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(04-23-2026 08:09 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(04-22-2026 05:25 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Democrats have tried to get rid of gerrymandering but they can't without Republican support, which they don't get. Obama is like the rest of us, doesn't want gerrymandering but you can't unilaterally disarm, especially when dealing with a psychopath like Trump.

Yes, that's an important point to make here. "For the People Act" in 2021 would've banned partisan gerrymandering and established those independent commissions. Every Republican senator voted against it.

I do see a MAGA-appointed judge in Virginia is blocking the redistricting.

Cough, Cough...love how you both ignore the facts. Not all Republicans:

Freshman Congressman Pushes for Term Limits, Balanced Budget, No Budget-No Pay & Gerrymandering Reform
January 10, 2017
https://fitzpatrick.house.gov/2017/1/fit...islation-0

So since you are so concerned about the partisan gerrymandering of maps, I can only assume you also want to see IL, Maryland, Nevada, New York, Oregon, New Mexico (all Democratic ran states) stop and correct the partisan gerrymandering of maps?

The reality is, until the US Supreme Court revisits the Rucho decision and creates some judicially manageable standards for when partisan gerrymandering violates the Constitution, per Colin, we are just going to see more states join in. Up next, FL.

As I said previously, I don't like any of it, but I can't blame Republicans for also doing this. What is that saying, "what is good for the goose is good for the gander".

(04-23-2026 09:06 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:  Cough, Cough...love how you both ignore the facts. Not all Republicans:

I erred in saying "senators." It was blocked in the GOP-controlled Senate.

It was the House where every Republican voted against it.

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202162

But while we pick nits on who voted what, it's clearly been the Dems over the past decade who have taken the charge in reforming it.

Like the 'Presidential Pardon', gerrymandering has gotten abused and needs serious reform. I agree on that end. But after Texas rammed through the midcycle gerrymander last year, knowing the midterms may offer up a blue wave, I'm glad CA and VA responded. Although like I said, MAGA VA judge is blocking it anyhow so it all may be moot.

(04-23-2026 09:06 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:  

(04-23-2026 08:09 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(04-22-2026 05:25 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Democrats have tried to get rid of gerrymandering but they can't without Republican support, which they don't get. Obama is like the rest of us, doesn't want gerrymandering but you can't unilaterally disarm, especially when dealing with a psychopath like Trump.

Yes, that's an important point to make here. "For the People Act" in 2021 would've banned partisan gerrymandering and established those independent commissions. Every Republican senator voted against it.

I do see a MAGA-appointed judge in Virginia is blocking the redistricting.

Cough, Cough...love how you both ignore the facts. Not all Republicans:

Freshman Congressman Pushes for Term Limits, Balanced Budget, No Budget-No Pay & Gerrymandering Reform
January 10, 2017
https://fitzpatrick.house.gov/2017/1/fit...islation-0

So since you are so concerned about the partisan gerrymandering of maps, I can only assume you also want to see IL, Maryland, Nevada, New York, Oregon, New Mexico (all Democratic ran states) stop and correct the partisan gerrymandering of maps?

The reality is, until the US Supreme Court revisits the Rucho decision and creates some judicially manageable standards for when partisan gerrymandering violates the Constitution, per Colin, we are just going to see more states join in. Up next, FL.

As I said previously, I don't like any of it, but I can't blame Republicans for also doing this. What is that saying, "what is good for the goose is good for the gander".

I would be fine with all states having no gerrymandering. But we won't get there since neither the Republicans nor the right-wing Supreme Court want that.

amie Bonkiewicz
@JamieBonkiewicz

Seriously guys, whatever happened to:

• the DOGE checks
• tariff checks
• the Greenland hospital boat
• 10% APR on credit cards
• my meds being 1500% cheaper
• $2 gas
• the Epstein files
• reopening the Strait of Hormuz that was already open
• cheaper groceries
• ending wars in 24 hours
• the “privately funded” ballroom

Any updates?

Trump is and always has been about himself and to lesser extent his family (not including his wives obviously).

He said it himself before leaving for China:

"I don't think about American's finances at all."

(05-15-2026 10:11 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  amie Bonkiewicz
@JamieBonkiewicz

Seriously guys, whatever happened to:

• the DOGE checks
• tariff checks
• the Greenland hospital boat
• 10% APR on credit cards
• my meds being 1500% cheaper
• $2 gas
• the Epstein files
• reopening the Strait of Hormuz that was already open
• cheaper groceries
• ending wars in 24 hours
• the “privately funded” ballroom

Any updates?

Only updates are him building an Arch to honor himself in front of Arlington Cematary and re-doing the Reflecting Pool in front of Lincoln Memorial where he says he had bigger crowds than MLK's 1963 speech.

The man's ego knows no bounds.

And the former Republican Party has no guts (balls) to stand up to him.

Thomas Massie lost his primary. One of the very few Republicans who had the guts to oppose Trump on anything is gone. The Authoritarian regime just keeps gaining more unchecked power.

NBC News
@NBCNews

BREAKING: Rep. Thomas Massie loses his GOP primary in Kentucky to Ed Gallrein, NBC News projects, in another victory for President Trump as he targets dissenters in his party.

Trump voters say "No New Wars" and curbing gubment spending were drivers to support him.

Yesterday, they rejected a man who criticized Trump starting wars and spending like a drunken sailor.

MAGA believes in nothing, no principles. It's just whatever Trump says.

Dear Broncos, and others,
Didn't Michigan go through a non-partisan redistricting a few years ago? I remember going to meetings to discuss various proposals. Why can't this be accomplished in other States?

