(10-09-2026 04:21 AM)green Wrote:  

https://x.com/burgessev/status/2108248449393037787

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As I explained on the main board, our four heroes/villains/schools want to sunset the PE prevention clause in the PCSA. This keeps PE out of CFB and prevents a P1. I am really surprised nobody is talking about this as it’s the most destructive element and the “end game” of consolidation.

It appears our four (backed by PE) feel strong enough to take on the B1G and SEC and pluck whichever schools they like to form a P1.

(10-09-2026 04:21 AM)green Wrote:  

https://x.com/burgessev/status/2108248449393037787

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The victims are now being made out to be those that are to blame?

(10-09-2026 07:26 AM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 04:21 AM)green Wrote:  

https://x.com/burgessev/status/2108248449393037787

SHOWDOWN AT THE OK CORRAL

As I explained on the main board, our four heroes/villains/schools want to sunset the PE prevention clause in the PCSA. This keeps PE out of CFB and prevents a P1. I am really surprised nobody is talking about this as it’s the most destructive element and the “end game” of consolidation.

It appears our four (backed by PE) feel strong enough to take on the B1G and SEC and pluck whichever schools they like to form a P1.

I suspect something else at play ...

COALITION OF THE WILLING

(10-09-2026 07:01 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 06:09 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-08-2026 09:11 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-08-2026 02:12 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(10-08-2026 11:27 AM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  Um, he somehow landed expansion candidates during the lawsuit era that ended up boosting revenue by over $100m, no?

One of which already has a CFP at-large bid which is HUGE for any CFP negotiations.

Until 2033. What happens then? We are facing a drop in payouts to cover their full membership. What is our esteemed commish plan to avoid this? Shouldn’t we be striving to be better than #3? It’s the commish job to figure this out. The ACC used to be among the financial leaders in the 80’s, 90’s & early 2000’s.

Revenue is going up, haven’t you heard? Besides, if you believe all the yokels on this site the ACC will be gifted a half billion in exit fees around then.

Revenue isn't going up fast enough to stay competitive......Would I be accurate in saying you don't think the GOR penalty payments will happen, or at least not nearly to the 75 mil each would owe? Which I'm skeptical of myself...which only sets the rest of us back further when that time comes...

I've offered up ideas like the 10th game idea to start ASAP and take that to ESPN for a new contract. Or the neutral site series for all ACC schools with Big 12 or other P4s to generate dollars that way....We're not hearing any of this kind of new paths of making money to stay in touch with P2...Thats not even out of the box thinking either...

Again, we can have a publicly diplomatic commish and doesn't just say off the wall dumb stuff like Sankey can tend to do, but with that speaking with actions (more of them) needs to happen....Sankey, with his bluster and loud voice, also pushes himself around on behalf of the SEC and so his schools are happy with him.....

The more conference games that are played, the less the need for the ACC or Big 12 to generate as much revenue as the SEC or Big 10, because those schools can stay competitive with each other as long as their revenues are similar within each conference.

After what went on to get a settlement and derive the fixed prices to leave, you can bet your bottom dollar that those numbers will be upheld in any court and every penny will be paid, should a school chose to leave the ACC.

If the ACC is only trying to compete with Big 12 in revenue...and if there isn't a cap on spending for P2...then you're assuming there is a M2 between two conferences that can't compete with the P2...don't want to fall backwards to G6....so do we just play exhibition seasons with Big 12?

We'll see if the GOR Penalty Fees (Exit Fees) hold up or not.....The more stable number I would assume to go with is...if there is a group that chooses to leave ACC for Big 12, and need to know the exit fee number they're going to need to pay, it will be whatever is settled upon with those leaving for SEC/Big 10. So if Mag 4 take 75 mil to court and get it dropped to 50 mil, then thats what ACC to Big 12s would pay.

