(07-04-2011 10:10 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Don't joke about Kudzu. You can't kill it unless you use an Herbicide that you need a HazMat suit and mask to apply. It just keeps growing and growing and growing.

Kinda like the federal government under Obama--and Shrub.

One thing about Perry is, I don't think he really wants to be President, and I'm sure he doesn't really want to run for President. I think he mainly just doesn't want Romney to be nominated. That might be a very admirable desire, both in terms of the country and in terms of the Republican Party. But it is probably not a sound basis on which to launch a national campaign for the presidency.

(07-04-2011 04:56 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  One thing about Perry is, I don't think he really wants to be President, and I'm sure he doesn't really want to run for President. I think he mainly just doesn't want Romney to be nominated. That might be a very admirable desire, both in terms of the country and in terms of the Republican Party. But it is probably not a sound basis on which to launch a national campaign for the presidency.

He couldnt care less about Romney. He just wants attention.

(07-04-2011 09:17 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 08:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 08:10 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  The scary part is that if Rick Perry enters the race he will gather lots of "Tea Party" support.
And Rick Perry is actually "Shrub Lite."

Maybe "Kudzu"? As in useless weed. But that was a good comic strip.
If our 2012 choice is between Governor Goodhair and Obama, we are pretty well hosed.

Governor Fabulous won't run because he doesnt want any info of his late night jaunts to 4th and Lavaca to come out in the national press. The Austin press lets those little indiscretions stay secret, but the national press wont be so professional.

Sounds like you've heard the same rumors that I have.

aTxTIGER Wrote:Governor Fabulous... doesn't want any info of his late night jaunts to 4th and Lavaca to come out in the national press. The Austin press lets those little indiscretions stay secret

Why is the Austin media so indulgent?

(07-04-2011 05:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 09:17 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 08:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 08:10 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  The scary part is that if Rick Perry enters the race he will gather lots of "Tea Party" support.
And Rick Perry is actually "Shrub Lite."

Maybe "Kudzu"? As in useless weed. But that was a good comic strip.
If our 2012 choice is between Governor Goodhair and Obama, we are pretty well hosed.

Governor Fabulous won't run because he doesnt want any info of his late night jaunts to 4th and Lavaca to come out in the national press. The Austin press lets those little indiscretions stay secret, but the national press wont be so professional.

Sounds like you've heard the same rumors that I have.

I have heard them as well. The crazy thing is that it apparently these trips occur often, and the Gov's "discretion" leaves much to be desired.

(07-04-2011 05:23 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 05:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 09:17 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 08:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 08:10 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  The scary part is that if Rick Perry enters the race he will gather lots of "Tea Party" support.
And Rick Perry is actually "Shrub Lite."

Maybe "Kudzu"? As in useless weed. But that was a good comic strip.
If our 2012 choice is between Governor Goodhair and Obama, we are pretty well hosed.

Governor Fabulous won't run because he doesnt want any info of his late night jaunts to 4th and Lavaca to come out in the national press. The Austin press lets those little indiscretions stay secret, but the national press wont be so professional.

Sounds like you've heard the same rumors that I have.

I have heard them as well. The crazy thing is that it apparently these trips occur often, and the Gov's "discretion" leaves much to be desired.

Who the heck cares if he often goes to gay clubs? Who really cares if he isn't discreet about it? He is married right? Well, it doesn't look like he and his wife are getting a divorce so obviously, it can't bother her THAT much, right. So who cares. Of course, we are talking about Texas where most down there hate gays/bisexuals.

(07-04-2011 05:01 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

aTxTIGER Wrote:Governor Fabulous... doesn't want any info of his late night jaunts to 4th and Lavaca to come out in the national press. The Austin press lets those little indiscretions stay secret

Why is the Austin media so indulgent?

if you knew the clubs that were at 4th and Lavaca, you would understand. The Austin media is not in the business of outing anyone.

(07-04-2011 05:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 09:17 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 08:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 08:10 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  The scary part is that if Rick Perry enters the race he will gather lots of "Tea Party" support.
And Rick Perry is actually "Shrub Lite."

Maybe "Kudzu"? As in useless weed. But that was a good comic strip.
If our 2012 choice is between Governor Goodhair and Obama, we are pretty well hosed.

Governor Fabulous won't run because he doesnt want any info of his late night jaunts to 4th and Lavaca to come out in the national press. The Austin press lets those little indiscretions stay secret, but the national press wont be so professional.

