(10-25-2026 08:34 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 08:06 AM)mattresspolice Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 05:37 AM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(10-24-2026 11:44 PM)Galaxybrain09 Wrote:  

(10-24-2026 08:09 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  Rather be the worst team in this conference than the conference we were in that won’t be here in a few more seasons.

Yeah, ok, buddy. Keep trying to justify the dumb, haphazard move while our former MAC rivals are all laughing at us.

What about the MAC is dying don’t you understand???

Explain why you think this is true.

This version of the Mountain West is a lateral move. The Horizon for all other sports is a backwards move.

Miami Ohio left, Toledo and Ohio are following quickly.

They did? Dang, I guess I missed the press releases.

(10-25-2026 07:06 AM)Huskies_1030 Wrote:  The Huskies struggles have nothing to do with the Mountain West. NIU is in a fight for survival as an FBS program because as constituted right now, it is an FCS program with FCS talent all around. No offense to MWC, but quality of play this year is no better than the MAC. NIU would got rolled just as bad in the MAC with this team out there.

Why is it so important to you to be in a FBS program? I like winning. Yesterday was an embarrassment as was 2 weeks ago. We were WINNING in the 4th qtr against ISU AFTER spotting them 21 points. That was clearly our best game of the season. It would have a wasted day yesterday if it weren't for the nice drive home on a beautiful fall afternoon after leaving in the 3rd qtr.
I like winning. After beating some DIV 3 team last year in BB someone said we should be embarrassed. No, my friend looked at me and said no, we like winning.
Losing sucks. Get in a flag football league if ya can't compete.

(10-25-2026 11:19 AM)El Duderino Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 07:06 AM)Huskies_1030 Wrote:  The Huskies struggles have nothing to do with the Mountain West. NIU is in a fight for survival as an FBS program because as constituted right now, it is an FCS program with FCS talent all around. No offense to MWC, but quality of play this year is no better than the MAC. NIU would got rolled just as bad in the MAC with this team out there.

Why is it so important to you to be in a FBS program? I like winning. Yesterday was an embarrassment as was 2 weeks ago. We were WINNING in the 4th qtr against ISU AFTER spotting them 21 points. That was clearly our best game of the season. It would have a wasted day yesterday if it weren't for the nice drive home on a beautiful fall afternoon after leaving in the 3rd qtr.
I like winning. After beating some DIV 3 team last year in BB someone said we should be embarrassed. No, my friend looked at me and said no, we like winning.
Losing sucks. Get in a flag football league if ya can't compete.

I like competing- I don’t want a trophy no one cares about. I like trying my best and seeing how I measure up, because I’m not a puss. Everyone isn’t great at everything- if you aren’t good at something, get better. In our case it’s hiring a real staff. Grabbing every D2 player in the portal might not be the answer. Adapt after you see what failed.

This season sucks but it’s a giant data point. You have be buttoned up strategic and thoughtful about everything you do in the mountain west. This isn’t the MAC where 1 good player can carry you across the line every game.

You have to have a team. You have to have a defense and offense. Insane thought, but we need a team. What we have is trash. Everyone has to do better, and the staff needs to hope their local high schools or juco are hiring they all suck.

That is all. Fire everyone. Do better.

Of course we need NIL funds, but there are teams with a lower budget and less NIL money than NIU, but they still field a decent team and win games. Of course, if we ever got a sizable NIL budget, we’d need an administration willing to spend it and spend it properly.

This year's results have nothing to do with being in the MWC. It's the fact that this is our worst team in a long, long time. They would have a losing record in the MAC too. The MWC is not extraordinarily difficult. Like the MAC it is good at the top and decidedly not good at the bottom. Once we get an actual FBS roster we'll compete just fine in the MWC. In the mean time we'll cash much larger checks and play on Saturdays. Pining for the MAC is absurd.

(10-25-2026 11:09 AM)mattresspolice Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 08:34 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 08:06 AM)mattresspolice Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 05:37 AM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(10-24-2026 11:44 PM)Galaxybrain09 Wrote:  Yeah, ok, buddy. Keep trying to justify the dumb, haphazard move while our former MAC rivals are all laughing at us.

What about the MAC is dying don’t you understand???

Explain why you think this is true.

This version of the Mountain West is a lateral move. The Horizon for all other sports is a backwards move.

Miami Ohio left, Toledo and Ohio are following quickly.

They did? Dang, I guess I missed the press releases.

No they didn’t leave. The American didn’t want the 40 mil they were offering and went with JMU who’s only paying 23 mil to the American. What does that tell you about the MAC. Ohio University, who looked to get into the sunbelt before the season started, now has the opening since JMU is leaving.

I’m sure that will be discussed here in the next couple months. Someone is going to want to get into the sunbelt from the MAC or CUsa. Which school is going to pay the most is my guess. Where we got PAID to join a better conference.