(10-09-2026 04:21 AM)green Wrote:  

https://x.com/burgessev/status/2108248449393037787

SHOWDOWN AT THE OK CORRAL

With the cap already at 20, that means there's enough room NOW for...
...all 4 ACC schools to go to the SEC
...or 2 to the Big Ten and 2 to the SEC

So, ask yourself, WHY do they want that number expanded any more?

I suspect there's another, hidden villain here, with another hidden agenda.

(10-09-2026 07:26 AM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 04:21 AM)green Wrote:  

https://x.com/burgessev/status/2108248449393037787

SHOWDOWN AT THE OK CORRAL

As I explained on the main board, our four heroes/villains/schools want to sunset the PE prevention clause in the PCSA. This keeps PE out of CFB and prevents a P1. I am really surprised nobody is talking about this as it’s the most destructive element and the “end game” of consolidation.

It appears our four (backed by PE) feel strong enough to take on the B1G and SEC and pluck whichever schools they like to form a P1.

Is this tongue and cheek? That the Mag 4 would be only ones to take on SEC/Big 10 for keeping PE out and prevent a P1.....That would be one of the last unanimous holding hands moment for this conference is to block a P1....

(10-09-2026 08:25 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 07:26 AM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 04:21 AM)green Wrote:  

https://x.com/burgessev/status/2108248449393037787

SHOWDOWN AT THE OK CORRAL

As I explained on the main board, our four heroes/villains/schools want to sunset the PE prevention clause in the PCSA. This keeps PE out of CFB and prevents a P1. I am really surprised nobody is talking about this as it’s the most destructive element and the “end game” of consolidation.

It appears our four (backed by PE) feel strong enough to take on the B1G and SEC and pluck whichever schools they like to form a P1.

Is this tongue and cheek? That the Mag 4 would be only ones to take on SEC/Big 10 for keeping PE out and prevent a P1.....That would be one of the last unanimous holding hands moment for this conference is to block a P1....

I'm starting to be concerned that Dr Dawgma III might have a drinking problem...

(10-09-2026 08:38 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 08:25 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 07:26 AM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 04:21 AM)green Wrote:  

https://x.com/burgessev/status/2108248449393037787

SHOWDOWN AT THE OK CORRAL

As I explained on the main board, our four heroes/villains/schools want to sunset the PE prevention clause in the PCSA. This keeps PE out of CFB and prevents a P1. I am really surprised nobody is talking about this as it’s the most destructive element and the “end game” of consolidation.

It appears our four (backed by PE) feel strong enough to take on the B1G and SEC and pluck whichever schools they like to form a P1.

Is this tongue and cheek? That the Mag 4 would be only ones to take on SEC/Big 10 for keeping PE out and prevent a P1.....That would be one of the last unanimous holding hands moment for this conference is to block a P1....

I'm starting to be concerned that Dr Dawgma III might have a drinking problem...

Did you read it? That is 100% a viable outcome if PE is not outlawed at the conference level.

Seems like you all are drinking conference kumbaya kool-aid.


The question you should be asking is who is this PE that they obviously have in their corner?

The PE sunset proposal could just be there to help schools/conferences finance a move.

Say the cap goes up to 22 as requested, and the P2 decide they want to add schools in a hurry. They’re launching a new postseason structure. In a situation like that, they are not the only conferences who want to get their membership squared away so they can set up play-in games and play ball.

A cap of 22 means as many as 10 schools could moving. PE options could help pay exit fees and other costs of movement in a hurry, presumably because the corporate entity sees value in owning shares of the resulting pie.

(10-09-2026 09:32 AM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 08:38 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 08:25 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 07:26 AM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 04:21 AM)green Wrote:  

https://x.com/burgessev/status/2108248449393037787

SHOWDOWN AT THE OK CORRAL

As I explained on the main board, our four heroes/villains/schools want to sunset the PE prevention clause in the PCSA. This keeps PE out of CFB and prevents a P1. I am really surprised nobody is talking about this as it’s the most destructive element and the “end game” of consolidation.

