(10-23-2009 12:09 AM)Jordai Wrote:  I'm sure Catpause is going nuts right now. Anybody see any crazy posts?

yeah it's catpause, they're all CRAZY!!! Seriously though, want a good laugh? Go there! They are nuts!

Coach Cal................KARMA is on line 1. The NCAA is on line 2. The time has come for this a$$hat to get what he deserves!!!!

(10-22-2009 10:24 PM)nhillis Wrote:  I'm interested to see where this thread will be 20 posts from now.

West has to go

I strongly suspect that Wall has a verbal contract with Clifton, but that's going to be impossible to prove.
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a verbal contract is not worth the paper it is written on,
I will stay tuned and see how this plays out, it should be entertaining if nothing else. One key component of all this is Slive. He has 11 other schools to answer to along with Ky and these schools have much more clout than the rest of CUSA seemed to have when Cal was here. They are watching KY closely in all of its dealings and will not hesitate to sound the alarm. ring the bell, scream bloody murder or whatever every chance they get.

(10-22-2009 05:58 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  The ones on here that seem to be giving Wall a full exemption from all of this are basically saying one of two things.

1) Theres nothing wrong with bribery
2) John Wall is too stupid to understand that hes conspiring to commit an act that is unethical and is cause for being ruled ineligible.

If he or any member of his family accepted money for his enrollment at UK then he should be punished. Its that simple. He might not be the brightest kid but hes smart enough to know whats right and wrong here and accepting benefits is unethical. As for the "ruin your career" aspect, spare me. Hes going to be a great NBA player next season with or without the holdover at UK. He could sit around eating cornpuffs and watching Spongebob and he'll still be a lottery pick. I knwo everyone wants the animosity towards Cal to stop but to start saying we should all sweep this under the rug? Thats ridiculous.

UNETHICAL...Now I wouldn't go that far. Against NCAA rules yes.

All of this talk about how glad we are that we don't have to deal with this kinda stuff anymore with recruits is really dumb in my opinion. How do you know that we will not have to deal with this kind of situation with a recruit in the future? How can anyone say that we will always know everything about a recruit and nothing new will ever surface after a kid signs?
If John Wall suddenly changed his mind right now and said he wants to come to Memphis, (and it was some how possible...we know it wouldn't be) then 99% on this board would have a sudden change of heart on the issue. I mean, Memphis fans would gladly take Wall even if he had to miss 3 or 4 games at the start the season before being declared eligible. Memphis fans would take him even if the number of games missed was increased if it meant Wall would eventually suit up in Memphis blue.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying things haven't changed at Memphis with Pastner, I'm saying that Memphis would still take chances at landing star players like a John Wall.

(10-22-2009 08:16 PM)oldman Wrote:  

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(10-22-2009 04:28 PM)UMTiger02 Wrote:  Hahahahahaha.

Typical response from a warped, angry fan. Your happy because a kid might not be eligible to play basketball and try to make something of himself? Even if it is at Kentucky, you shouldnt wish bad things no matter if Cal is the coach or not. I am sure he can play at some point, but to rejoice at a kids hardship is as classless as you can get. If he were a Tiger and that happened, you would call the Wildcat fans classless if they rejoiced like you have. Grow up all those that find joy in a 18 year old kids problems. Even if Wall has had problems in the past, he is a kid. Its not that its even John Wall, to rejoice in any young man's problems is classless. I am sure I will get bashed, but I cant see how grown men can find joy in others problems. I bet your life is perfect.

Kids problem? He willingly accepted benefits illegally. Where does this fall under "hardship"? If he had a car accident or medical, family issue then my thoughts and prayers go out. Are you trying to defend Bernie Madoff as well?

Please be sure and let us know we you have a setback in your life, all the idiots that rejoice at others problems might be having a slow day that day and they might need a new target. If your only joy is because of others misfortune, you might need to make a visit on Sundays instead of playing on the computer all day.

Spare me your worship service father. Maybe I'm wrong but I believe in accountability. He knew he was doing something wrong and did it anyway. This is no hardship. Greed is not a hardship, it's one of the seven deadly sins pastor. Better yet, Im gonna go out and rob an old lady tonight but it's ok because it was just a hardship in my life and I'm sure people will be breaking down my door to tell me how sorry they are that I had to endure such punishment for a hardship.

