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Polls and elections - ColinApocalypse - 04-09-2026 09:43 AM
A general thread to talk about elections and the latest polling.
The Wisconsin supreme court election on Tuesday was won by the liberal candidate, Chris Taylor, expanding the liberal majority on the court. Wisconsin is a purple state that Trump won in 2024, but Taylor won by 20 points.
In Georgia, a special election was held for Marjorie Taylor Greene's old seat. It's a deep red district that Trump won by almost 40 points, and Greene won by 29 points. The GOP candidate still won, but the margin was slimmed down to 12 points.
https://www.npr.org/2026/04/08/nx-s1-5770114/democrats-wisconsin-georgia-election-shift-overperformance-trump
"According to the election analysis publication The Downballot, Democrats have improved upon their 2024 presidential election margins by an average of 11% in special elections so far in 2026 and roughly 13% since the start of 2025.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court race shows increased support for Democrats is not limited to special elections, either. Commanding Democratic victories in the New Jersey and Virginia governors' races and flipped municipal races across the country continue to highlight how unpopular Republican governance in Washington is with voters."
"For statewide primaries that have occurred so far in 2026, that Democratic enthusiasm is on display: In Texas' primary last month, a record 2.3 million votes were cast in the Democratic contest. More people voted in the Democratic statewide primary in North Carolina than the Republican one. Mississippi saw a nearly 80% increase in Democratic primary turnout since the last Senate primary in 2018."
Despite the Democratic Party being unpopular, their overperformance since Trump returned to office shows just how fed up people are with what's happening in the White House.
Newest polls show Trump's approval rating between 36-40% and dropping. Approval rating among younger voters (18-35), a key block that helped get him elected again, has fallen to 20%...an almost unprecedented number.
RE: Polls and elections - Motown Bronco - 04-09-2026 10:35 AM
(04-09-2026 09:43 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote: Newest polls show Trump's approval rating between 36-40% and dropping.
If it starts cratering below that, then we're on to something. But it's been stuck in that range for so long, I often consider it the floor. We're down to the base of people who will never, ever abandon their Trumper identity.
Tiny sample size, obviously, but the small handful of right-wing posters here have not budged.
RE: Polls and elections - MajorHoople - 04-09-2026 11:05 AM
(04-09-2026 10:35 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:(04-09-2026 09:43 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote: Newest polls show Trump's approval rating between 36-40% and dropping.
If it starts cratering below that, then we're on to something. But it's been stuck in that range for so long, I often consider it the floor. We're down to the base of people who will never, ever abandon their Trumper identity.
Tiny sample size, obviously, but the small handful of right-wing posters here have not budged.
Neither have the "Republicans" in Congress.
RE: Polls and elections - ColinApocalypse - 04-09-2026 11:15 AM
(04-09-2026 10:35 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:(04-09-2026 09:43 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote: Newest polls show Trump's approval rating between 36-40% and dropping.
If it starts cratering below that, then we're on to something. But it's been stuck in that range for so long, I often consider it the floor. We're down to the base of people who will never, ever abandon their Trumper identity.
Tiny sample size, obviously, but the small handful of right-wing posters here have not budged.
True, but it kind of blows up their whole "mandate from the people" narrative, doesn't it?
RE: Polls and elections - Motown Bronco - 04-22-2026 09:20 AM
Republicans: "Let's redistrict Texas with no voter input to help GOP nominees win 5 seats... yeah baby, own those libs!"
Also Republicans: "How dare you take a vote in Virginia and then redistrict the state to help Dem nominees win seats!"
RE: Polls and elections - ColinApocalypse - 04-22-2026 09:25 AM
(04-22-2026 09:20 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote: Republicans: "Let's redistrict Texas with no voter input to help GOP nominees win 5 seats... yeah baby, own those libs!"
Also Republicans: "How dare you take a vote in Virginia and then redistrict the state to help Dem nominees win seats!"
I don't love all this gerrymandering on steroids, but the GOP absolutely started this mess and have no right to complain.
I hope someday, if and when we get a sane administration again, redistricting and the entire electoral process get an overhaul. Things are getting out of control.