It appears our four (backed by PE) feel strong enough to take on the B1G and SEC and pluck whichever schools they like to form a P1.

Is this tongue and cheek? That the Mag 4 would be only ones to take on SEC/Big 10 for keeping PE out and prevent a P1.....That would be one of the last unanimous holding hands moment for this conference is to block a P1....

I'm starting to be concerned that Dr Dawgma III might have a drinking problem...

Did you read it? That is 100% a viable outcome if PE is not outlawed at the conference level.

Seems like you all are drinking conference kumbaya kool-aid.


The question you should be asking is who is this PE that they obviously have in their corner?

Perhaps I didn't follow your statement (maybe still don't?). First, who is the "they"? I thought it refered to the 4 ACC schools. Second, are you saying no size limit, just outlaw private equity?

(10-09-2026 09:48 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  The PE sunset proposal could just be there to help schools/conferences finance a move.

Say the cap goes up to 22 as requested, and the P2 decide they want to add schools in a hurry. They’re launching a new postseason structure. In a situation like that, they are not the only conferences who want to get their membership squared away so they can set up play-in games and play ball.

A cap of 22 means as many as 10 schools could moving. PE options could help pay exit fees and other costs of movement in a hurry, presumably because the corporate entity sees value in owning shares of the resulting pie.

No one has addressed my question yet...

With the cap already at 20, that means there's enough room NOW for...
...all 4 ACC schools to go to the SEC
...or 2 to the Big Ten and 2 to the SEC

So, ask yourself, WHY do they want a higher cap when 20 is more than enough for 4 schools to get out of the ACC?

4 to SEC
2 to Big 10
6 to Big 12

ACC dissolves by those 12 leaving at same time....GOR exit fee goes away

But obviously you would see a 12 team unified front and not 4 for that.

Was that Kansas fan's post about a 10 team 3rd conference backed by a PE just their idea or was that being reported by a media outlet somewhere as an idea being tossed around there by the power brokers in all of this?

(10-09-2026 01:59 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  4 to SEC
2 to Big 10
6 to Big 12

ACC dissolves by those 12 leaving at same time....GOR exit fee goes away

But obviously you would see a 12 team unified front and not 4 for that.

The 6 going to the Big 12 (assuming that would ever happen) would be fools to go along with that scheme. Why not collect their share of the exit fees from the first 6 teams, THEN go? (Of course, that doesn't match the Big XII fanboy fever dream).

(10-09-2026 02:39 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 01:59 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  4 to SEC
2 to Big 10
6 to Big 12

ACC dissolves by those 12 leaving at same time....GOR exit fee goes away

But obviously you would see a 12 team unified front and not 4 for that.

The 6 going to the Big 12 (assuming that would ever happen) would be fools to go along with that scheme. Why not collect their share of the exit fees from the first 6 teams, THEN go? (Of course, that doesn't match the Big XII fanboy fever dream).

Whatever the first group of 6 pay to leave ACC is what the next 6 of us would pay...its a wash, dissolvement moves all of this along quicker....Dissolvement also opens up the rights of the ACCN as it stands for ESPN could take it over to the Big 12, with the earlier new contract deal arriving over there vs waiting for ACC. ESPN needs either dissolvement or GOR expired to fully own the channel.

Going to 22 cap could force ESPN's hand to quit being buttholes and pay us what we are worth or we go nuclear on their precious ACCN.

(10-09-2026 01:28 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 09:32 AM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 08:38 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 08:25 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 07:26 AM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  As I explained on the main board, our four heroes/villains/schools want to sunset the PE prevention clause in the PCSA. This keeps PE out of CFB and prevents a P1. I am really surprised nobody is talking about this as it’s the most destructive element and the “end game” of consolidation.

It appears our four (backed by PE) feel strong enough to take on the B1G and SEC and pluck whichever schools they like to form a P1.

