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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-25-2026 06:01 PM)HuskieDave Wrote: (10-25-2026 05:37 PM)Huskies_1030 Wrote: (10-25-2026 04:43 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: (10-25-2026 02:27 PM)Big_Man Wrote: Give NIU a coach I think they will compete in the MW. It just sucks that the first year in a real conference they have a Temu coach. Any coach from the past 25 years would be better than whatever is happening at the moment.
Of course we'll be competitive, and likely migrate towards the top of the MWC.
This thread was started by some stop-by-once-in-a-while-to-throw-shade-at-NIU hack. What a joke.
New leadership, refreshed roster, bowl game around the corner.
NIU needs a new AD, its the only way to change the football program around . Short of that, if leadership does not change, Id argue for NIU becoming basketball only school. Frazier already stated his vision was NIU in the FCS, and thats certainly where this thing is headed. If it goes that route, I say scrap it and focus only on basketball.
Sean Frazier has NEVER suggested that NIU football drop to FCS……never. He did suggest that the G6 consider having a championship playoff outside of the P4. Those are NOT the same things……stop making things up to support your arguments.
Lol, I remember that. Honestly with how powerful the P4 is now, seems like a great idea. But then again, aren't they expanding the playoffs, which would mean more superb G6s make it in.
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-25-2026 06:11 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote: There are two FBS conferences currently ranked below an FCS conference and they are the MAC and CUSA. NIU is not a member of either conference so I am not sure where all this FCS nonsense keeps coming from. NIU football definitely needs a full rebuild but the Mountain West has a far higher ceiling over the MAC and it is not even close.
Comparing the MAC and MWC is meaningless right now, if there is a difference its small. The real problem is determining if NIU should remain an FBS school for football. If no change in leadership is made at highest levels, its time to consider letting football go and pour more money into basketball. Frazier has destroyed NIU athletics, almost all by himself
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HawaiiToNIU
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-25-2026 06:17 PM)Huskies_1030 Wrote: (10-25-2026 06:11 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote: There are two FBS conferences currently ranked below an FCS conference and they are the MAC and CUSA. NIU is not a member of either conference so I am not sure where all this FCS nonsense keeps coming from. NIU football definitely needs a full rebuild but the Mountain West has a far higher ceiling over the MAC and it is not even close.
Comparing the MAC and MWC is meaningless right now, if there is a difference its small. The real problem is determining if NIU should remain an FBS school for football. If no change in leadership is made at highest levels, its time to consider letting football go and pour more money into basketball. Frazier has destroyed NIU athletics, almost all by himself
Lol, so let's runway from MW money because we are having a couple of bad seasons after beating Notre Dame. Just burn it all down and work towards becoming a solid competitor at the FCS level.
We know what we are capable of. We acknowledge we are in a massive hole right now, and it will take a lot to get out of it. But who says we are quitting?
And why would we consider letting football go, if we have never been a basketball school since I can remember. I mean, it wasn't long ago cps coaches blacklisted us because of Patton.
It sucks my man, but nobody said we are quitting. STF finally hired who seems like a competent basketball coach, he also hired a baseball coach who took us out of the gutter and into the tourney in two seasons. Our men's soccer and golf programs did some remarkable things recently.
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
The MWC gave you a lifeline into another dimension. You aren’t missing anything over here in the MAC.
You are living your best timeline. Hopefully things will take off with some strong hiring within the athletic department.
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-24-2026 11:44 PM)Galaxybrain09 Wrote: (10-24-2026 08:09 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote: Rather be the worst team in this conference than the conference we were in that won’t be here in a few more seasons.
Yeah, ok, buddy. Keep trying to justify the dumb, haphazard move while our former MAC rivals are all laughing at us.
I’m not laughing at you - I’m envious. I always have been. The MAC is on borrowed time - Miami is leaving, and Toledo and Ohio U are right around the corner.
From what I’ve heard not many FCS teams are interested in moving to the MAC. That says a lot, I think, about the conference’s future.