Sounds like you've heard the same rumors that I have.

They aren't rumors.

(07-04-2011 05:40 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 05:23 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 05:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 09:17 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 08:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Maybe "Kudzu"? As in useless weed. But that was a good comic strip.
If our 2012 choice is between Governor Goodhair and Obama, we are pretty well hosed.

Governor Fabulous won't run because he doesnt want any info of his late night jaunts to 4th and Lavaca to come out in the national press. The Austin press lets those little indiscretions stay secret, but the national press wont be so professional.

Sounds like you've heard the same rumors that I have.

I have heard them as well. The crazy thing is that it apparently these trips occur often, and the Gov's "discretion" leaves much to be desired.

Who the heck cares if he often goes to gay clubs? Who really cares if he isn't discreet about it? He is married right? Well, it doesn't look like he and his wife are getting a divorce so obviously, it can't bother her THAT much, right. So who cares. Of course, we are talking about Texas where most down there hate gays/bisexuals.

Why do you talk about Texas like it isnt a state of 24,000,000 people that has more social diversity than just about every other state in America? El Paso, Austin, and San Antonio are more liberal than almost anywhere in the nation. Hell, Houston has a lesbian mayor. What about New York or LA or Chicago?

(07-04-2011 07:09 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 05:40 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 05:23 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 05:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 09:17 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Governor Fabulous won't run because he doesnt want any info of his late night jaunts to 4th and Lavaca to come out in the national press. The Austin press lets those little indiscretions stay secret, but the national press wont be so professional.

Sounds like you've heard the same rumors that I have.

I have heard them as well. The crazy thing is that it apparently these trips occur often, and the Gov's "discretion" leaves much to be desired.

Who the heck cares if he often goes to gay clubs? Who really cares if he isn't discreet about it? He is married right? Well, it doesn't look like he and his wife are getting a divorce so obviously, it can't bother her THAT much, right. So who cares. Of course, we are talking about Texas where most down there hate gays/bisexuals.

Why do you talk about Texas like it isnt a state of 24,000,000 people that has more social diversity than just about every other state in America? El Paso, Austin, and San Antonio are more liberal than almost anywhere in the nation. Hell, Houston has a lesbian mayor. What about New York or LA or Chicago?

Because many of the rightwing nuts on here reside in Texas and it is fun to get under their skin. :) Besides, while there may be a few pockets of liberalism, much of it is extremely far right. Just look at most of the politicians.

As for Chicago, they just got a DINO for mayor. It is truely amazing how many tea party guys I have talked to or read their posts that are stunned by Rahm Emanuel and actually kind of like the guy! If I actually lived in Chicago, I would have voted for him even knowing he was a DINO because he was probably the most competent person running.

Anyone who uses the term DINO or RINO is an idiot. Robert, you are an idiot.

(07-04-2011 07:54 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Anyone who uses the term DINO or RINO is an idiot. Robert, you are an idiot.

Would you prefer I used "blue dog democrat"?

Quote:Would you prefer I used "blue dog democrat"?

Did Rahm Emanuel ever join the Blue Dog caucus during his years in Congress?

(07-04-2011 08:30 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

Quote:Would you prefer I used "blue dog democrat"?

Did Rahm Emanuel ever join the Blue Dog caucus during his years in Congress?

Nope because he isnt.

(07-04-2011 08:30 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

Quote:Would you prefer I used "blue dog democrat"?

Did Rahm Emanuel ever join the Blue Dog caucus during his years in Congress?

Hey, just telling you what I have heard from tea party guys. If they like him, he is obviously NOT the far left socialist you guys believe he is.

I don't think of Rahm Emanuel as a "far left socialist". I think of him as a typical urban-liberal Democrat, which is to the right of "far-left socialism" (and to the right of Barack Obama, too), but much to the left of (for lack of a better term) "Blue Dog-ism". If some Tea Party-types have expressed approval of some of his decisions as Mayor, it is probably because they expected him to be as bad as Obama himself.

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As to Rick Perry:

1. Craving attention and wanting to undermine the candidacy of Mitt Romney are not mutually-exclusive traits.

2. If the local media in Austin -- including the alternatives, not just the American-Statesman -- actually thinks Rick Perry is a familiar face in the gay-bar scene, or is a closeted homo, or anything similar to that, I do not believe they would just sit on that information month after month, year after year (Perry has held statewide office in Texas continually for more than 20 years). But if Perry really is in that position, it would be incredibly reckless and stupid for him to try and run for president.

