(07-23-2011 06:02 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 05:25 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 04:40 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 04:11 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 03:06 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  +1... Nothing is more enjoyable than seeing the light shown on the hypocrisy of Left. :ncaabbs:

Says the man who can't see the hypocrisy of smn1256's post.

none to see...comrade.

Not at all surprised you missed it.

Fo, I'm guessing he's pointing to how much better Obama is doing with deportations than Bush did....but then again, who knows what lurks in the minds of liberals.

I know exactly what lurks there...self loathing.

(07-23-2011 06:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 06:02 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 05:25 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 04:40 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 04:11 PM)RobertN Wrote:   Says the man who can't see the hypocrisy of smn1256's post.

none to see...comrade.

Not at all surprised you missed it.

Fo, I'm guessing he's pointing to how much better Obama is doing with deportations than Bush did....but then again, who knows what lurks in the minds of liberals.

I know exactly what lurks there...self loathing.

Well, lurking in yours is a fantasy world where somwhow this thing called "free market" exists and is the cureall for all our problems.

(07-23-2011 08:58 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 06:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 06:02 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 05:25 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 04:40 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  none to see...comrade.

Not at all surprised you missed it.

Fo, I'm guessing he's pointing to how much better Obama is doing with deportations than Bush did....but then again, who knows what lurks in the minds of liberals.

I know exactly what lurks there...self loathing.

Well, lurking in yours is a fantasy world where somwhow this thing called "free market" exists and is the cureall for all our problems.

Fantasy?...Theory?...Well.... It has never been even close to being tried for much of history...Why?.... Power mongers seeking control of the ability to use FORCE to siphon off the wealth from those actually create it.... regardless of what that loot eventually finances.

Robert?... Do you REALLY believe those in power in Washington(on either side of the isle) have YOUR best interests at heart? If you do...you need to be more observant. They BOTH are blood sucking leaches and power mongers.

I give my "fantasy" of evolution to a more voluntary system of governance a better chance than your coercive system remaining as the paradigm of the future. Why?...Well that is just the way freedom has evolved. We are just another step in that evolution.

Ill go ahead and give you a quote for the future...

"Liberty always trumps force...always has...always will"...Fo'Shizzle..7/23/11

Take that sh!t to the bank!

Fo Shizzle thinks that multi-national corporations have his best interests at heart. He's a moron.

(07-23-2011 10:13 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Fo Shizzle thinks that multi-national corporations have his best interests at heart. He's a moron.

On the contrary....I advocate a paradigm in which the consumer has the ability to actually control bad business behavior by withdrawing patronage and supporting those that exhibit good stewardship. I have nothing but contempt for bad neighbors...either next door to me.. or corporate.

I doubt you have the courage to actually seek ideas beyond your coercive paradigm...but if you get the notion...I suggest 2 books...."healing our world"..by Mary Ruwart and "The Market for Liberty"....by Linda and Morris Tannehill. both can be found in audio versions for free download to Ipods.

(07-23-2011 09:48 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 08:58 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 06:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 06:02 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 05:25 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Not at all surprised you missed it.

Fo, I'm guessing he's pointing to how much better Obama is doing with deportations than Bush did....but then again, who knows what lurks in the minds of liberals.

I know exactly what lurks there...self loathing.

Well, lurking in yours is a fantasy world where somwhow this thing called "free market" exists and is the cureall for all our problems.

Fantasy?...Theory?...Well.... It has never been even close to being tried for much of history...Why?.... Power mongers seeking control of the ability to use FORCE to siphon off the wealth from those actually create it.... regardless of what that loot eventually finances.

Robert?... Do you REALLY believe those in power in Washington(on either side of the isle) have YOUR best interests at heart? If you do...you need to be more observant. They BOTH are blood sucking leaches and power mongers.

I give my "fantasy" of evolution to a more voluntary system of governance a better chance than your coercive system remaining as the paradigm of the future. Why?...Well that is just the way freedom has evolved. We are just another step in that evolution.

Ill go ahead and give you a quote for the future...

"Liberty always trumps force...always has...always will"...Fo'Shizzle..7/23/11

Take that sh!t to the bank!

You have no clue as to what kind of system I prefer(other than it isn't the one in your fantasy world.

Oh, I do believe there are some that have my best interests at heart. Moreso on the left than the right though since I am not a wealthy man. I think that giving the worker power to negotiate fot a salary is a good thing(left) for me and giving corps all the power to determine what the worker is worth(right) is not a good thing for me. Let me be clear here, I am not saying that sometimes salaries of Union workers can't get out of hand and cause hardships on business but it is difficult to get any kind of fair salary if you can't negotiate a fair deal that works for both sides.

(07-23-2011 10:30 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 09:48 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 08:58 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 06:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(07-23-2011 06:02 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Fo, I'm guessing he's pointing to how much better Obama is doing with deportations than Bush did....but then again, who knows what lurks in the minds of liberals.

I know exactly what lurks there...self loathing.

Well, lurking in yours is a fantasy world where somwhow this thing called "free market" exists and is the cureall for all our problems.

Fantasy?...Theory?...Well.... It has never been even close to being tried for much of history...Why?.... Power mongers seeking control of the ability to use FORCE to siphon off the wealth from those actually create it.... regardless of what that loot eventually finances.

Robert?... Do you REALLY believe those in power in Washington(on either side of the isle) have YOUR best interests at heart? If you do...you need to be more observant. They BOTH are blood sucking leaches and power mongers.

I give my "fantasy" of evolution to a more voluntary system of governance a better chance than your coercive system remaining as the paradigm of the future. Why?...Well that is just the way freedom has evolved. We are just another step in that evolution.

Ill go ahead and give you a quote for the future...

"Liberty always trumps force...always has...always will"...Fo'Shizzle..7/23/11

Take that sh!t to the bank!

You have no clue as to what kind of system I prefer(other than it isn't the one in your fantasy world.

Oh, I do believe there are some that have my best interests at heart. Moreso on the left than the right though since I am not a wealthy man. I think that giving the worker power to negotiate fot a salary is a good thing(left) for me and giving corps all the power to determine what the worker is worth(right) is not a good thing for me. Let me be clear here, I am not saying that sometimes salaries of Union workers can't get out of hand and cause hardships on business but it is difficult to get any kind of fair salary if you can't negotiate a fair deal that works for both sides.

The paradigm I advocate does not prohibit collective bargaining. It also does not prohibit an employer from participation in it. The consumer decides...not politicians.