Is this tongue and cheek? That the Mag 4 would be only ones to take on SEC/Big 10 for keeping PE out and prevent a P1.....That would be one of the last unanimous holding hands moment for this conference is to block a P1....

I'm starting to be concerned that Dr Dawgma III might have a drinking problem...

Did you read it? That is 100% a viable outcome if PE is not outlawed at the conference level.

Seems like you all are drinking conference kumbaya kool-aid.


The question you should be asking is who is this PE that they obviously have in their corner?

Perhaps I didn't follow your statement (maybe still don't?). First, who is the "they"? I thought it refered to the 4 ACC schools. Second, are you saying no size limit, just outlaw private equity?

Don’t listen to the Nole, he’s lost here.

PE is not affected at the individual school level.

The PCSA blocks PE from acquiring schools’ media rights and assembling a conference. The four ACC schools want this dropped. Why? So they can assemble a PE-backed conference.

“any entity to merge with, acquire, or consolidate the assets or media rights of a covered institution, or multiple covered institutions, for the purpose of creating a new conference or intercollegiate athletic association.”

(10-09-2026 01:59 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  4 to SEC
2 to Big 10
6 to Big 12

ACC dissolves by those 12 leaving at same time....GOR exit fee goes away

But obviously you would see a 12 team unified front and not 4 for that.

ESPN owns 100% of the ACC not the Monster XII

Please stop with the Monster XII fantasies

(10-09-2026 03:15 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 01:59 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  4 to SEC
2 to Big 10
6 to Big 12

ACC dissolves by those 12 leaving at same time....GOR exit fee goes away

But obviously you would see a 12 team unified front and not 4 for that.

ESPN owns 100% of the ACC not the Monster XII

Please stop with the Monster XII fantasies

I've said time and time again work to strengthen the ACC so schools, including yours stay around.....Not sure I need to be hear being told to stop with future planning, when everyone else is doing it...

If UNC is sitting in the SEC, paid their 75 mil you are going to be happy...if enough leave first round....a group of us won't be happy with just your 75 mil....As said yesterday, not much confidence in JP saving the day either before your wave leaves or before rest of us have to make decisions....

That leaves us with Monster having a tv deal come up much sooner than ACCs, which will be pennies on the dollar in 2036...
Yes, ESPN has that ownership as i stated earlier...if ACC dissolves or GOR expires, ESPN can do what it would like with the ACCN...

I'm not sure why its so hard to grasp that at that point in time Big 12 Monster is a much better home to live in

(10-09-2026 03:22 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 03:15 PM)Dr Dawgma III Wrote:  

(10-09-2026 01:59 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  4 to SEC
2 to Big 10
6 to Big 12

ACC dissolves by those 12 leaving at same time....GOR exit fee goes away

But obviously you would see a 12 team unified front and not 4 for that.

ESPN owns 100% of the ACC not the Monster XII

Please stop with the Monster XII fantasies

I've said time and time again work to strengthen the ACC so schools, including yours stay around.....Not sure I need to be hear being told to stop with future planning, when everyone else is doing it...

If UNC is sitting in the SEC, paid their 75 mil you are going to be happy...if enough leave first round....a group of us won't be happy with just your 75 mil....As said yesterday, not much confidence in JP saving the day either before your wave leaves or before rest of us have to make decisions....

That leaves us with Monster having a tv deal come up much sooner than ACCs, which will be pennies on the dollar in 2036...
Yes, ESPN has that ownership as i stated earlier...if ACC dissolves or GOR expires, ESPN can do what it would like with the ACCN...

I'm not sure why its so hard to grasp that at that point in time Big 12 Monster is a much better home to live in

Because your construction is based on a fantasy where 12 schools somehow leave at the same time despite the way media deals, conferences, and exit protocol works. Reality doesn’t work that way. That’s an impossible wishcasting scenario. Sorry for throwing cold water on it. Doesn’t matter the school I root for.