(10-25-2026 01:08 PM)NIU1981 Wrote:  This year's results have nothing to do with being in the MWC. It's the fact that this is our worst team in a long, long time. They would have a losing record in the MAC too. The MWC is not extraordinarily difficult. Like the MAC it is good at the top and decidedly not good at the bottom. Once we get an actual FBS roster we'll compete just fine in the MWC. In the mean time we'll cash much larger checks and play on Saturdays. Pining for the MAC is absurd.

Nailed it

(10-25-2026 11:09 AM)mattresspolice Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 08:34 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 08:06 AM)mattresspolice Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 05:37 AM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(10-24-2026 11:44 PM)Galaxybrain09 Wrote:  Yeah, ok, buddy. Keep trying to justify the dumb, haphazard move while our former MAC rivals are all laughing at us.

What about the MAC is dying don’t you understand???

Explain why you think this is true.

This version of the Mountain West is a lateral move. The Horizon for all other sports is a backwards move.

Miami Ohio left, Toledo and Ohio are following quickly.

They did? Dang, I guess I missed the press releases.

Following quickly implies they haven't but will soon

Give NIU a coach I think they will compete in the MW. It just sucks that the first year in a real conference they have a Temu coach. Any coach from the past 25 years would be better than whatever is happening at the moment.

(10-25-2026 02:27 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  Give NIU a coach I think they will compete in the MW. It just sucks that the first year in a real conference they have a Temu coach. Any coach from the past 25 years would be better than whatever is happening at the moment.

This is year 0.

We are literally 2 years removed from having beaten Notre Dame who played in the national championship the year we beat them. Anyone thinking a good coaching hire won’t bring us back to respectability needs their head checked. We joined the Mountain West, not the Big Ten , 12, or SEC. Things can turn around just as quick as it turned into a dumpster fire.

(10-25-2026 08:50 AM)Rawdog10 Wrote:  Several things can be true at the same time. The MAC as we knew it is dead in the water. It will fall apart in the next two years (maybe by the end of this season). So getting out of it before the music stopped probably saved our program. It was 100% the right move, and you will soon see why when half the teams leave (while paying exit fees to the MAC and entry fees to other conferences), and it is backfilled with FCS teams. It will be a very bad place to end up, if it exists at all. That’s the good news.

The bad news is that, financially, we can’t compete in our new conference. Take a look at the numbers for yourself: https://nil-ncaa.com/mw/

We are second to last in conference for operating revenue, with all but one legacy MWC team bringing in a least double the revenue, if not triple in the case of UNLV. Our booster contributions are dead least by a long shot (Wyoming raises four times as much). Our school fees contributions lag behind only NDSU. We are now *way* poorer than the rest of the schools in our league. That won’t change by getting a better tv deal because all the other schools will be making at least at much (except for NDSU, which doesn’t get media money). So we are likely going to be in a Rutgers-like situation where we are the poorest team in a richer league.

All this means that, unless we can get our hands on A LOT more money, we are going to be structurally limited in who we can hire as coaches and buy as players. The bottom line is we survived, which is great, but we are probably looking at a walking dead, Rutgers-type situation for the foreseeable future.

Here I come with FCS talk yet again..

I dont disagree with anything said here. If we take all that "newfound" MWC money, does that allow us to keep pace with other MWC schools or are we using every last dime to simply try to keep up with pulling players? If we are still at net negative compared to peer MWC schools, we are drowning slowly but surely. Does NIU and its alumni have the real appetite to at least float in a neutral state, or does FBS become heavier and heavier in bias against G6 programs that its a losing battle (which I feel it is)

(10-25-2026 08:50 AM)Rawdog10 Wrote:  Several things can be true at the same time. The MAC as we knew it is dead in the water. It will fall apart in the next two years (maybe by the end of this season). So getting out of it before the music stopped probably saved our program. It was 100% the right move, and you will soon see why when half the teams leave (while paying exit fees to the MAC and entry fees to other conferences), and it is backfilled with FCS teams. It will be a very bad place to end up, if it exists at all. That’s the good news.

The bad news is that, financially, we can’t compete in our new conference. Take a look at the numbers for yourself: https://nil-ncaa.com/mw/

We are second to last in conference for operating revenue, with all but one legacy MWC team bringing in a least double the revenue, if not triple in the case of UNLV. Our booster contributions are dead least by a long shot (Wyoming raises four times as much). Our school fees contributions lag behind only NDSU. We are now *way* poorer than the rest of the schools in our league. That won’t change by getting a better tv deal because all the other schools will be making at least at much (except for NDSU, which doesn’t get media money). So we are likely going to be in a Rutgers-like situation where we are the poorest team in a richer league.

All this means that, unless we can get our hands on A LOT more money, we are going to be structurally limited in who we can hire as coaches and buy as players. The bottom line is we survived, which is great, but we are probably looking at a walking dead, Rutgers-type situation for the foreseeable future.

