(07-22-2011 07:42 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-22-2011 06:30 PM)GoGold Wrote:  

(07-21-2011 05:41 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-21-2011 04:30 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-21-2011 04:10 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Last week wasn't but 5 days ago. Secure the border by whatever means possible. You may have to put an ace of spades on a few armed drug runners heads, but hey, by whatever means possible.

The legalization,control and taxation of Cannabis would be a simpler and cheap solution to much of the violence and would generate billions of dollars in needed revenue

And would open the door to harder drugs, and would do nothing as an example to the kids that drug use is bad for you.

The first gateway drug is alcohol. Over 90% of the people on drugs harder than Cannabis first used alcohol.

At least a couple of countries in Europe have legalize Cannabis and it has been a huge success. Drug use across the board is down, drug use among the underaged has reduced even more.

By that thinking the first gateway drug could be Advil. 100% of the people on drugs harder than Cannabis first used Advil.

There are no huge successes on drugs in European countries. Period. Over time the goalposts of failure are moved and success becomes a cloudy smoke induced abstract word, where there is no difference between success and failure. Kind of like the American Education System.

So Stoner, someday you will have to smell the Sh!t you are shoveling.

Never tried Advil, BC's work just fine with me. But thanks for helping me blow the ole bull**** "gateway drug" out the water.

Stoner....LOL. I am 50 years old. My house and land is paid for, my truck is paid for, in fact other than the 3 $156 notes left on the Harley I don't owe a single dime to anyone. At 58 I will retire and keep my current standard of living until SS kicks in, providing I ever see a dime of it.

(07-23-2011 08:46 AM)TOGC Wrote:  No one talks about building a wall on the US-Canadian border. You're damn right it's racist.

When Canadians come into America and have babies in order to gain citizenship and reap social welfare benefits...then the same damn thing will happen on that border. They don't. Mexicans do. It is not racist. It is simply responding to a problem...albeit poorly.

I don't have an opinion on pot either way. I just think it's damned inconsistent for it to be illegal and alcohol to be legal.

Clearly, the marijuana enthusiasts need a better lobby.

(07-23-2011 09:01 AM)Smaug Wrote:  I don't have an opinion on pot either way. I just think it's damned inconsistent for it to be illegal and alcohol to be legal.

Clearly, the marijuana enthusiasts need a better lobby.

Yes...Tommy Chong does not seem be doing a good job as spokesperson.

(07-23-2011 08:59 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 08:46 AM)TOGC Wrote:  No one talks about building a wall on the US-Canadian border. You're damn right it's racist.

When Canadians come into America and have babies in order to gain citizenship and reap social welfare benefits...then the same damn thing will happen on that border. They don't. Mexicans do. It is not racist. It is simply responding to a problem...albeit poorly.

Stephen Colbert Commencement Speech to the Knox College Class of 2006:

Quote:And when you enter the workforce, you will find competition from those crossing our all-too-porous borders. Now I know you’re all going to say, “Stephen, Stephen, immigrants built America.” Yes, but here’s the thing—it’s built now. I think it was finished in the mid-70s sometime. At this point it’s a touch-up and repair job. But thankfully Congress is acting and soon English will be the official language of America. Because if we surrender the national anthem to Spanish, the next thing you know, they’ll be translating the Bible. God wrote it in English for a reason! So it could be taught in our public schools.

So we must build walls. A wall obviously across the entire southern border. That’s the answer. That may not be enough—maybe a moat in front of it, or a fire-pit. Maybe a flaming moat, filled with fire-proof crocodiles. And we should probably wall off the northern border as well. Keep those Canadians with their socialized medicine and their skunky beer out. And because immigrants can swim, we’ll probably want to wall off the coasts as well. And while we’re at it, we need to put up a dome, in case they have catapults. And we’ll punch some holes in it so we can breathe. Breathe free. It’s time for illegal immigrants to go—right after they finish building those walls. Yes, yes, I agree with me.

