I want 50% of the vote to go to the Tea Party candidates. I want Bachmann, Paul, Johnson, and Cain combined to get 50% of the vote or more. The three are already a third of the Iowa Caucus in the polls. I would enjoy nothing more than seeing Democrat-lite establishment wing of the GOP (Romney, Gingrinch, Santorum, Pawlenty) going down in epic flames.

(06-30-2011 10:06 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I want 50% of the vote to go to the Tea Party candidates. I want Bachmann, Paul, Johnson, and Cain combined to get 50% of the vote or more. The three are already a third of the Iowa Caucus in the polls. I would enjoy nothing more than seeing Democrat-lite establishment wing of the GOP (Romney, Gingrinch, Santorum, Pawlenty) going down in epic flames.

Santorum? WTF? he is 100% wingnut. Let's replace his name with Huntsman. As for Newt, I'm not even sure he's human.

(06-30-2011 10:06 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I want 50% of the vote to go to the Tea Party candidates. I want Bachmann, Paul, Johnson, and Cain combined to get 50% of the vote or more. The three are already a third of the Iowa Caucus in the polls. I would enjoy nothing more than seeing Democrat-lite establishment wing of the GOP (Romney, Gingrinch, Santorum, Pawlenty) going down in epic flames.

Would love to see that too.

Expect Newt to drop out early. I don't think his heart's in it.

(07-01-2011 07:41 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Expect Newt to drop out early. I don't think his heart's in it.

I think Newt's heart is in it, but I also think his ego will not permit him to finish in 8th place or whatever, which is probably what will happen the way things are going for him right now. So to me, the question is whether or not he will recognize that reality in time to withdraw and avoid the embarrassment of losing to Gary Johnson, etc., or will he believe his loyalists who tell him he can do "surprisingly well" and come in 3rd or 4th

Hasn't Romney already said he's skipping the Iowa caucuses?

(06-30-2011 10:06 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I want 50% of the vote to go to the Tea Party candidates. I want Bachmann, Paul, Johnson, and Cain combined to get 50% of the vote or more. The three are already a third of the Iowa Caucus in the polls. I would enjoy nothing more than seeing Democrat-lite establishment wing of the GOP (Romney, Gingrinch, Santorum, Pawlenty) going down in epic flames.

How is Santorum anything like a democrat?

I'd love to see the three ********* candidates take the majority of the vote as well; not one of them could beat Obama

(07-03-2011 11:07 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(06-30-2011 10:06 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I want 50% of the vote to go to the Tea Party candidates. I want Bachmann, Paul, Johnson, and Cain combined to get 50% of the vote or more. The three are already a third of the Iowa Caucus in the polls. I would enjoy nothing more than seeing Democrat-lite establishment wing of the GOP (Romney, Gingrinch, Santorum, Pawlenty) going down in epic flames.

How is Santorum anything like a democrat?

He's spineless on fiscal issues (just look at his voting record).

But he's realllllllllllllllll strong on Jesus if you have mistaken the President for your desired Preacher when voting.

(07-03-2011 02:34 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(07-03-2011 11:07 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(06-30-2011 10:06 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I want 50% of the vote to go to the Tea Party candidates. I want Bachmann, Paul, Johnson, and Cain combined to get 50% of the vote or more. The three are already a third of the Iowa Caucus in the polls. I would enjoy nothing more than seeing Democrat-lite establishment wing of the GOP (Romney, Gingrinch, Santorum, Pawlenty) going down in epic flames.

How is Santorum anything like a democrat?

He's spineless on fiscal issues (just look at his voting record).

But he's realllllllllllllllll strong on Jesus if you have mistaken the President for your desired Preacher when voting.

He sure does hate teh gays

(07-03-2011 11:07 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(06-30-2011 10:06 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I want 50% of the vote to go to the Tea Party candidates. I want Bachmann, Paul, Johnson, and Cain combined to get 50% of the vote or more. The three are already a third of the Iowa Caucus in the polls. I would enjoy nothing more than seeing Democrat-lite establishment wing of the GOP (Romney, Gingrinch, Santorum, Pawlenty) going down in epic flames.

How is Santorum anything like a democrat?

GTS(who voted for President Barack Obama) is the self proclaimed final arbiter of Conservative credentials. He has condemned all Social Conservatives and Peace through Strength Conservatives as RINOs, leaving only the very narrow libertarian wing of the party to be counted among the "true believers". The fact that he lists Bachmann and Cain among them makes me think he doesn't know much about their political positions.

(07-03-2011 03:14 PM)Know Nothing Wrote:  

(07-03-2011 11:07 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(06-30-2011 10:06 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I want 50% of the vote to go to the Tea Party candidates. I want Bachmann, Paul, Johnson, and Cain combined to get 50% of the vote or more. The three are already a third of the Iowa Caucus in the polls. I would enjoy nothing more than seeing Democrat-lite establishment wing of the GOP (Romney, Gingrinch, Santorum, Pawlenty) going down in epic flames.

How is Santorum anything like a democrat?

GTS(who voted for President Barack Obama) is the self proclaimed final arbiter of Conservative credentials. He has condemned all Social Conservatives and Peace through Strength Conservatives as RINOs, leaving only the very narrow libertarian wing of the party to be counted among the "true believers". The fact that he lists Bachmann and Cain among them makes me think he doesn't know much about their political positions.

Im pretty sure that GTS was one of my fellow Barr voters in 2008.