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-25-2026 08:50 AM)Rawdog10 Wrote: Several things can be true at the same time. The MAC as we knew it is dead in the water. It will fall apart in the next two years (maybe by the end of this season). So getting out of it before the music stopped probably saved our program. It was 100% the right move, and you will soon see why when half the teams leave (while paying exit fees to the MAC and entry fees to other conferences), and it is backfilled with FCS teams. It will be a very bad place to end up, if it exists at all. That’s the good news.
The bad news is that, financially, we can’t compete in our new conference. Take a look at the numbers for yourself: https://nil-ncaa.com/mw/
We are second to last in conference for operating revenue, with all but one legacy MWC team bringing in a least double the revenue, if not triple in the case of UNLV. Our booster contributions are dead least by a long shot (Wyoming raises four times as much). Our school fees contributions lag behind only NDSU. We are now *way* poorer than the rest of the schools in our league. That won’t change by getting a better tv deal because all the other schools will be making at least at much (except for NDSU, which doesn’t get media money). So we are likely going to be in a Rutgers-like situation where we are the poorest team in a richer league.
All this means that, unless we can get our hands on A LOT more money, we are going to be structurally limited in who we can hire as coaches and buy as players. The bottom line is we survived, which is great, but we are probably looking at a walking dead, Rutgers-type situation for the foreseeable future.
UNLESS you hire a magnificent coach, who can win with zero resources. Hard to do, but possible.
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
We’re not dropping down to FCS as long as FBS football exists. Just ain’t happening. The only team that’s done that in recent history was Idaho. And that was only because the Sun Belt kicked them out and they had nowhere else to go.
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-25-2026 07:01 PM)holybovine Wrote: (10-25-2026 08:50 AM)Rawdog10 Wrote: Several things can be true at the same time. The MAC as we knew it is dead in the water. It will fall apart in the next two years (maybe by the end of this season). So getting out of it before the music stopped probably saved our program. It was 100% the right move, and you will soon see why when half the teams leave (while paying exit fees to the MAC and entry fees to other conferences), and it is backfilled with FCS teams. It will be a very bad place to end up, if it exists at all. That’s the good news.
The bad news is that, financially, we can’t compete in our new conference. Take a look at the numbers for yourself: https://nil-ncaa.com/mw/
We are second to last in conference for operating revenue, with all but one legacy MWC team bringing in a least double the revenue, if not triple in the case of UNLV. Our booster contributions are dead least by a long shot (Wyoming raises four times as much). Our school fees contributions lag behind only NDSU. We are now *way* poorer than the rest of the schools in our league. That won’t change by getting a better tv deal because all the other schools will be making at least at much (except for NDSU, which doesn’t get media money). So we are likely going to be in a Rutgers-like situation where we are the poorest team in a richer league.
All this means that, unless we can get our hands on A LOT more money, we are going to be structurally limited in who we can hire as coaches and buy as players. The bottom line is we survived, which is great, but we are probably looking at a walking dead, Rutgers-type situation for the foreseeable future.
UNLESS you hire a magnificent coach, who can win with zero resources. Hard to do, but possible.
Nick Rolovich
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
We do. Unfortunately, we joined with zero momentum and the program trending down with a dead coach walking. The complete opposite of our basketball program.
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
We were going to suck this year either way. I'd rather suck in the MWC than in the MAC on Tuesday nights vs Akron on ESPNU. Maybe we would've gotten a win over Akron or Kent. Yipee.
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-25-2026 04:43 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote: (10-25-2026 02:27 PM)Big_Man Wrote: Give NIU a coach I think they will compete in the MW. It just sucks that the first year in a real conference they have a Temu coach. Any coach from the past 25 years would be better than whatever is happening at the moment.
Of course we'll be competitive, and likely migrate towards the top of the MWC.
This thread was started by some stop-by-once-in-a-while-to-throw-shade-at-NIU hack. What a joke.
New leadership, refreshed roster, bowl game around the corner.
+1000
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
For those who say the MWC was a lateral move. From Tom Fornelli:
And the MAC is looking to get even worse with Miami one foot out the door.