(07-23-2011 09:15 AM)TOGC Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 08:59 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 08:46 AM)TOGC Wrote:  No one talks about building a wall on the US-Canadian border. You're damn right it's racist.

When Canadians come into America and have babies in order to gain citizenship and reap social welfare benefits...then the same damn thing will happen on that border. They don't. Mexicans do. It is not racist. It is simply responding to a problem...albeit poorly.

Stephen Colbert Commencement Speech to the Knox College Class of 2006:

Quote:And when you enter the workforce, you will find competition from those crossing our all-too-porous borders. Now I know you’re all going to say, “Stephen, Stephen, immigrants built America.” Yes, but here’s the thing—it’s built now. I think it was finished in the mid-70s sometime. At this point it’s a touch-up and repair job. But thankfully Congress is acting and soon English will be the official language of America. Because if we surrender the national anthem to Spanish, the next thing you know, they’ll be translating the Bible. God wrote it in English for a reason! So it could be taught in our public schools.

So we must build walls. A wall obviously across the entire southern border. That’s the answer. That may not be enough—maybe a moat in front of it, or a fire-pit. Maybe a flaming moat, filled with fire-proof crocodiles. And we should probably wall off the northern border as well. Keep those Canadians with their socialized medicine and their skunky beer out. And because immigrants can swim, we’ll probably want to wall off the coasts as well. And while we’re at it, we need to put up a dome, in case they have catapults. And we’ll punch some holes in it so we can breathe. Breathe free. It’s time for illegal immigrants to go—right after they finish building those walls. Yes, yes, I agree with me.

Just to be clear...I oppose fence building. I think it is a nonsensical approach to the problem and makes America look like a damn gulag state. I also oppose anchor baby clause of our Constitution and the welfare state that incentivizes travelers to want to cross our borders. I welcome travelers..including non citizens..I just want them to do as they did for decades.. Work without ME having to pay benefits to them and return back to their home after the work is done.

They pay taxes. Every time they spend money in the US, they pay taxes.

(07-23-2011 09:27 AM)TOGC Wrote:  They pay taxes. Every time they spend money in the US, they pay taxes.

Tough sh!t. Price payed for their endeavors. That does not entitle them to free health care at your local Health Department. Did you know that it's illegal for a nurse at your health department to even inquire about someone's citizenship? F'ng nonsense.

(07-23-2011 08:21 AM)TOGC Wrote:  The US has always had a few racist right-wingers trying to keep out certain nationalities. In the past, it was the Irish or the Chinese. Now it's the Mexicans.

To hell with conservatives. Immigration made this country great.

Turds don't know the difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration. You are one of them.

(07-23-2011 09:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Tough sh!t.

You just summed up the entire Republican platform with those two words. Republicans don't give two $hits about people. They only worship at the church of the almighty dollar.

(07-23-2011 09:34 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Turds don't know the difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration.

You don't know the difference between a fairly applied policy and a racist policy. You are the turd.

(07-23-2011 09:41 AM)TOGC Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 09:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Tough sh!t.

You just summed up the entire Republican platform with those two words. Republicans don't give two $hits about people. They only worship at the church of the almighty dollar.

(07-23-2011 09:34 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Turds don't know the difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration.

You don't know the difference between a fairly applied policy and a racist policy. You are the turd.

And the Democrat platform is to buy a constituency with public funds.

Glass houses, other greg.

(07-23-2011 09:41 AM)TOGC Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 09:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Tough sh!t.

You just summed up the entire Republican platform with those two words. Republicans don't give two $hits about people. They only worship at the church of the almighty dollar.

(07-23-2011 09:34 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Turds don't know the difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration.

You don't know the difference between a fairly applied policy and a racist policy. You are the turd.

"Fairly" is a subjective term, Turd. Now you don't understand the definitions of fairly, illegal and legal and now, racist. You lose nowadays when you play the race card, it is overdone, means nothing anymore. How about sovereignty, can you guess that one???? Turd.

