(10-22-2009 04:38 PM)Gambler Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 04:30 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  That's a Kentucky problem.

Teflon X will skate on this as usual.

:iagree:

The ones on here that seem to be giving Wall a full exemption from all of this are basically saying one of two things.

1) Theres nothing wrong with bribery
2) John Wall is too stupid to understand that hes conspiring to commit an act that is unethical and is cause for being ruled ineligible.

If he or any member of his family accepted money for his enrollment at UK then he should be punished. Its that simple. He might not be the brightest kid but hes smart enough to know whats right and wrong here and accepting benefits is unethical. As for the "ruin your career" aspect, spare me. Hes going to be a great NBA player next season with or without the holdover at UK. He could sit around eating cornpuffs and watching Spongebob and he'll still be a lottery pick. I knwo everyone wants the animosity towards Cal to stop but to start saying we should all sweep this under the rug? Thats ridiculous.

(10-22-2009 05:48 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 05:46 PM)oldman Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 04:28 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Hahahahahaha.

Typical response from a warped, angry fan. Your happy because a kid might not be eligible to play basketball and try to make something of himself? Even if it is at Kentucky, you shouldnt wish bad things no matter if Cal is the coach or not. I am sure he can play at some point, but to rejoice at a kids hardship is as classless as you can get. If he were a Tiger and that happened, you would call the Wildcat fans classless if they rejoiced like you have. Grow up all those that find joy in a 18 year old kids problems. I bet your life is perfect.

Very well stated, thanks.

I dont think people are laughing at the kid's problem..cause honestly, it will probably get worked out and he will play and go on to make millions...

I for one am laughing at all the KY fans Ive been personallytaking grief from for the last few months...the ones who claim X doesnt have to be shady now cause they are KY...

I am laughing cause now they have to defend and worry.

(10-22-2009 05:58 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  The ones on here that seem to be giving Wall a full exemption from all of this are basically saying one of two things.

1) Theres nothing wrong with bribery
2) John Wall is too stupid to understand that hes conspiring to commit an act that is unethical and is cause for being ruled ineligible.

If he or any member of his family accepted money for his enrollment at UK then he should be punished. Its that simple. He might not be the brightest kid but hes smart enough to know whats right and wrong here and accepting benefits is unethical. As for the "ruin your career" aspect, spare me. Hes going to be a great NBA player next season with or without the holdover at UK. He could sit around eating cornpuffs and watching Spongebob and he'll still be a lottery pick. I knwo everyone wants the animosity towards Cal to stop but to start saying we should all sweep this under the rug? Thats ridiculous.

:iagree:

(10-22-2009 05:46 PM)oldman Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 04:28 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Hahahahahaha.

Typical response from a warped, angry fan. Your happy because a kid might not be eligible to play basketball and try to make something of himself? Even if it is at Kentucky, you shouldnt wish bad things no matter if Cal is the coach or not. I am sure he can play at some point, but to rejoice at a kids hardship is as classless as you can get. If he were a Tiger and that happened, you would call the Wildcat fans classless if they rejoiced like you have. Grow up all those that find joy in a 18 year old kids problems. Even if Wall has had problems in the past, he is a kid. Its not that its even John Wall, to rejoice in any young man's problems is classless. I am sure I will get bashed, but I cant see how grown men can find joy in others problems. I bet your life is perfect.

Kids problem? He willingly accepted benefits illegally. Where does this fall under "hardship"? If he had a car accident or medical, family issue then my thoughts and prayers go out. Are you trying to defend Bernie Madoff as well?

I love this quote from Jerry Tarkanian...

"the NCAA is so mad at Kentucky, it put Cleveland State on probation"

I suppose we better hope Wall is eligible.

wonder if X= poop in ice cream , looks like some players dont like the smell of what X is cooking,

I don't find joy in Wall's problems, but I understand those who find humor in Kentucky/X's problems.

As for Wall's problems, he does bear some responsiblity, because he chose his AAU coach. Heck, he chose his HS too.

If "issues in his past" relate directly to the situation, like choosing an AAU coach who was an agent (and planned to be one again after Wall's NCAA days), then those decisions are not irrelevant.

But Wall will be fine. He would be playing in the NBA this year if they didn't have that rule, and if he needs to play in Europe, he will make a lot of money there for a year. (3 guesses who his agent will be).

But I don't think he'll miss more than a few games, because that's how the NCAA rolls with the blue bloods.

