(09-12-2026 10:30 AM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  For some, owning a car is cheaper than taking public transit.

That is if you buy a used car, and negotiate a reasonable payment.

As pointed out earlier a monthly bus pass in Nashville is $65.

A Chicago transit pass is $75 a month.

A monthly mata pass in NY is 35 a week, or effective $150 a month.

If you lived someplace like NYC or Chicago that has effective public transportation there is no scenario where a car is cheaper than public transit. Just the insurance is more than $75 a month for liability on a car in Chicago even if you got it for free.

I'd rather live out in rural Kentucky than live in any of those places.

(09-12-2026 10:43 AM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  I'd rather live out in rural Kentucky than live in any of those places.

Then why are you rambling on about the expense of public transportation when you live someplace with no public transportation, and have probably never lived in a city with viable public transportation.

Seems like you shouldn’t be so worried about the cost, as in rural Kentucky you simply won’t have public transportation as an option. It depends on population density.

I feel like this is a Billy Madison situation where we are all now dumber for having listened to your ramblings on public transportation.

Well what I said mattered enough for you to respond.

If anything, you owned yourself.

I'm allowed to have opinion.

I have traveled a bit in my life, contrary to your preconceived beliefs about me.

If you don't like what I have to say, then put me on ignore.

I already have you on ignore.

I really don't care if you think what I say is stupid or not.

I'm not here to kiss your *** or anyone else's.

Meanwhile, back to the topic.

Gas is up again slightly today. Now at $4.32.

Diesel still hitting highest ever prices...now at $6.23.
https://gasprices.aaa.com/

And for those still thinking Biden left trump $5 gas, gas peaked at $5.02 on 6/14/22 and was down to $3.70 by 9/14/22.

(09-14-2026 07:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Meanwhile, back to the topic.

Gas is up again slightly today. Now at $4.32.

Diesel still hitting highest ever prices...now at $6.23.
https://gasprices.aaa.com/

And for those still thinking Biden left trump $5 gas, gas peaked at $5.02 on 6/14/22 and was down to $3.70 by 9/14/22.

$3.76 locally. Must be the taxes raising the price in other places.

But Biden wanted 50% of the country to be driving an EV in 4 years.
Biden quote regarding "fossil" fuels: "We're gonna phase it out." If Harris was POTUS right now, Iran would have a Nuke and mostly likely already used it and who knows what oil and fuel prices would be. We KNOW why it is high now. When that is settled those prices will go down considerably. Democrats will do absolutely nothing to lower the costs of anything if/when they get control. Their whole plan is to blow the system up so they can control EVERYTHING. "You will take the bus and love it".

(09-12-2026 10:30 AM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  For some, owning a car is cheaper than taking public transit.

That is if you buy a used car, and negotiate a reasonable payment.

There are PLENTY of reasons to not rely on public transportation but cost isn't one of them.

(09-14-2026 08:19 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  But Biden wanted 50% of the country to be driving an EV in 4 years.
Biden quote regarding "fossil" fuels: "We're gonna phase it out." If Harris was POTUS right now, Iran would have a Nuke and mostly likely already used it and who knows what oil and fuel prices would be. We KNOW why it is high now. When that is settled those prices will go down considerably. Democrats will do absolutely nothing to lower the costs of anything if/when they get control. Their whole plan is to blow the system up so they can control EVERYTHING. "You will take the bus and love it".

It doesn't matter what Biden said or if he wanted to blot out the ******* moon. That wasn't going to make the O&G industry do a ******* thing unless there was some congressionally passed legislation.

That's not how any of this works.

And you're being ridiculous in claiming or thinking that Iran was going to nuke anybody no matter who the ******* president is now.

The "Doomsday Clock" went from 89 seconds to midnight to 85 seconds to midnight after trump's folly started, not before. We're more closer to a nuclear war now than at any point in our history. Thanks don!

(09-14-2026 07:42 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 07:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Meanwhile, back to the topic.

Gas is up again slightly today. Now at $4.32.

Diesel still hitting highest ever prices...now at $6.23.
https://gasprices.aaa.com/

And for those still thinking Biden left trump $5 gas, gas peaked at $5.02 on 6/14/22 and was down to $3.70 by 9/14/22.