RE: Polls and elections - Motown Bronco - 04-22-2026 09:31 AM
(04-22-2026 09:25 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:(04-22-2026 09:20 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote: Republicans: "Let's redistrict Texas with no voter input to help GOP nominees win 5 seats... yeah baby, own those libs!"
Also Republicans: "How dare you take a vote in Virginia and then redistrict the state to help Dem nominees win seats!"
I don't love all this gerrymandering on steroids, but the GOP absolutely started this mess and have no right to complain.
I hope someday, if and when we get a sane administration again, redistricting and the entire electoral process get an overhaul. Things are getting out of control.
Totally agree.
Same for the presidential pardon.
RE: Polls and elections - Brownandgoldlaker - 04-22-2026 11:34 AM
(04-22-2026 09:25 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:(04-22-2026 09:20 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote: Republicans: "Let's redistrict Texas with no voter input to help GOP nominees win 5 seats... yeah baby, own those libs!"
Also Republicans: "How dare you take a vote in Virginia and then redistrict the state to help Dem nominees win seats!"
I don't love all this gerrymandering on steroids, but the GOP absolutely started this mess and have no right to complain.
I hope someday, if and when we get a sane administration again, redistricting and the entire electoral process get an overhaul. Things are getting out of control.
Heard a great a great analogy today: "Republicans are getting into a murder contest with a Serial Killer, which is a bad idea". The Partisan gerrymandering by Democratic lead states has been taking place long, long time before Texas decided to throw their hat in the ring.
I agree with you Colin, redistricting should only take place every 10 years after the census and the map should be created by a non partisan committee to make sure State voters are fairly and accuracy represented. Interesting, this is exacting what happened in 2020 in Virginia, but they could not agree, so the Supreme court appointed special masters to draw the maps in 2023. Now just 3 years later, they need to re-draw the maps again??
Partisan gerrymandering means that elected officials are choosing their voters. I hope the Supreme court will revisit Rucho decision as I believe a judicially manageable standards can be established for when partisan gerrymandering violates the Constitution. Until then, we will just see more of the same by both parties.
RE: Polls and elections - ColinApocalypse - 04-22-2026 12:34 PM
(04-22-2026 11:34 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:(04-22-2026 09:25 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:(04-22-2026 09:20 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote: Republicans: "Let's redistrict Texas with no voter input to help GOP nominees win 5 seats... yeah baby, own those libs!"
Also Republicans: "How dare you take a vote in Virginia and then redistrict the state to help Dem nominees win seats!"
I don't love all this gerrymandering on steroids, but the GOP absolutely started this mess and have no right to complain.
I hope someday, if and when we get a sane administration again, redistricting and the entire electoral process get an overhaul. Things are getting out of control.
Heard a great a great analogy today: "Republicans are getting into a murder contest with a Serial Killer, which is a bad idea". The Partisan gerrymandering by Democratic lead states has been taking place long, long time before Texas decided to throw their hat in the ring.
I agree with you Colin, redistricting should only take place every 10 years after the census and the map should be created by a non partisan committee to make sure State voters are fairly and accuracy represented. Interesting, this is exacting what happened in 2020 in Virginia, but they could not agree, so the Supreme court appointed special masters to draw the maps in 2023. Now just 3 years later, they need to re-draw the maps again??
Partisan gerrymandering means that elected officials are choosing their voters. I hope the Supreme court will revisit Rucho decision as I believe a judicially manageable standards can be established for when partisan gerrymandering violates the Constitution. Until then, we will just see more of the same by both parties.
Glad we can agree on this issue at least.
RE: Polls and elections - NIU007 - 04-22-2026 01:28 PM
(04-22-2026 11:34 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:(04-22-2026 09:25 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:(04-22-2026 09:20 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote: Republicans: "Let's redistrict Texas with no voter input to help GOP nominees win 5 seats... yeah baby, own those libs!"
Also Republicans: "How dare you take a vote in Virginia and then redistrict the state to help Dem nominees win seats!"
I don't love all this gerrymandering on steroids, but the GOP absolutely started this mess and have no right to complain.
