basketball add value to BE basketball? This post is in reference to ECU's team only.

(06-03-2011 02:20 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  basketball add value to BE basketball? This post is in reference to ECU's team only.

I don't know that they do. But I don't know that it matters. The weakness of the Big East is in football. And ECU would strengthen football.

(06-03-2011 02:20 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  basketball add value to BE basketball? This post is in reference to ECU's team only.

ECU Hoops improved a lot last season...and maybe...for the first time in a very long time, ECU might have a coach that can help them win (especially if he stays for a long time).

If ECU can finish above .500 in conf play this season...and continue to recruit better than in year's past (should be hard, especially in that crazy hoop state), ECU might end up being a Top 4 CUSA Team...and maybe...maybe...joining a top 6 "bcs/big hoop" conf in the future.

They have a fun small-to-midsize arena that puts students right on top of the court...and when packed...provides a big home court advantage.

This year will tell if ECU Hoops is still on the right path...or...was last year (where they finished .500 in league play and won 18 games overall) just an outlier.

PS. Apologize if the OP just wanted to start a smack board thread and wasn't serious to read objective answers...and if that's the case...move this thread to the smack board.
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Sadly, I was proven wrong...OP just wanted a smack thread...can SOME Moderator PLEASE MOVE THIS CRAP to the CRAP/SMACK BOARD? THANK YOU!

(06-03-2011 02:20 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  basketball add value to BE basketball? This post is in reference to ECU's team only.

I assume you mean "as a program", not the actual members of the team.

As a program ECU is located in one of the most talent rich areas of the country for college basketball players, a NEW market for the Big East. Big East programs would have exposure in this area. ECU routinely plays some games in the Fayetteville NC arena and has played games in Raleigh, Greensboro, and Charlotte tourneys in the past. Granted ECU's record has not been stellar, but ECU was able to hold up and be respectable in the old CUSA, which at one point was the 4th rated conference in the country.

Jeff Lebo has given ECU basketball new credibility and he looks to be staying awhile (turning down Penn State overtures).

Finally, Williams Arena had big crowds in the old CUSA and is routinely mentioned as being one of the toughest places to play because of the noise level provided by the students at court level and the low ceiling level. Separate practice facilities, a Pirate sports HOF, and new facade to the Coliseum are also being added after next basketball season. Some upgrades are expected in Williams Arena as well.

Here's a thread with the Coliseum improvement photo's...

http://www.ncaabbs.com/showthread.php?tid=480941

(06-03-2011 02:32 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(06-03-2011 02:20 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  basketball add value to BE basketball? This post is in reference to ECU's team only.

I assume you mean "as a program", not the actual members of the team.

As a program ECU is located in one of the most talent rich areas of the country for college basketball players, a NEW market for the Big East. Big East programs would have exposure in this area. ECU routinely plays some games in the Fayetteville NC arena and has played games in Raleigh, Greensboro, and Charlotte tourneys in the past. Granted ECU's record has not been stellar, but ECU was able to hold up and be respectable in the old CUSA, which at one point was the 4th rated conference in the country.

Jeff Lebo has given ECU basketball new credibility and he looks to be staying awhile (turning down Penn State overtures).

Finally, Williams Arena had big crowds in the old CUSA and is routinely mentioned as being one of the toughest places to play because of the noise level provided by the students at court level and the low ceiling level. Separate practice facilities, a Pirate sports HOF, and new facade to the Coliseum are also being added after next basketball season. Some upgrades are expected in Williams Arena as well.

The question was in reference to the team and nothing else. Anyone can talk about potential, facilities, etc.

I actually looked at this post even though I have him on my ignore list, and I was wondering how he thinks SMU basketball can add value to the BE?

(06-03-2011 02:49 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I actually looked at this post even though I have him on my ignore list, and I was wondering how he thinks SMU basketball can add value to the BE?

Yes, he cleverly added in his post that it was about ECU's team only

"basketball add value to BE basketball? This post is in reference to ECU's team only. "

This so you couldn't ask the question you just did...or mention that none of the other candidates are realistically any better in basketball (besides Temple)

(06-03-2011 02:49 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I was wondering how he thinks SMU basketball can add value to the BE?

SMU basketball is irrelevant in football expansion discussions...

(06-03-2011 02:49 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  

(06-03-2011 02:32 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(06-03-2011 02:20 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  basketball add value to BE basketball? This post is in reference to ECU's team only.

I assume you mean "as a program", not the actual members of the team.

As a program ECU is located in one of the most talent rich areas of the country for college basketball players, a NEW market for the Big East. Big East programs would have exposure in this area. ECU routinely plays some games in the Fayetteville NC arena and has played games in Raleigh, Greensboro, and Charlotte tourneys in the past. Granted ECU's record has not been stellar, but ECU was able to hold up and be respectable in the old CUSA, which at one point was the 4th rated conference in the country.

Jeff Lebo has given ECU basketball new credibility and he looks to be staying awhile (turning down Penn State overtures).

Finally, Williams Arena had big crowds in the old CUSA and is routinely mentioned as being one of the toughest places to play because of the noise level provided by the students at court level and the low ceiling level. Separate practice facilities, a Pirate sports HOF, and new facade to the Coliseum are also being added after next basketball season. Some upgrades are expected in Williams Arena as well.

The question was in reference to the team and nothing else. Anyone can talk about potential, facilities, etc.

OK...so Jeff Lebo is the coach of the "team". He is well respected and has tons of local NC ties, including ENC ties to ECU through his wife.