(07-23-2011 09:41 AM)TOGC Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 09:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Tough sh!t.

You just summed up the entire Republican platform with those two words. Republicans don't give two $hits about people. They only worship at the church of the almighty dollar.

(07-23-2011 09:34 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Turds don't know the difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration.

You don't know the difference between a fairly applied policy and a racist policy. You are the turd.

There is the difference...You believe giving people sh!t actually is helping them. How is that working out for the poor in America? All it has done is created an entire generation of non productive entitlement junkies and a welfare state that does little but line the pockets of middle class bureaucrats. Do we need to have a debate about the disparity between the effectiveness of private charity vs. the welfare state in regard to turning over dollars that they receive to those in need?

(07-23-2011 07:33 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 12:59 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Want a sign that our economy is in the shitter? Illegal immigration is now a net even. Meaning that the amount of people coming over the border is equal to those leaving for Mexico.

How do they count them?

taco sales.

(07-23-2011 09:53 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 09:41 AM)TOGC Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 09:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Tough sh!t.

You just summed up the entire Republican platform with those two words. Republicans don't give two $hits about people. They only worship at the church of the almighty dollar.

(07-23-2011 09:34 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Turds don't know the difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration.

You don't know the difference between a fairly applied policy and a racist policy. You are the turd.

There is the difference...You believe giving people sh!t actually is helping them. How is that working out for the poor in America? All it has done is created an entire generation of non productive entitlement junkies and a welfare state that does little but line the pockets of middle class bureaucrats. Do we need to have a debate about the disparity between the effectiveness of private charity vs. the welfare state in regard to turning over dollars that they receive to those in need?

That was created by people who don't give a $hit. Republicans thrive if there is a huge divide between the rich and the poor. They are systematically trying to erase the middle class.

(07-23-2011 09:55 AM)TOGC Wrote:  Republicans thrive if there is a huge divide between the rich and the poor.

So do Democrats. If you're going to demagogue, you need a boogeyman.

Nobody is looking out of the middle class. Nobody.

(07-23-2011 09:55 AM)TOGC Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 09:53 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 09:41 AM)TOGC Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 09:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Tough sh!t.

You just summed up the entire Republican platform with those two words. Republicans don't give two $hits about people. They only worship at the church of the almighty dollar.

(07-23-2011 09:34 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Turds don't know the difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration.

You don't know the difference between a fairly applied policy and a racist policy. You are the turd.

There is the difference...You believe giving people sh!t actually is helping them. How is that working out for the poor in America? All it has done is created an entire generation of non productive entitlement junkies and a welfare state that does little but line the pockets of middle class bureaucrats. Do we need to have a debate about the disparity between the effectiveness of private charity vs. the welfare state in regard to turning over dollars that they receive to those in need?

That was created by people who don't give a $hit. Republicans thrive if there is a huge divide between the rich and the poor. They are systematically trying to erase the middle class.

Oh yes...LBJ was Conservative.

(07-23-2011 09:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 09:55 AM)TOGC Wrote:  Republicans thrive if there is a huge divide between the rich and the poor.

So do Democrats. If you're going to demagogue, you need a boogeyman.

Nobody is looking out of the middle class. Nobody.

True Dat.

(07-23-2011 09:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 09:55 AM)TOGC Wrote:  Republicans thrive if there is a huge divide between the rich and the poor.

So do Democrats. If you're going to demagogue, you need a boogeyman.

Nobody is looking out of the middle class. Nobody.

The two parties are two sides of the same coin.

(07-23-2011 09:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 09:27 AM)TOGC Wrote:  They pay taxes. Every time they spend money in the US, they pay taxes.

Tough sh!t. Price payed for their endeavors. That does not entitle them to free health care at your local Health Department. Did you know that it's illegal for a nurse at your health department to even inquire about someone's citizenship? F'ng nonsense.

So you think it is better to have them die or pass on infectous diseases? Nice.

Yes I know, they shouldn't be here in the first place. But they are and always will be.