(11-04-2026 12:17 AM)Curumim Wrote:  

Pretty sure he said this in 2018 too. Like most things, don't believe it until you see it. Of course it's also a two-way street...So...

(11-04-2026 01:46 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:43 AM)glacier_dropsy Wrote:  350 million spent to keep El-Sayad out of the Senate. He is an impressive politician.

He’s going to significantly underperform the national dem lean today, and he’ll be voted out in 6 years if his inability to mend fences with the moderates in his party is any indication. The dems could have nominated anybody with a pulse and won in Michigan today.

Only if the opponent wasn't perennial loser Mike Rogers. The only reason this was as "close" as it was is because he's Muslim. And it wasn't really all that close. Slotkin only beat rogers by .3%.

(11-04-2026 02:13 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:59 AM)glacier_dropsy Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:46 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:43 AM)glacier_dropsy Wrote:  350 million spent to keep El-Sayad out of the Senate. He is an impressive politician.

He’s going to significantly underperform the national dem lean today, and he’ll be voted out in 6 years if his inability to mend fences with the moderates in his party is any indication. The dems could have nominated anybody with a pulse and won in Michigan today.

But they didn't, they nominated a brilliant American Muslim, who didn't run from his faith. And he won.

Yeah, that falls in the set of “anybody with a pulse”.

FWIW, his issues aren’t his heritage or his faith, but rather his extreme socialist views and inability to find common ground with other democrats he deems to be not liberal enough. Republicans in Texas tried to paint Talarico with that brush but the insults didn’t stick bc he’s not actually that liberal. Abdul-Sayed, however, is Bernie Sanders-level liberal, without Sanders’ charisma and ability to pull others into his orbit. He’ll lose by 5 points in 2032, perhaps even 10 points.

Not in Michigan, dude. That simply will not happen...less there is some major scandal.

(11-04-2026 07:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 12:17 AM)Curumim Wrote:  

Pretty sure he said this in 2018 too. Like most things, don't believe it until you see it. Of course it's also a two-way street...So...

Trump should veto and and all of their stupid social justice BS if they put that forward. Anything they pass economic, he should hold a big press conference, say he disagrees with it but is signing it. That way, when it’s a disaster as everything else the Dems touch on the economy, Republicans in 2028 can run on having nothing to do with it.

And before any Dem tries to argue, I’ll give you:

Exhibit A - the “affordable care act” which made everyone’s insurance shyttier at a much higher price

Exhibit B- the “inflation reduction act” which skyrocketed inflation.

These idiots on the left aren’t bringing any affordability to America. They created this mess to begin with and will only make it worse. Make them own it.

(11-04-2026 08:27 AM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  F*** you, Elvis.

Seriously, f*** you

Take a break.

Seriously, put him on ignore so you can stop being so dramatic.

Yes you will, when you get banned - again.

(11-04-2026 08:28 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 08:27 AM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  F*** you, Elvis.

Seriously, f*** you

Take a break.

Seconded.

(11-04-2026 08:28 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 08:27 AM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  F*** you, Elvis.

Seriously, f*** you

Take a break.

No kidding. It’s not the end of the world. It’s veto city for 2 years where the Dems accomplish nothing. When the cost of living is worse than it is now, the fickle voters who switched congress from red to blue this time will flip it back in 2028. Just sit back and enjoy the Dem shht show for 2 years. They have a big top circus tent full of entertaining loons

(11-04-2026 08:49 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 08:28 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 08:27 AM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  F*** you, Elvis.

Seriously, f*** you

Take a break.

No kidding. It’s not the end of the world. It’s veto city for 2 years where the Dems accomplish nothing. When the cost of living is worse than it is now, the fickle voters who switched congress from red to blue this time will flip it back in 2028. Just sit back and enjoy the Dem shht show for 2 years. They have a big top circus tent full of entertaining loons

We've all seen this movie before.

The party in power ALWAYS loses the midterms.

What makes this year so unsettling is the utter whack jobs that democrats vote in.

Again, people forget the Democrats had the White House and both houses of Congress less than 4 years ago. It wasn't pretty. Trump is not Bush and will bow down to the Democrats like he did.

(11-03-2026 11:44 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-03-2026 11:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Here to eat my crow. I thought there was no way Texas would go for far left candidates like the Democrat candidates for governor and senate. These candidates do not reflect Texas public opinion. That said—they do reflect the thinking of the people who DID show up to vote. Trump did the Republicans no favors in 2026. To me—this was not reflective of a Blue mandate in Texas. It was a reflection of a turnout election where Democrats were motivated and Trumps 2026 governance did little to motivate Republicans to go to polls. Texas will return to the solid red column in the next election—but this should be a sobering moment for Trump to understand that if your losing Texas—your doing it wrong.

Abbot was a good governor and Jackson was a good candidate in Georgia. Trump downplaying food and gas prices and pushing BAD senate candidates dragged down the ticket.

It figured Dems would hold NH and GA and pickup NC with a popular former governor. We knew OH, IA and TX were close, but Dems got those. They are currently up 12 points in Texas with 82% in. Kansas and South Carolina were shockers with the Dems up 5-6% with over 90% of the vote in. Its 51-40 Dems right now. But that isn't all:

Idaho 38% in, Rep 46, Ind 45
LA 88% in Rep 53, Dem 47
MS 88% in Dem 49.0, Rep 48.9
NE 56% in IND 49, Rep 46
MT 29% in Rep 48%, IND 38%
Alaska hasn't closed yet.