Did you celebrate when Hunt got suspended? What about when Dozier got in trouble? Or maybe when Dorsey made it rain money on Beale. How bout the fact that Taggart left early and didnt get drafted, did that make you happy? The same with Burks, he was watching a dice game and got shot. I bet that made you very happy. He shouldnt have been watching an illegal activity. He had to pay the price for that action didnt he. Young men make mistakes, or get greedy, whatever you want to call it and you celebrate. I have no problem with holding people accountable, I am a big supporter of that very word, but to celebrate a kid, or young mans misfortune is classless. But you have to have class to know what class is, and you seem to be missing that attribute.

At what point did you think I was celebrating John Walls ineligibility? Im not celebrating it but Im also not gonna sit and tell him everything is going to be ok. Im not condoning anything those other guys did either. Your argument tarnishes those kids out there that truly do have a hardship and dont get the support they need to get through it.

(10-23-2009 02:20 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(10-22-2009 05:58 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  The ones on here that seem to be giving Wall a full exemption from all of this are basically saying one of two things.

1) Theres nothing wrong with bribery
2) John Wall is too stupid to understand that hes conspiring to commit an act that is unethical and is cause for being ruled ineligible.

If he or any member of his family accepted money for his enrollment at UK then he should be punished. Its that simple. He might not be the brightest kid but hes smart enough to know whats right and wrong here and accepting benefits is unethical. As for the "ruin your career" aspect, spare me. Hes going to be a great NBA player next season with or without the holdover at UK. He could sit around eating cornpuffs and watching Spongebob and he'll still be a lottery pick. I knwo everyone wants the animosity towards Cal to stop but to start saying we should all sweep this under the rug? Thats ridiculous.

UNETHICAL...Now I wouldn't go that far. Against NCAA rules yes.

Accepting illegal benefits for an amateur sport is unethical. Period.

hypothetically, what if wall is found to be ineligible and he is now practicing with the team(which he is) what kind of rules are broken for doing so? a "pro" practicing with the "amateurs"?

The key to this whole thing was just mentioned. UTK, Florida, and the rest of the SEC will not sit back and watch Calipari do what he was able to do here. The SEC doesn't need the money or exposure that CUSA needed. CUSA let Calipari do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted to.

The SEC is a football conference with zillions of dollars. Calipari will be exposed and out of college basketball within a couple of years max. Everything he has accomplished was done by bending and breaking the rules, down right cheating and lying and stealing, But he'll still be smiling in the end with literally tens of millions of dollars in the bank. Unless someone beats his a$$.

(10-23-2009 10:29 AM)Luvthegame Wrote:  All of this talk about how glad we are that we don't have to deal with this kinda stuff anymore with recruits is really dumb in my opinion. How do you know that we will not have to deal with this kind of situation with a recruit in the future? How can anyone say that we will always know everything about a recruit and nothing new will ever surface after a kid signs?
If John Wall suddenly changed his mind right now and said he wants to come to Memphis, (and it was some how possible...we know it wouldn't be) then 99% on this board would have a sudden change of heart on the issue. I mean, Memphis fans would gladly take Wall even if he had to miss 3 or 4 games at the start the season before being declared eligible. Memphis fans would take him even if the number of games missed was increased if it meant Wall would eventually suit up in Memphis blue.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying things haven't changed at Memphis with Pastner, I'm saying that Memphis would still take chances at landing star players like a John Wall.

Of course you always taked more calcuated risks with a star player, since a star player can help your team in many more ways than an average player. Could their be some recruits who have issues the administration or even the coaches do not now about it in the end? I bet it happens all the time. That is the nature of big time major revenue producing sports, and that will not change anytime soon.

(10-23-2009 05:48 PM)cmt Wrote:  The key to this whole thing was just mentioned. UTK, Florida, and the rest of the SEC will not sit back and watch Calipari do what he was able to do here. The SEC doesn't need the money or exposure that CUSA needed. CUSA let Calipari do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted to.

The SEC is a football conference with zillions of dollars. Calipari will be exposed and out of college basketball within a couple of years max. Everything he has accomplished was done by bending and breaking the rules, down right cheating and lying and stealing, But he'll still be smiling in the end with literally tens of millions of dollars in the bank. Unless someone beats his a$$.

I agree with all you said, but when did former University of Memphis Head Basketball Coach John Calipari personally cheat someone? Did he help someone cheat on a test? That no one minus Kentucky Coach Calipari or Derrick Rose none of us will really never know, but it would make feel a lot better about this situation regarding it. However, I get a feeling the U of M Men's Basketball Fans will never now.

ummmmm this could be interesting for the X.



http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4586311

(10-24-2009 12:04 PM)djfanintn Wrote:  ummmmm this could be interesting for the X.



http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4586311

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