(10-22-2009 06:01 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 05:46 PM)oldman Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 04:28 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Hahahahahaha.

Typical response from a warped, angry fan. Your happy because a kid might not be eligible to play basketball and try to make something of himself? Even if it is at Kentucky, you shouldnt wish bad things no matter if Cal is the coach or not. I am sure he can play at some point, but to rejoice at a kids hardship is as classless as you can get. If he were a Tiger and that happened, you would call the Wildcat fans classless if they rejoiced like you have. Grow up all those that find joy in a 18 year old kids problems. Even if Wall has had problems in the past, he is a kid. Its not that its even John Wall, to rejoice in any young man's problems is classless. I am sure I will get bashed, but I cant see how grown men can find joy in others problems. I bet your life is perfect.

Kids problem? He willingly accepted benefits illegally. Where does this fall under "hardship"? If he had a car accident or medical, family issue then my thoughts and prayers go out. Are you trying to defend Bernie Madoff as well?

Please be sure and let us know we you have a setback in your life, all the idiots that rejoice at others problems might be having a slow day that day and they might need a new target. If your only joy is because of others misfortune, you might need to make a visit on Sundays instead of playing on the computer all day.

Wall will go real early in the next nba draft regardless of whether he plays at uk or not.

I'll be surprised if he can't play, i figured X would get whatever he wanted this one year as "part of the deal" with the ncaa.

I aint gonna lie. I think its funny. I think something is wrong with you if you dont find it funny.

Money slipped under the table will bring an audit. Intention to defraud! Any chance Criminal Penalties connected to intentional Fraud?

(10-22-2009 04:52 PM)tigeriron Wrote:  "ya see eric, i suspected the wall thing might come to this. now do you trust me?"

GOOD ONE!!!!! +1

I really did want to see Wall play,, X there ain't no rest for the wicked....

Hey guys, Wall never committed to Memphis. We are not involved. This is Calsucky's baby!

(10-22-2009 06:06 PM)oldman Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 06:01 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 05:46 PM)oldman Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 04:28 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Hahahahahaha.

Typical response from a warped, angry fan. Your happy because a kid might not be eligible to play basketball and try to make something of himself? Even if it is at Kentucky, you shouldnt wish bad things no matter if Cal is the coach or not. I am sure he can play at some point, but to rejoice at a kids hardship is as classless as you can get. If he were a Tiger and that happened, you would call the Wildcat fans classless if they rejoiced like you have. Grow up all those that find joy in a 18 year old kids problems. Even if Wall has had problems in the past, he is a kid. Its not that its even John Wall, to rejoice in any young man's problems is classless. I am sure I will get bashed, but I cant see how grown men can find joy in others problems. I bet your life is perfect.

Kids problem? He willingly accepted benefits illegally. Where does this fall under "hardship"? If he had a car accident or medical, family issue then my thoughts and prayers go out. Are you trying to defend Bernie Madoff as well?

Please be sure and let us know we you have a setback in your life, all the idiots that rejoice at others problems might be having a slow day that day and they might need a new target. If your only joy is because of others misfortune, you might need to make a visit on Sundays instead of playing on the computer all day.

Spare me your worship service father. Maybe I'm wrong but I believe in accountability. He knew he was doing something wrong and did it anyway. This is no hardship. Greed is not a hardship, it's one of the seven deadly sins pastor. Better yet, Im gonna go out and rob an old lady tonight but it's ok because it was just a hardship in my life and I'm sure people will be breaking down my door to tell me how sorry they are that I had to endure such punishment for a hardship.

I hear the NCAA is so mad at UK over this that they are going to vacate Memphis' 08-09 season!

Ok, I'm just a little confused (not unusual, I'll admit).

First statement: Brian Clifton, Wall's AAU coach, was a certified agent with FIBA, basketball's international governing body, for nearly a year. Under NCAA rule that equates to Wall accepting illegal benefits from an agent.

So, if Brian Clifton was not a certified agent with FIBA, then John Wall would not have accepted illegal benefits, correct?

I guess is it so hard to imagine that John Wall didn't know and probably didn't care what Brian Clifton certification with FIBA was? Yeah, maybe that's a little foolhardy on his part but hell, doesn't seem like the actions of a hardened criminal.

Maybe I missed part of the story or you guys are just way ahead of me.

For what it's worth, I bet this kid doesn't miss a day of playing time. The money will get paid back, NCAA will say all is forgiven, and John Wall will play all games.

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