Here I come with FCS talk yet again..

I dont disagree with anything said here. If we take all that "newfound" MWC money, does that allow us to keep pace with other MWC schools or are we using every last dime to simply try to keep up with pulling players? If we are still at net negative compared to peer MWC schools, we are drowning slowly but surely. Does NIU and its alumni have the real appetite to at least float in a neutral state, or does FBS become heavier and heavier in bias against G6 programs that its a losing battle (which I feel it is)

(10-25-2026 02:27 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  Give NIU a coach I think they will compete in the MW. It just sucks that the first year in a real conference they have a Temu coach. Any coach from the past 25 years would be better than whatever is happening at the moment.

Hey now, some Temu things work....this one doesn't work at all

(10-25-2026 02:27 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  Give NIU a coach I think they will compete in the MW. It just sucks that the first year in a real conference they have a Temu coach. Any coach from the past 25 years would be better than whatever is happening at the moment.

Of course we'll be competitive, and likely migrate towards the top of the MWC.

This thread was started by some stop-by-once-in-a-while-to-throw-shade-at-NIU hack. What a joke.

New leadership, refreshed roster, bowl game around the corner.

(10-25-2026 04:43 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 02:27 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  Give NIU a coach I think they will compete in the MW. It just sucks that the first year in a real conference they have a Temu coach. Any coach from the past 25 years would be better than whatever is happening at the moment.

Of course we'll be competitive, and likely migrate towards the top of the MWC.

This thread was started by some stop-by-once-in-a-while-to-throw-shade-at-NIU hack. What a joke.

New leadership, refreshed roster, bowl game around the corner.

NIU needs a new AD, its the only way to change the football program around . Short of that, if leadership does not change, Id argue for NIU becoming basketball only school. Frazier already stated his vision was NIU in the FCS, and thats certainly where this thing is headed. If it goes that route, I say scrap it and focus only on basketball.

(10-25-2026 05:37 PM)Huskies_1030 Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 04:43 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 02:27 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  Give NIU a coach I think they will compete in the MW. It just sucks that the first year in a real conference they have a Temu coach. Any coach from the past 25 years would be better than whatever is happening at the moment.

Of course we'll be competitive, and likely migrate towards the top of the MWC.

This thread was started by some stop-by-once-in-a-while-to-throw-shade-at-NIU hack. What a joke.

New leadership, refreshed roster, bowl game around the corner.

NIU needs a new AD, its the only way to change the football program around . Short of that, if leadership does not change, Id argue for NIU becoming basketball only school. Frazier already stated his vision was NIU in the FCS, and thats certainly where this thing is headed. If it goes that route, I say scrap it and focus only on basketball.

NIU in the FCS? When was that stated. Not being sarcastic, seriously when was that stated or implied?

(10-25-2026 05:37 PM)Huskies_1030 Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 04:43 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 02:27 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  Give NIU a coach I think they will compete in the MW. It just sucks that the first year in a real conference they have a Temu coach. Any coach from the past 25 years would be better than whatever is happening at the moment.

Of course we'll be competitive, and likely migrate towards the top of the MWC.

This thread was started by some stop-by-once-in-a-while-to-throw-shade-at-NIU hack. What a joke.

New leadership, refreshed roster, bowl game around the corner.

NIU needs a new AD, its the only way to change the football program around . Short of that, if leadership does not change, Id argue for NIU becoming basketball only school. Frazier already stated his vision was NIU in the FCS, and thats certainly where this thing is headed. If it goes that route, I say scrap it and focus only on basketball.

Interesting, when did he say that?

(10-25-2026 05:37 PM)Huskies_1030 Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 04:43 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(10-25-2026 02:27 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  Give NIU a coach I think they will compete in the MW. It just sucks that the first year in a real conference they have a Temu coach. Any coach from the past 25 years would be better than whatever is happening at the moment.

Of course we'll be competitive, and likely migrate towards the top of the MWC.

This thread was started by some stop-by-once-in-a-while-to-throw-shade-at-NIU hack. What a joke.

New leadership, refreshed roster, bowl game around the corner.

NIU needs a new AD, its the only way to change the football program around . Short of that, if leadership does not change, Id argue for NIU becoming basketball only school. Frazier already stated his vision was NIU in the FCS, and thats certainly where this thing is headed. If it goes that route, I say scrap it and focus only on basketball.

Sean Frazier has NEVER suggested that NIU football drop to FCS……never. He did suggest that the G6 consider having a championship playoff outside of the P4. Those are NOT the same things……stop making things up to support your arguments.

There are two FBS conferences currently ranked below an FCS conference and they are the MAC and CUSA. NIU is not a member of either conference so I am not sure where all this FCS nonsense keeps coming from. NIU football definitely needs a full rebuild but the Mountain West has a far higher ceiling over the MAC and it is not even close.