(05-20-2026 10:15 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Broncos, and others,
Didn't Michigan go through a non-partisan redistricting a few years ago? I remember going to meetings to discuss various proposals. Why can't this be accomplished in other States?

Yes, it was put on the ballot in 2018.

It transferred the power of redistricting away from the Legislature and to an independent redistricting commission made up of 4 Democrats, 4 Republicans, & 5 independents.

It was passed 61% to 38%.

Nothing in this country gets supported that much.

@JaredRyanSears

Trump said he was going to prosecute all kinds of Democrats because there was so much corruption. How has that gone?

Joe Biden autopen - dropped
Letitia James - tossed out
Jerome Powell - dropped
Mark Kelly - Grand Jury failed to indict
James Comey case #1 - tossed out
Lisa Cook - still part of the Fed
Adam Schiff - no charges

Trump said they would expose how the election was stolen from him in 2020. Numerous court cases have been dismissed, and Trump has been unable to provide any evidence proving his claims, even with a weaponized DOJ. This is because Trump lost a free and fair election.

None of that should be surprising because this is the same Trump who claimed:

-Other countries pay for tariffs, but the average US household spent $1,500 on the illegal tariffs last year.

-Tariffs would bring in so much revenue that we could get rid of the income tax and send everyone checks. We still have income tax, we didn't get checks, and the debt is rising faster than before.

-DOGE was going to save so much money that everyone would get DOGE checks. No one got DOGE checks, and DOGE cost more than the tiny amount it cut.

-That he wouldn't start any wars, only to then start a war in Iran.

-Said Iran was a short excursion and that the war was won in early March, but we're still at war at the end of May.

-He would bring prices down. Instead, he skyrocketed gas prices and shot inflation to its highest level in 3 years, and it is still rising and now outpacing wage gains.

My question to Trump supporters is: why are you going to believe the next lie Trump tells you?

The MAGAs sure find the brightest and best.

@HQNewsNow

Ken Paxton has won the Republican nomination for US Senate in Texas and will face James Talarico in November.

Paxton was impeached by his own party for bribery and corruption, said the Uvalde school shooting was “God’s plan,” and offered a child rapist a 1-day jail sentence.

Voters in Texas are crazy.

(05-26-2026 08:58 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  The MAGAs sure find the brightest and best.

@HQNewsNow

Ken Paxton has won the Republican nomination for US Senate in Texas and will face James Talarico in November.

Paxton was impeached by his own party for bribery and corruption, said the Uvalde school shooting was “God’s plan,” and offered a child rapist a 1-day jail sentence.

He is also (according to his wife's divorce petition) a serial adulterer. But then in Trump-MAGAt world, that might be a point in his favor.

(05-27-2026 04:12 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  

(05-26-2026 08:58 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  The MAGAs sure find the brightest and best.

@HQNewsNow

Ken Paxton has won the Republican nomination for US Senate in Texas and will face James Talarico in November.

Paxton was impeached by his own party for bribery and corruption, said the Uvalde school shooting was “God’s plan,” and offered a child rapist a 1-day jail sentence.

He is also (according to his wife's divorce petition) a serial adulterer. But then in Trump-MAGAt world, that might be a point in his favor.

Remember when old school Republicans, who many went on to become MAGAs, called themselves the moral majority?

Rep. Sheri Biggs on South Carolina: "Right now, we have one congressman that's Democrat. I think a 7 and 0 map would definitely reflect our values. We should have only Americans voting in our elections."

That's a sitting Republican congresswoman saying out loud on Newsmax that the GOP does not consider Democrats or black people to be Americans and should therefore not be allowed to vote or have any representation in Congress.

(05-28-2026 08:25 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  Rep. Sheri Biggs on South Carolina: "Right now, we have one congressman that's Democrat. I think a 7 and 0 map would definitely reflect our values. We should have only Americans voting in our elections."

That's a sitting Republican congresswoman saying out loud on Newsmax that the GOP does not consider Democrats or black people to be Americans and should therefore not be allowed to vote or have any representation in Congress.

You need to talk with Tim Scott.

(05-28-2026 09:17 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(05-28-2026 08:25 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  Rep. Sheri Biggs on South Carolina: "Right now, we have one congressman that's Democrat. I think a 7 and 0 map would definitely reflect our values. We should have only Americans voting in our elections."

That's a sitting Republican congresswoman saying out loud on Newsmax that the GOP does not consider Democrats or black people to be Americans and should therefore not be allowed to vote or have any representation in Congress.

You need to talk with Tim Scott.

Oh, it's funny is it? You're going with the "I'm not racist, I have a black friend" bit? Hey everyone, racism is over because there's a black Republican congressman!

What does this sitting member of Congress mean when she says "We should have only Americans voting in our elections"?

(05-28-2026 09:40 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:  

(05-28-2026 09:17 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  [quote='ColinApocalypse' pid='20665359' dateline='1779974740']
Rep. Sheri Biggs on South Carolina: "Right now, we have one congressman that's Democrat. I think a 7 and 0 map would definitely reflect our values. We should have only Americans voting in our elections."

That's a sitting Republican congresswoman saying out loud on Newsmax that the GOP does not consider Democrats or black people to be Americans and should therefore not be allowed to vote or have any representation in Congress.

You need to talk with Tim Scott.

Oh, it's funny is it? You're going with the "I'm not racist, I have a black friend" bit? Hey everyone, racism is over because there's a black Republican congressman!

What does this sitting member of Congress mean when she says "We should have only Americans voting in our elections"?
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She means meeting the requirements of Natural-born or Naturalized US Citizenship.
Requirements of Naturalization pretty much shoots down the idea of universal suffrage.

People really voted for this dumb ass 3 times.