I hope someday, if and when we get a sane administration again, redistricting and the entire electoral process get an overhaul. Things are getting out of control.
Heard a great a great analogy today: "Republicans are getting into a murder contest with a Serial Killer, which is a bad idea". The Partisan gerrymandering by Democratic lead states has been taking place long, long time before Texas decided to throw their hat in the ring.
I agree with you Colin, redistricting should only take place every 10 years after the census and the map should be created by a non partisan committee to make sure State voters are fairly and accuracy represented. Interesting, this is exacting what happened in 2020 in Virginia, but they could not agree, so the Supreme court appointed special masters to draw the maps in 2023. Now just 3 years later, they need to re-draw the maps again??
Partisan gerrymandering means that elected officials are choosing their voters. I hope the Supreme court will revisit Rucho decision as I believe a judicially manageable standards can be established for when partisan gerrymandering violates the Constitution. Until then, we will just see more of the same by both parties.
Democrats have already pushed bills to get rid of all gerrymandering and Republicans said no. Twice. Currently they control more state houses than the Democrats so they have more states to gerrymander. They could fix all of this today.
Also, the Democratic states had to put a referendum to the voters to agree/disagree in order to gerrymander, while the red states didn't. Plus, Texas was already gerrymandered, it isn't like it just started doing that.
RE: Polls and elections - Brownandgoldlaker - 04-22-2026 03:02 PM
(04-22-2026 12:34 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:Where we don't agree is "who" started all this Partisan gerrymandering. IL, Maryland, Nevada, New York, Oregon, New Mexico, all Democratic ran states started this manipulation years ago.(04-22-2026 11:34 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:(04-22-2026 09:25 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:(04-22-2026 09:20 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote: Republicans: "Let's redistrict Texas with no voter input to help GOP nominees win 5 seats... yeah baby, own those libs!"
Also Republicans: "How dare you take a vote in Virginia and then redistrict the state to help Dem nominees win seats!"
I don't love all this gerrymandering on steroids, but the GOP absolutely started this mess and have no right to complain.
I hope someday, if and when we get a sane administration again, redistricting and the entire electoral process get an overhaul. Things are getting out of control.
Heard a great a great analogy today: "Republicans are getting into a murder contest with a Serial Killer, which is a bad idea". The Partisan gerrymandering by Democratic lead states has been taking place long, long time before Texas decided to throw their hat in the ring.
I agree with you Colin, redistricting should only take place every 10 years after the census and the map should be created by a non partisan committee to make sure State voters are fairly and accuracy represented. Interesting, this is exacting what happened in 2020 in Virginia, but they could not agree, so the Supreme court appointed special masters to draw the maps in 2023. Now just 3 years later, they need to re-draw the maps again??
Partisan gerrymandering means that elected officials are choosing their voters. I hope the Supreme court will revisit Rucho decision as I believe a judicially manageable standards can be established for when partisan gerrymandering violates the Constitution. Until then, we will just see more of the same by both parties.
Glad we can agree on this issue at least.
I don't like it, but I don't blame Republicans for deciding to join in.
RE: Polls and elections - NIU007 - 04-22-2026 03:19 PM
Well at least Virginia went along with it so we're not at a disadvantage in attempting to keep our democracy from ending.
RE: Polls and elections - Motown Bronco - 04-22-2026 03:30 PM
Midcycle redistricting between censuses that isn't court ordered is very rare. Until 2025, it's only happened twice since 1970: Texas and Georgia in the 2000s. And then Texas kicked things off again in 2025 followed by several more "red" and "blue" states.
RE: Polls and elections - Motown Bronco - 04-22-2026 03:56 PM
"A RIGGED ELECTION TOOK PLACE LAST NIGHT IN THE GREAT COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA!" - Donald Trump today on Truth Social, using those all caps
I mean... at some point, wouldn't even MAGA supporters get tired of this nonsense after every voting outcome, at every level, that doesn't go their way?