$3.76 locally. Must be the taxes raising the price in other places.

Exactly how often do you think gas taxes rise?

And the only state with an average below $3.76 is Indiana. And that's only because they paused their state gas taxes. They paused it for 30-days in April. Then in May. Then in June, July, and August, then again in September through October 6th. Gee, if this is all going so greatly by trump, why the need to keep extending it?

(09-14-2026 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 08:19 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  But Biden wanted 50% of the country to be driving an EV in 4 years.
Biden quote regarding "fossil" fuels: "We're gonna phase it out." If Harris was POTUS right now, Iran would have a Nuke and mostly likely already used it and who knows what oil and fuel prices would be. We KNOW why it is high now. When that is settled those prices will go down considerably. Democrats will do absolutely nothing to lower the costs of anything if/when they get control. Their whole plan is to blow the system up so they can control EVERYTHING. "You will take the bus and love it".

It doesn't matter what Biden said of if he wanted to blot out the ******* moon. That wasn't going to make the O&G industry do a ******* thing unless there was some congressionally passed legislation.

That's not how any of this works.

And you're being ridiculous in claiming or thinking that Iran was going to nuke anybody no matter who the ******* president is now.

The "Doomsday Clock" went from 89 seconds to midnight to 85 seconds to midnight after trump's folly started, not before. We're more closer to a nuclear war now than at any point in our history. Thanks don!

So, we are now closer to nuclear war than we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis? Really?

(09-14-2026 09:53 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 08:19 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  But Biden wanted 50% of the country to be driving an EV in 4 years.
Biden quote regarding "fossil" fuels: "We're gonna phase it out." If Harris was POTUS right now, Iran would have a Nuke and mostly likely already used it and who knows what oil and fuel prices would be. We KNOW why it is high now. When that is settled those prices will go down considerably. Democrats will do absolutely nothing to lower the costs of anything if/when they get control. Their whole plan is to blow the system up so they can control EVERYTHING. "You will take the bus and love it".

It doesn't matter what Biden said of if he wanted to blot out the ******* moon. That wasn't going to make the O&G industry do a ******* thing unless there was some congressionally passed legislation.

That's not how any of this works.

And you're being ridiculous in claiming or thinking that Iran was going to nuke anybody no matter who the ******* president is now.

The "Doomsday Clock" went from 89 seconds to midnight to 85 seconds to midnight after trump's folly started, not before. We're more closer to a nuclear war now than at any point in our history. Thanks don!

So, we are now closer to nuclear war than we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis? Really?

If you're talking about the clock, which I am, it did not move then. That only lasted a few weeks. Not long enough to really move the needle. Technically we likely were, but it was not really known at the time...we didn't find out until quite a bit later when more information was known.

But I was not entirely clear about the doomsday clock...it's not just for nuclear war threats. I should have been more clear in my statement. Apologies.

(09-14-2026 09:53 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 08:19 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  But Biden wanted 50% of the country to be driving an EV in 4 years.
Biden quote regarding "fossil" fuels: "We're gonna phase it out." If Harris was POTUS right now, Iran would have a Nuke and mostly likely already used it and who knows what oil and fuel prices would be. We KNOW why it is high now. When that is settled those prices will go down considerably. Democrats will do absolutely nothing to lower the costs of anything if/when they get control. Their whole plan is to blow the system up so they can control EVERYTHING. "You will take the bus and love it".

It doesn't matter what Biden said of if he wanted to blot out the ******* moon. That wasn't going to make the O&G industry do a ******* thing unless there was some congressionally passed legislation.

That's not how any of this works.

And you're being ridiculous in claiming or thinking that Iran was going to nuke anybody no matter who the ******* president is now.

The "Doomsday Clock" went from 89 seconds to midnight to 85 seconds to midnight after trump's folly started, not before. We're more closer to a nuclear war now than at any point in our history. Thanks don!

So, we are now closer to nuclear war than we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis? Really?

Someone isn't very informed on history. If Iran had a Nuke they would have used it. What exactly are they waiting for? "Doomsday Clock". Who is in charge of that? We know Iran wants Democrats in control in the US. ALL of our enemies want Democrats in charge because they can do what they want, and we bow down to them, and in some cases we fund them.