Robert Sampson is the son of Ralph Sampson and is a rising Sophomore and wil be around for awhile.

ECU has a new PG in a Missouri transfer that sat out last year.

It also has one of the best big men in CUSA in Darius Morrow, who lost weight last year and routinely dominated on the court. He single handidly took over a game at Marshall, scoring over 30 and fouling out all of their big men.

What else did you want to know? A Charlotte transfer SG is coming in this year. Another SG true freshmen from Charlotte is also coming in, a guy that scored 30 on the #1 ranked HS team last year and helped beat them.

As well, I believe all 4 seniors that left this year are on pace for graduation or have graduated.

(06-03-2011 02:20 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  basketball add value to BE basketball? This post is in reference to ECU's team only.

By bringing along ECU's football, which is something that the Big East needs more of.

This is like saying, what does Duke and North Carolina bring to SEC in terms of football. I think the Big East is strong enough in basketball. The help is needed on the football side.

West.. what is it you are looking for? a pissing match? If so, I'm sure you are correct... West is best.......

(06-03-2011 02:20 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  basketball add value to BE basketball? This post is in reference to ECU's team only.

None of us are on the team.

(06-03-2011 02:20 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  basketball add value to BE basketball? This post is in reference to ECU's team only.

Not much, but it seems to be irrelevant given the fact that TCU has already received and accepted an invitation.

The BE concerning itself with improving hoops at this point would be like a schoolkid who heads into finals with an A locked up in one class and a shot to go from a D to a B in the another spending all of his time studying for the first class instead of the second.

(06-03-2011 02:27 PM)EerMeNow Wrote:  

(06-03-2011 02:20 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  basketball add value to BE basketball? This post is in reference to ECU's team only.

I don't know that they do. But I don't know that it matters. The weakness of the Big East is in football. And ECU would strengthen football.

How would an ECU football program that has only 4 winning seasons in the past 10 years and has lost 3 bowl games in a row & 5 of their last 6 strengthen Big East Football???

(06-03-2011 03:05 PM)Smokin Pirate Wrote:  West.. what is it you are looking for? a pissing match? If so, I'm sure you are correct... West is best.......

It is a simple question. If it's a pissing match that comes from your end.

Tell us about ECU BB team, players, history, etc that add value to the BE.

Facilities, future potential, recruiting potential can be sold by any team. Your area of NC is no hot bed for recruiting. If these issue were significant for admission then UH would have been in the SEC or Big 12 years ago. Same for many other teams.

Let's make it easy for ECU fans.

Tell us about your Conference Championships, Top 25 rankings, All Americans, Grad rates, etc..

(06-03-2011 02:32 PM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(06-03-2011 02:20 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  basketball add value to BE basketball? This post is in reference to ECU's team only.

I assume you mean "as a program", not the actual members of the team.

As a program ECU is located in one of the most talent rich areas of the country for college basketball players, a NEW market for the Big East. Big East programs would have exposure in this area. ECU routinely plays some games in the Fayetteville NC arena and has played games in Raleigh, Greensboro, and Charlotte tourneys in the past. Granted ECU's record has not been stellar, but ECU was able to hold up and be respectable in the old CUSA, which at one point was the 4th rated conference in the country.

Jeff Lebo has given ECU basketball new credibility and he looks to be staying awhile (turning down Penn State overtures).

Finally, Williams Arena had big crowds in the old CUSA and is routinely mentioned as being one of the toughest places to play because of the noise level provided by the students at court level and the low ceiling level. Separate practice facilities, a Pirate sports HOF, and new facade to the Coliseum are also being added after next basketball season. Some upgrades are expected in Williams Arena as well.

Your area of NC is hardly a recruiting hotbed. By your by inviting SMU, SMU delivers the whole state of Texas for recruiting.

(06-03-2011 04:14 PM)West Is the Best Wrote:  

(06-03-2011 03:05 PM)Smokin Pirate Wrote:  West.. what is it you are looking for? a pissing match? If so, I'm sure you are correct... West is best.......

It is a simple question. If it's a pissing match that comes from your end.

Tell us about ECU BB team, players, history, etc that add value to the BE.

... Your area of NC is no hot bed for recruiting... .

I realize that you intend your posts to be provocative; no doubt with the intention of starting trouble, however what you posted above is beyond silly; it is actually pretty dumb. One of the knocks that East Carolina has always had; is that considering all of the basketball talent that is in their immediate region, there is no reason that East Carolina should have been as bad in basketball as they have always been. And that is one of the reasons that Lebo was hired (and probably why he didn't leave), because with the talent in that area; East Carolina and Lebo are sitting on a gold mine.

Just off the top of my head, without even looking anything up I know for a fact that Eastern North Carolina players were on UNC, Miami, Marshall, ODU, VCU, Rhode Island and Auburn at the end of 2010-2011 season. There were alot more kids from that region that were on D1 teams, but I don't have the time or inclination to even bother looking it up. However, Eastern North Carolina has produced a lot of great basketball players, including a guy by the name of Mike Jordan.

BTW, here are some of the top recruits from Eastern North Carolina. Notice their national rank and then notice that I put an asterik by the kids that listed ECU as one of their final choices:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...ie-bullock

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...hal-parker *

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...zl-harrell *

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketba...n-rountree *


With the exception of Bullock, all of those kids were high on ECU; but ECU isn't going to land any of those top recruits in their area until they become a consistent winner.

What does TCU basketball bring to the BE, besides another win for the bottom of the league?