RE: Polls and elections - BroncoMinor - 04-22-2026 04:16 PM
(04-22-2026 03:02 PM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:I'm sure you can point to other Presidents being as brazen about gerrymandering as this.(04-22-2026 12:34 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:Where we don't agree is "who" started all this Partisan gerrymandering. IL, Maryland, Nevada, New York, Oregon, New Mexico, all Democratic ran states started this manipulation years ago.(04-22-2026 11:34 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:(04-22-2026 09:25 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:(04-22-2026 09:20 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote: Republicans: "Let's redistrict Texas with no voter input to help GOP nominees win 5 seats... yeah baby, own those libs!"
Also Republicans: "How dare you take a vote in Virginia and then redistrict the state to help Dem nominees win seats!"
I don't love all this gerrymandering on steroids, but the GOP absolutely started this mess and have no right to complain.
I hope someday, if and when we get a sane administration again, redistricting and the entire electoral process get an overhaul. Things are getting out of control.
Heard a great a great analogy today: "Republicans are getting into a murder contest with a Serial Killer, which is a bad idea". The Partisan gerrymandering by Democratic lead states has been taking place long, long time before Texas decided to throw their hat in the ring.
I agree with you Colin, redistricting should only take place every 10 years after the census and the map should be created by a non partisan committee to make sure State voters are fairly and accuracy represented. Interesting, this is exacting what happened in 2020 in Virginia, but they could not agree, so the Supreme court appointed special masters to draw the maps in 2023. Now just 3 years later, they need to re-draw the maps again??
Partisan gerrymandering means that elected officials are choosing their voters. I hope the Supreme court will revisit Rucho decision as I believe a judicially manageable standards can be established for when partisan gerrymandering violates the Constitution. Until then, we will just see more of the same by both parties.
Glad we can agree on this issue at least.
I don't like it, but I don't blame Republicans for deciding to join in.
RE: Polls and elections - Brownandgoldlaker - 04-22-2026 05:15 PM
(04-22-2026 04:16 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:(04-22-2026 03:02 PM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:I'm sure you can point to other Presidents being as brazen about gerrymandering as this.(04-22-2026 12:34 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:Where we don't agree is "who" started all this Partisan gerrymandering. IL, Maryland, Nevada, New York, Oregon, New Mexico, all Democratic ran states started this manipulation years ago.(04-22-2026 11:34 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:(04-22-2026 09:25 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote: I don't love all this gerrymandering on steroids, but the GOP absolutely started this mess and have no right to complain.
I hope someday, if and when we get a sane administration again, redistricting and the entire electoral process get an overhaul. Things are getting out of control.
Heard a great a great analogy today: "Republicans are getting into a murder contest with a Serial Killer, which is a bad idea". The Partisan gerrymandering by Democratic lead states has been taking place long, long time before Texas decided to throw their hat in the ring.
I agree with you Colin, redistricting should only take place every 10 years after the census and the map should be created by a non partisan committee to make sure State voters are fairly and accuracy represented. Interesting, this is exacting what happened in 2020 in Virginia, but they could not agree, so the Supreme court appointed special masters to draw the maps in 2023. Now just 3 years later, they need to re-draw the maps again??
Partisan gerrymandering means that elected officials are choosing their voters. I hope the Supreme court will revisit Rucho decision as I believe a judicially manageable standards can be established for when partisan gerrymandering violates the Constitution. Until then, we will just see more of the same by both parties.
Glad we can agree on this issue at least.
I don't like it, but I don't blame Republicans for deciding to join in.
Because you asked:
https://www.facebook.com/100059396147148/videos/pcb.1369183558404836/980514491002701
RE: Polls and elections - NIU007 - 04-22-2026 05:25 PM
(04-22-2026 05:15 PM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:(04-22-2026 04:16 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:(04-22-2026 03:02 PM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:I'm sure you can point to other Presidents being as brazen about gerrymandering as this.(04-22-2026 12:34 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:Where we don't agree is "who" started all this Partisan gerrymandering. IL, Maryland, Nevada, New York, Oregon, New Mexico, all Democratic ran states started this manipulation years ago.(04-22-2026 11:34 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote: Heard a great a great analogy today: "Republicans are getting into a murder contest with a Serial Killer, which is a bad idea". The Partisan gerrymandering by Democratic lead states has been taking place long, long time before Texas decided to throw their hat in the ring.
