too...

(10-08-2011 10:42 PM)nert Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 10:33 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 09:59 PM)nert Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 09:19 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  What about CeMIC?

You can't rank "CeMIC" - their signature win is only NoILL. You have to beat someone better than that to get ranked.

At least NoILL beat Cal Poly.

Yep, Cal Poly is a signature win all right.

That would be sarcasm.

Yea, I know, it was funny.

CMU-- Carnegie-Mellon

(10-08-2011 11:37 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  CMU-- Carnegie-Mellon

How are their sports teams?

(10-08-2011 11:55 PM)nert Wrote:  

(10-08-2011 11:37 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  CMU-- Carnegie-Mellon

How are their sports teams?

They play Div III ball now but a long time ago they were ranked as high as #6 in the nation in what today would be Div I teams, had the 4th best upset of all time by beating an undefeated ND team that would not lose again and only allowed two touchdowns all year, and played in the Sugar Bowl in 1938 against TCU (lost 15-7). They have a history.