(This post was last modified: 10-26-2026 02:42 PM by Max Power.)
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
interesting the sun belt grades out as high as it does
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-26-2026 07:51 PM)JeffNIU Wrote: interesting the sun belt grades out as high as it does
Yeah the MAC was usually better than the SBC 15 years ago
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
My favorite comment from Frazier today was the “we’re still transitioning to the Mountain West.” YOU HAD TWO YEARS TO BEGIN TRANSITIONING TO THE MOUNTAIN WEST!!! like I said in the other thread - zero momentum coming into the new conference. This guy is something else.
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-26-2026 08:05 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote: My favorite comment from Frazier today was the “we’re still transitioning to the Mountain West.” YOU HAD TWO YEARS TO BEGIN TRANSITIONING TO THE MOUNTAIN WEST!!! like I said in the other thread - zero momentum coming into the new conference. This guy is something else.
This guy refuses to bring any energy or innovation to his role. It’s like having Aunt Edna as our AD.
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-26-2026 02:41 PM)Max Power Wrote: For those who say the MWC was a lateral move. From Tom Fornelli:
And the MAC is looking to get even worse with Miami one foot out the door.
So what does this prove?
It's the haves sand have nots. No one cares about one ranking and one point here or there. It's P4 and G6. The details don't matter. FBS is about to split between P4 and G6.
MAC, Sun Belt, Mountain West, Pac 12, whatever. 98% of people that follow college football don't know the difference nor care who is the tallest midget.
Either way, NIU is on the wrong side of the ledger. How will you all feel when the P4 breaks away from the G6?
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-26-2026 08:36 PM)mattresspolice Wrote: (10-26-2026 02:41 PM)Max Power Wrote: For those who say the MWC was a lateral move. From Tom Fornelli:
And the MAC is looking to get even worse with Miami one foot out the door.
So what does this prove?
It's the haves sand have nots. No one cares about one ranking and one point here or there. It's P4 and G6. The details don't matter. FBS is about to split between P4 and G6.
MAC, Sun Belt, Mountain West, Pac 12, whatever. 98% of people that follow college football don't know the difference nor care who is the tallest midget.
Either way, NIU is on the wrong side of the ledger. How will you all feel when the P4 breaks away from the G6?
Why would they break away? Makes no sense.
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-26-2026 08:36 PM)mattresspolice Wrote: (10-26-2026 02:41 PM)Max Power Wrote: For those who say the MWC was a lateral move. From Tom Fornelli:
And the MAC is looking to get even worse with Miami one foot out the door.
So what does this prove?
It's the haves sand have nots. No one cares about one ranking and one point here or there. It's P4 and G6. The details don't matter. FBS is about to split between P4 and G6.
MAC, Sun Belt, Mountain West, Pac 12, whatever. 98% of people that follow college football don't know the difference nor care who is the tallest midget.
Either way, NIU is on the wrong side of the ledger. How will you all feel when the P4 breaks away from the G6?
All of this is the hard truth. If FBS werent already difficult enough, the power tilts more towards p4 every year.
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RE: This team never belonged in the Mountain West.
(10-26-2026 08:33 PM)HuskieBowWow Wrote: (10-26-2026 08:05 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote: My favorite comment from Frazier today was the “we’re still transitioning to the Mountain West.” YOU HAD TWO YEARS TO BEGIN TRANSITIONING TO THE MOUNTAIN WEST!!! like I said in the other thread - zero momentum coming into the new conference. This guy is something else.
This guy refuses to bring any energy or innovation to his role. It’s like having Aunt Edna as our AD.
He's just going through the motions, zero attempt from Frazier to build something next level in Dekalb. Has to go ASAP.
Imagine a more effective AD, with a new promising new football coach. We have a rich FBS history and we're planted in the #3 DMA, someone should be building a top notch G6 program with a killer 30k seat stadium + suites. Not all that crazy of a goal, and then we're positioned well for whatever comes down the pipe......
(This post was last modified: 10-27-2026 08:50 AM by NIUfilmmaker.)
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