But there was an anti-incumbent mode, not just anti-Republican:
MN 37% in Rep 51, Dem 46
MI 45% in Dem 51, Rep 47

And surprisingly, the Senate didn't rest on Maine:
48% in Collins 49.9, Jackson 49.0

LA, NE and MT ended up Republican but close. Democrats ended up with 52-53% in MN, MI and ME. Alaska and Mississippi too close to call, so its 54-44.

Mississippi should not be too close to call. LA, NE and MT should not be close. The Democrats should never have picked up Kansas, Texas and South Carolina. Iowa and Ohio, formerly purple, have leaned increasingly red, but it was a bad night for Republicans, also losing 3 House seats in Iowa and 3 in Ohio. North Carolina and Maine were likely going to be Democrat this time. But the Republicans have already lost 7 Senate seats with two still undecided.

Republicans also lost governorships in Ohio , Iowa, Georgia and Texas. Bad candidates dragged down the whole ticket and took out good governors/candidates in Georgia and Texas. Alaska, Kansas and Nevada are too close to call, but the Democrats are ahead. Alaska and Nevada were Republican held. Kansas was thought to be a sure Republican pickup. Its 27-20 right now.

I only see two Republican pickups so far, one in Tennessee and one in Texas, both likely due to redistricting of the House.

(11-04-2026 07:37 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 12:17 AM)Curumim Wrote:  

Pretty sure he said this in 2018 too. Like most things, don't believe it until you see it. Of course it's also a two-way street...So...

Trump was never a Republican. Had they not attacked him personally, the Dems could have gotten his signature on a lot of stuff. They screwed that pooch from day zero. It was a stupid choice. Trump's ego could have been used to pass lots of popular programs.

They can't back off now. They will reject the olive branch and Trump will beat them over the head with vetos.

(11-04-2026 09:29 AM)bullet Wrote:  I only see two Republican pickups so far, one in Tennessee and one in Texas, both likely due to redistricting of the House.

TN is definitely due to redistricting Memphis into “pie slices” the same way they did Nashville in 2022.

(11-04-2026 02:36 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  Trump's Iran debacle completely screwed the Republican party and all of his supporters. Now Dems are back in control and will stop Trump from accomplishing anything he had intended to do. His legacy will be overshadowed with how bad he mishandled Iran.

He will be the one who finally ended the Iran threat.

He mishandled the whole framing of Iran. But its his normal inability to stick to the script and constantly speak in hyperbole.

People see the continually rising food and gas prices every day. He didn't have any visible plan to deal with it, just a few bandaids like his diesel deal with Russia.

It was much like the anger with HW in 1992. We had a recession and he was out fishing still trying to overcome the false Dem stereotype of him as a wimp. He knew we were coming out of the recession, but the timing was a month late (unemployment dropped a lot in the November report after the election) and he was not talking about the reasons it was looking better. He didn't understand the anger. I volunteered for HW in 1988, but I didn't in 1992 because I didn't want to deal with the angry phone calls.

(11-04-2026 06:30 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 05:54 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(11-03-2026 11:37 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The border is the main issue and voter registration and citizenship requirements.

Other than that, we sit and wait to see who replaces the smart businessman with the arrested development of a 14-year-old who must taunt his adversaries after every victory. Getting his people in was immature enough, but not allowing credit to go to those in the states who worked for him helped with this election debacle. If your people succeed praise them. If they help you succeed thank them. And if a state has some favorites go with them. His singular vision got some things done for us. His voracious ego's need to be aggrandized cost us many more. I like Trump but the states would not have let him and us down if he had been quietly and privately interested instead of hands on.

Most sensible post of the thread. Trump is 90% right on policy. But he is 100% erratic in his behavior. The result is a relapse back to the progressivism that is corroding our nation.

I think we will survive this. But only if/when conservatives lose their equally unhealthy fascination with a man-child with serious self-control issues. Instead of showing real leadership during this second chance we received in 2024, conservatives for the most part timidly tried to laugh off very juvenile behavior - - “Ha ha, isn’t he just the funniest president ever?”

History will record this as a blown opportunity. Hopefully not worse.

Let's also not pretend that Trump hasn't suffered the same challenges we roasted Biden over - old age. I know this is a sensitive issue with many here and I get it - a lot of you guys are sharp minded. But ask yourself - how sharp would your mind really be if you had to commit to the grind demanded of the presidency?

You can have the greatest ideas in the world. However, if you cannot build a solid consensus of support to pull it off then what good are you? Ironically, the so called great deal maker wasn't capable of closing the most important deals out there - a bipartisan consensus.

You know what would truly make this country great and a force to be reckoned with? Showing the current members of the house and the senate how by working together you all will personally become very rich. That's the morally repugnant "secret" that would have truly made MAGA a force to be reckoned with. He didn't allow enough politicians to "get a taste" or let them "get their beaks wet".....

It was not possible. The Democrats in Congress have never accepted that Hillary lost. They have been in shock ever since. Trump sabotaged himself by making enemies of people who should have been allies, but most Democrats were never possible.

I'm pleasantly surprised that, seemingly, not one right-winger has mentioned "voter fraud" in this thread.

I also haven't seen much chest-thumping from the lefties. That's a positive too. Has Gitanole posted?

(11-04-2026 09:49 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I'm pleasantly surprised that, seemingly, not one right-winger has mentioned "voter fraud" in this thread.

I also haven't seen much chest-thumping from the lefties. That's a positive too.

The "win so big they can't claim its rigged" crowd won, big. I think the closest you'll see calls of shenanigans will be in Alaska and Mississippi given they're close. As for chest thumping... I think we're all too exhausted.