(07-03-2011 03:14 PM)Know Nothing Wrote:  

(07-03-2011 11:07 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(06-30-2011 10:06 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I want 50% of the vote to go to the Tea Party candidates. I want Bachmann, Paul, Johnson, and Cain combined to get 50% of the vote or more. The three are already a third of the Iowa Caucus in the polls. I would enjoy nothing more than seeing Democrat-lite establishment wing of the GOP (Romney, Gingrinch, Santorum, Pawlenty) going down in epic flames.

How is Santorum anything like a democrat?

GTS(who voted for President Barack Obama) is the self proclaimed final arbiter of Conservative credentials. He has condemned all Social Conservatives and Peace through Strength Conservatives as RINOs, leaving only the very narrow libertarian wing of the party to be counted among the "true believers". The fact that he lists Bachmann and Cain among them makes me think he doesn't know much about their political positions.

Bachmann, Cain, and Santorum are so far right on social issues that people like GTS and I could never vote for them. It's not about being "true believers" its about keeping government out of all of our lives not just our economic lives.

(07-03-2011 03:14 PM)Know Nothing Wrote:  GTS(who voted for President Barack Obama) is the self proclaimed final arbiter of Conservative credentials. He has condemned all Social Conservatives and Peace through Strength Conservatives as RINOs, leaving only the very narrow libertarian wing of the party to be counted among the "true believers". The fact that he lists Bachmann and Cain among them makes me think he doesn't know much about their political positions.

I voted Obama? That's news to me. Do tell me how you know I voted for Obama and not Bob Barr.

Secondly, peace through strength is NOT the same thing as peace through perpetual global empire / being the policemen of the world.

Thirdly, I'm well aware that Bachmann and Cain are quite some distance from Paul and Johnson on social issues. But they are far more credible on financial issues* than the others. And if you're not there financially, it's a non-starter. Being a fiscal conservative is the baseline bare minimum requirement.... and the others don't have it.

* Yes, I realize Cain supported TARP and Romney and is a former Fed goon. But he at least supports the Fair Tax, so he's not entirely incompetent.

I apologize GTS, I didnt meant to speak for you but I think i did.

(07-03-2011 03:25 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(07-03-2011 03:14 PM)Know Nothing Wrote:  GTS(who voted for President Barack Obama) is the self proclaimed final arbiter of Conservative credentials. He has condemned all Social Conservatives and Peace through Strength Conservatives as RINOs, leaving only the very narrow libertarian wing of the party to be counted among the "true believers". The fact that he lists Bachmann and Cain among them makes me think he doesn't know much about their political positions.

I voted Obama? That's news to me. Do tell me how you know I voted for Obama and not Bob Barr.

Secondly, peace through strength is NOT the same thing as peace through perpetual global empire / being the policemen of the world.

Thirdly, I'm well aware that Bachmann and Cain are quite some distance from Paul and Johnson on social issues. But they are far more credible on financial issues* than the others. And if you're not there financially, it's a non-starter. Being a fiscal conservative is the baseline bare minimum requirement.... and the others don't have it.

* Yes, I realize Cain supported TARP and Romney and is a former Fed goon. But he at least supports the Fair Tax, so he's not entirely incompetent.

I thought you had revealed some time back that you had voted for Obama because you believed that he would end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I may be confusing you with a different poster and do apologize for that.

Secondly, we certainly can(and in other posts did) debate the merits of American foreign policy. But the larger point I was trying to make is that the Republican party is a Coalition involving three parts, all of which are absolutely vital to Republicans winning national elections.

Your third point is much more succinct and one I have no qualms with. Fiscal conservatism IS a baseline bare minimum requirement. However, I do disagree with you identifying Gingrich and Santorum as part of the Democrat-lite establishment wing of the party. Both have very strong fiscal conservative credentials. Gingrich was speaker during the last time the U.S. operated under a balanced budget and created the nations longest government shutdown in an effort to reduce Federal spending. Santorum was a major player in the welfare reform legislation of the 1990s and led the push to privatize Social Security in 2004. I think you have unjustly put them in that "Democrat-lite" category out of distaste for their strong social Conservative views, which again bring me to the point that GOP is a coalition of three parts. If we choose a candidate that alienates any of the three parts then it will ensure another loss in 2012. This country can't afford(literally) four more years of Obama.

The scary part is that if Rick Perry enters the race he will gather lots of "Tea Party" support.

And Rick Perry is actually "Shrub Lite."

(07-04-2011 08:10 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  The scary part is that if Rick Perry enters the race he will gather lots of "Tea Party" support.

And Rick Perry is actually "Shrub Lite."

Maybe "Kudzu"? As in useless weed. But that was a good comic strip.

If our 2012 choice is between Governor Goodhair and Obama, we are pretty well hosed.

(07-04-2011 08:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 08:10 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  The scary part is that if Rick Perry enters the race he will gather lots of "Tea Party" support.

And Rick Perry is actually "Shrub Lite."

Maybe "Kudzu"? As in useless weed. But that was a good comic strip.

If our 2012 choice is between Governor Goodhair and Obama, we are pretty well hosed.

Governor Fabulous won't run because he doesnt want any info of his late night jaunts to 4th and Lavaca to come out in the national press. The Austin press lets those little indiscretions stay secret, but the national press wont be so professional.

(07-04-2011 08:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-04-2011 08:10 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  The scary part is that if Rick Perry enters the race he will gather lots of "Tea Party" support.

And Rick Perry is actually "Shrub Lite."

Maybe "Kudzu"? As in useless weed. But that was a good comic strip.

If our 2012 choice is between Governor Goodhair and Obama, we are pretty well hosed.

Don't joke about Kudzu. You can't kill it unless you use an Herbicide that you need a HazMat suit and mask to apply. It just keeps growing and growing and growing.