I agree with you Colin, redistricting should only take place every 10 years after the census and the map should be created by a non partisan committee to make sure State voters are fairly and accuracy represented. Interesting, this is exacting what happened in 2020 in Virginia, but they could not agree, so the Supreme court appointed special masters to draw the maps in 2023. Now just 3 years later, they need to re-draw the maps again??
Partisan gerrymandering means that elected officials are choosing their voters. I hope the Supreme court will revisit Rucho decision as I believe a judicially manageable standards can be established for when partisan gerrymandering violates the Constitution. Until then, we will just see more of the same by both parties.
Glad we can agree on this issue at least.
I don't like it, but I don't blame Republicans for deciding to join in.
Because you asked:
https://www.facebook.com/100059396147148/videos/pcb.1369183558404836/980514491002701
That's very disingenuous. Democrats have tried to get rid of gerrymandering but they can't without Republican support, which they don't get. Obama is like the rest of us, doesn't want gerrymandering but you can't unilaterally disarm, especially when dealing with a psychopath like Trump.
RE: Polls and elections - BroncoMinor - 04-22-2026 05:32 PM
(04-22-2026 05:15 PM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:(04-22-2026 04:16 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:(04-22-2026 03:02 PM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote:I'm sure you can point to other Presidents being as brazen about gerrymandering as this.(04-22-2026 12:34 PM)ColinApocalypse Wrote:Where we don't agree is "who" started all this Partisan gerrymandering. IL, Maryland, Nevada, New York, Oregon, New Mexico, all Democratic ran states started this manipulation years ago.(04-22-2026 11:34 AM)Brownandgoldlaker Wrote: Heard a great a great analogy today: "Republicans are getting into a murder contest with a Serial Killer, which is a bad idea". The Partisan gerrymandering by Democratic lead states has been taking place long, long time before Texas decided to throw their hat in the ring.
I agree with you Colin, redistricting should only take place every 10 years after the census and the map should be created by a non partisan committee to make sure State voters are fairly and accuracy represented. Interesting, this is exacting what happened in 2020 in Virginia, but they could not agree, so the Supreme court appointed special masters to draw the maps in 2023. Now just 3 years later, they need to re-draw the maps again??
Partisan gerrymandering means that elected officials are choosing their voters. I hope the Supreme court will revisit Rucho decision as I believe a judicially manageable standards can be established for when partisan gerrymandering violates the Constitution. Until then, we will just see more of the same by both parties.
Glad we can agree on this issue at least.
I don't like it, but I don't blame Republicans for deciding to join in.
Because you asked:
https://www.facebook.com/100059396147148/videos/pcb.1369183558404836/980514491002701
I guess you'll tell yourself that wasn't in reaction to Trump and Texas. I was also talking about sitting Presidents.
Did you forget about 2018 when Michigan elected a Dem Governor, Dem SoS, Dem Attorney General and passed a non partisan redistricting bill that relies on 4 Dems, 4 Republicans, & 5 Independents to redraw district lines based on the Census?
Every state should follow suit.
But, if Trump & Abbott are going to try and steal the House, the Dems aren't going to sit back and take it. Dems will fight back and MAGAs will whine like little snowflakes. MAGAs believe that only they are allowed to cheat.
RE: Polls and elections - Motown Bronco - 04-23-2026 08:09 AM
(04-22-2026 05:25 PM)NIU007 Wrote: Democrats have tried to get rid of gerrymandering but they can't without Republican support, which they don't get. Obama is like the rest of us, doesn't want gerrymandering but you can't unilaterally disarm, especially when dealing with a psychopath like Trump.
Yes, that's an important point to make here. "For the People Act" in 2021 would've banned partisan gerrymandering and established those independent commissions. Every Republican senator voted against it.
I do see a MAGA-appointed judge in Virginia is blocking the redistricting.
RE: Polls and elections - Motown Bronco - 04-23-2026 08:12 AM
The Washington Post's editorial take on 2025 Texas gerrymander (top) and the 2026 Virginia gerrymander (bottom).
It's what you get when a billionaire oligarch who takes vacays to Mar-a-Lago buys up major legacy media.
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