3. For many "generic" political reasons, I don't think Rick Perry would be a very strong nominee for president next year. Of course, if things keep going the way they have been going, then the GOP could win anyway, even with a weak nominee.

(07-04-2011 09:25 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I don't think of Rahm Emanuel as a "far left socialist". I think of him as a typical urban-liberal Democrat, which is to the right of "far-left socialism" (and to the right of Barack Obama, too), but much to the left of (for lack of a better term) "Blue Dog-ism". If some Tea Party-types have expressed approval of some of his decisions as Mayor, it is probably because they expected him to be as bad as Obama himself.

....................

As to Rick Perry:

1. Craving attention and wanting to undermine the candidacy of Mitt Romney are not mutually-exclusive traits.

2. If the local media in Austin -- including the alternatives, not just the American-Statesman -- actually thinks Rick Perry is a familiar face in the gay-bar scene, or is a closeted homo, or anything similar to that, I do not believe they would just sit on that information month after month, year after year (Perry has held statewide office in Texas continually for more than 20 years). But if Perry really is in that position, it would be incredibly reckless and stupid for him to try and run for president.

He is. I have personally seen him multiple times at Rain down in the Austin Warehouse district. I would assume that the Statesman and the Austin Chronicle know about him since most of the gay scene in Austin does.

(07-04-2011 09:31 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 09:25 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I don't think of Rahm Emanuel as a "far left socialist". I think of him as a typical urban-liberal Democrat, which is to the right of "far-left socialism" (and to the right of Barack Obama, too), but much to the left of (for lack of a better term) "Blue Dog-ism". If some Tea Party-types have expressed approval of some of his decisions as Mayor, it is probably because they expected him to be as bad as Obama himself.

....................

As to Rick Perry:

1. Craving attention and wanting to undermine the candidacy of Mitt Romney are not mutually-exclusive traits.

2. If the local media in Austin -- including the alternatives, not just the American-Statesman -- actually thinks Rick Perry is a familiar face in the gay-bar scene, or is a closeted homo, or anything similar to that, I do not believe they would just sit on that information month after month, year after year (Perry has held statewide office in Texas continually for more than 20 years). But if Perry really is in that position, it would be incredibly reckless and stupid for him to try and run for president.

He is. I have personally seen him multiple times at Rain down in the Austin Warehouse district. I would assume that the Statesman and the Austin Chronicle know about him since most of the gay scene in Austin does.

I find this pretty hard to believe. If a Republican governor is out trolling gay bars, someone would be on it like a pitbull on a poodle. It's just too big a story.

To believe that would be to believe that Perry has some leverage over the Austin media that defies belief. This ain't Kennedy and the Mayflower Hotel. This is the 21st century, where every jackleg on the street has a smart phone and a youtube account.

(07-05-2011 08:20 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 09:31 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 09:25 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I don't think of Rahm Emanuel as a "far left socialist". I think of him as a typical urban-liberal Democrat, which is to the right of "far-left socialism" (and to the right of Barack Obama, too), but much to the left of (for lack of a better term) "Blue Dog-ism". If some Tea Party-types have expressed approval of some of his decisions as Mayor, it is probably because they expected him to be as bad as Obama himself.
....................
As to Rick Perry:
1. Craving attention and wanting to undermine the candidacy of Mitt Romney are not mutually-exclusive traits.
2. If the local media in Austin -- including the alternatives, not just the American-Statesman -- actually thinks Rick Perry is a familiar face in the gay-bar scene, or is a closeted homo, or anything similar to that, I do not believe they would just sit on that information month after month, year after year (Perry has held statewide office in Texas continually for more than 20 years). But if Perry really is in that position, it would be incredibly reckless and stupid for him to try and run for president.

He is. I have personally seen him multiple times at Rain down in the Austin Warehouse district. I would assume that the Statesman and the Austin Chronicle know about him since most of the gay scene in Austin does.

I find this pretty hard to believe. If a Republican governor is out trolling gay bars, someone would be on it like a pitbull on a poodle. It's just too big a story.
To believe that would be to believe that Perry has some leverage over the Austin media that defies belief. This ain't Kennedy and the Mayflower Hotel. This is the 21st century, where every jackleg on the street has a smart phone and a youtube account.

I know it is seems far-fetched. To make it even more so, Austin is easily the furthest left leaning city in Texas. But the rumors are very persistent, and I have heard them from numerous sources, including several that I would tend to believe are quite reliable.