(09-14-2026 10:10 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  If Iran had a Nuke they would have used it.

Sure, Jan.

But it would be moot under a hypothetical Harris administration since trump set them back decades when he completely obliterated their capabilities back in 2025, AMIRITE?

(09-14-2026 09:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 09:53 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 08:19 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  But Biden wanted 50% of the country to be driving an EV in 4 years.
Biden quote regarding "fossil" fuels: "We're gonna phase it out." If Harris was POTUS right now, Iran would have a Nuke and mostly likely already used it and who knows what oil and fuel prices would be. We KNOW why it is high now. When that is settled those prices will go down considerably. Democrats will do absolutely nothing to lower the costs of anything if/when they get control. Their whole plan is to blow the system up so they can control EVERYTHING. "You will take the bus and love it".

It doesn't matter what Biden said of if he wanted to blot out the ******* moon. That wasn't going to make the O&G industry do a ******* thing unless there was some congressionally passed legislation.

That's not how any of this works.

And you're being ridiculous in claiming or thinking that Iran was going to nuke anybody no matter who the ******* president is now.

The "Doomsday Clock" went from 89 seconds to midnight to 85 seconds to midnight after trump's folly started, not before. We're more closer to a nuclear war now than at any point in our history. Thanks don!

So, we are now closer to nuclear war than we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis? Really?

If you're talking about the clock, which I am, it did not move then. That only lasted a few weeks. Not long enough to really move the needle. Technically we likely were, but it was not really known at the time...we didn't find out until quite a bit later when more information was known.

But I was not entirely clear about the doomsday clock...it's not just for nuclear war threats. I should have been more clear in my statement. Apologies.

The fact the so called "doomsday clock" didn't move during the Cuban Missile Crisis tells me all I need to know about that "clock." Seems to be more of a fear mongering device than anything else. Thanks for the clarification though.

(09-14-2026 10:23 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 09:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 09:53 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-14-2026 08:19 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  But Biden wanted 50% of the country to be driving an EV in 4 years.
Biden quote regarding "fossil" fuels: "We're gonna phase it out." If Harris was POTUS right now, Iran would have a Nuke and mostly likely already used it and who knows what oil and fuel prices would be. We KNOW why it is high now. When that is settled those prices will go down considerably. Democrats will do absolutely nothing to lower the costs of anything if/when they get control. Their whole plan is to blow the system up so they can control EVERYTHING. "You will take the bus and love it".

It doesn't matter what Biden said of if he wanted to blot out the ******* moon. That wasn't going to make the O&G industry do a ******* thing unless there was some congressionally passed legislation.

That's not how any of this works.

And you're being ridiculous in claiming or thinking that Iran was going to nuke anybody no matter who the ******* president is now.

The "Doomsday Clock" went from 89 seconds to midnight to 85 seconds to midnight after trump's folly started, not before. We're more closer to a nuclear war now than at any point in our history. Thanks don!

So, we are now closer to nuclear war than we were during the Cuban Missile Crisis? Really?

If you're talking about the clock, which I am, it did not move then. That only lasted a few weeks. Not long enough to really move the needle. Technically we likely were, but it was not really known at the time...we didn't find out until quite a bit later when more information was known.

But I was not entirely clear about the doomsday clock...it's not just for nuclear war threats. I should have been more clear in my statement. Apologies.

The fact the so called "doomsday clock" didn't move during the Cuban Missile Crisis tells me all I need to know about that "clock." Seems to be more of a fear mongering device than anything else. Thanks for the clarification though.

Exactly.

That's all these so called "critical thinkers" have anymore.

Nothing but fear mongering.

(09-14-2026 10:28 AM)BirdHawkEagle Wrote:  That's all these so called "critical thinkers" have anymore.

Nothing but fear mongering.

Geez, you're oblivious to reality. Not only does trump fear monger continually, your pals do too.

(09-14-2026 10:10 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  If Iran had a Nuke they would have used it.

Why would Iran be making them if they weren't going to use it? Why did Obama have an Iran Nuclear Deal? So Obama was "fear mongering"? You are talking in circles.