(02-11-2026 03:41 PM)banker Wrote:  I didn’t realize it was well known that Bad Bunny had been “Diddied” and was part of that fraternity. His fame makes a little more sense now because it’s certainly not talent. Have you guys seen those clips of his concert where his autotune went down, he didn’t know and kept “singing”. It’s bad.

I did see that. Sounded like a retarded sea lion.

(02-11-2026 03:20 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 01:05 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:02 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:59 AM)miko33 Wrote:  That's fair if you don't want to take it further. However, for those who want to respond:

I do think it was a prospecting effort. Sure, maybe it doesn't go off if the SB halftime act was more conventional. However, that's what businesses do though. See an opportunity and pounce. TPUSA did exactly that. Get your foot in the door and if it meets or exceeds your expectations then try to grow it.

Their mission doesn't have to be about making money EXCLUSIVELY. However, it's still a part of the reason they do it. I do not believe the Kirk family would keep it going if they didn't get a high financial benefit from the work. Even if the compensation is low compared to your typical televangelist or politician, I would bet Charlier Kirk stops if his standard of living was little better than above the poverty line.

Kirk may very well have been on a mission. Maybe not. IDK - people can always lie about their intentions. Politicians are extremely good at that and many religious leaders are too. Regardless of how true blue Charlie Kirk may have been...he still got rich doing it. Again, not denigrating him in the least. All I know is there are limits to even the nicest people out there. I've never seen an altruist or an almost altruist ever in my lifetime (so far).

I agree with this fully. Well framed.

Ok, I'll be quick, then out. Kirk's mission was to spread Christianity, not primarily to make money. TPUSA would never look at something strictly as an opportunity to make money. They would look at it as an opportunity to spread the gospel.

Did he need the $6M house or the $1M beachfront condo to spread the word? If the mission was primarily to spread the word how did those assets contribute to that mission?

Are you aware that TPUSA is a non-profit org? I wasn't. They depend on donations for funding, and they pour the majority of it back into political causes.

That means they can't make money off half-time shows, either.

Kirk was paid $27K in 2016, with it rising to about $400k in 2021. I can't find data after that.

Kirk reportedly made the great majority of his money from his podcast, his radio show and public speaking engagements, not from TPUSA.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2024...d7e35153db

Also, when I said his mission was to spread the gospel, that was mostly personal with him and Erika, and the other execs. I figured we all knew TPUSA was a political org, and that's where most of their money goes, to support political causes.

I'm going to look at it for what it is. Regardless of Charlie Kirk's motivations - he got rich as a result of his activism. That Spanish style home in Scottsdale, AZ that they sold was very much top end luxury.

When you fit the pieces of the puzzle together, there's zero doubt in my mind that those in charge of TPUSA had money as a part of the motivating factor. Was it solely for the money? Was it mostly for the message? Who knows. But for a couple who wanted to spread the Gospel...they got rich doing it.

https://kbsd6.com/news/why-charlie-kirks...e_vignette

(02-11-2026 03:48 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I'm going to look at it for what it is. Regardless of Charlie Kirk's motivations - he got rich as a result of his activism. That Spanish style home in Scottsdale, AZ that they sold was very much top end luxury.

When you fit the pieces of the puzzle together, there's zero doubt in my mind that those in charge of TPUSA had money as a part of the motivating factor. Was it solely for the money? Was it mostly for the message? Who knows. But for a couple who wanted to spread the Gospel...they got rich doing it.

https://kbsd6.com/news/why-charlie-kirks...e_vignette

You need to be a little more careful throwing those kinds of accusations around. And you can say "well I'm not suggesting....", but yeah you really kinda are on some level.

CK didn't take any salary for a number of years, he actually made a large amount of his money through the stock market by studying how to work and grow your assets and we all know how much the stock market grew during the last 15 years.

Most people who worked with him during the last decade plus were open about how they almost had to force him to begin to collect any salary and how that is not really how he became wealthy. It was really through the stock market and real estate.

Its not wrong for a Christian to be financially successful if its done honestly, and there is no evidence that this is a man who scammed the public just to enrich himself through TPUSA. In fact all the evidence seems to point to the opposite of that in pretty dramatic fashion. By all accounts and evidence this appears to be a man who was very much the genuine article.

(02-11-2026 04:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 03:48 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I'm going to look at it for what it is. Regardless of Charlie Kirk's motivations - he got rich as a result of his activism. That Spanish style home in Scottsdale, AZ that they sold was very much top end luxury.

When you fit the pieces of the puzzle together, there's zero doubt in my mind that those in charge of TPUSA had money as a part of the motivating factor. Was it solely for the money? Was it mostly for the message? Who knows. But for a couple who wanted to spread the Gospel...they got rich doing it.

https://kbsd6.com/news/why-charlie-kirks...e_vignette

You need to be a little more careful throwing those kinds of accusations around. And you can say "well I'm not suggesting....", but yeah you really kinda are on some level.

CK didn't take any salary for a number of years, he actually made a large amount of his money through the stock market by studying how to work and grow your assets and we all know how much the stock market grew during the last 15 years.

Most people who worked with him during the last decade plus were open about how they almost had to force him to being to collect any salary and how that is not really how he became wealthy.

Its not wrong for a Christian to be financially successful if its done honestly, and there is no evidence that this is man who scammed the public just to enrich himself through TPUSA. In fact all the evidence seems to points to the opposite of that in pretty dramatic fashion. By all accounts and evidence this appears to be a man who was very much the genuine article.

What years, cause he took 300k in 2019 and 400k since them. His TPUSA pay is public record.

TPUSA also indicated on their tax forms they paid for charter and first class flights. It’s pretty easy to bury a lot of “lifestyle” spend inside a non-profits expenses.

(02-11-2026 03:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 03:41 PM)banker Wrote:  I didn’t realize it was well known that Bad Bunny had been “Diddied” and was part of that fraternity. His fame makes a little more sense now because it’s certainly not talent. Have you guys seen those clips of his concert where his autotune went down, he didn’t know and kept “singing”. It’s bad.

I did see that. Sounded like a retarded sea lion.

I looked up that video earlier today and thought to myself..."that sounds like a retarded sea lion" and then I saw your post saying the exact same thing! Now that's funny!

(02-11-2026 04:51 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 04:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 03:48 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I'm going to look at it for what it is. Regardless of Charlie Kirk's motivations - he got rich as a result of his activism. That Spanish style home in Scottsdale, AZ that they sold was very much top end luxury.

When you fit the pieces of the puzzle together, there's zero doubt in my mind that those in charge of TPUSA had money as a part of the motivating factor. Was it solely for the money? Was it mostly for the message? Who knows. But for a couple who wanted to spread the Gospel...they got rich doing it.

https://kbsd6.com/news/why-charlie-kirks...e_vignette

You need to be a little more careful throwing those kinds of accusations around. And you can say "well I'm not suggesting....", but yeah you really kinda are on some level.

CK didn't take any salary for a number of years, he actually made a large amount of his money through the stock market by studying how to work and grow your assets and we all know how much the stock market grew during the last 15 years.

Most people who worked with him during the last decade plus were open about how they almost had to force him to being to collect any salary and how that is not really how he became wealthy.

Its not wrong for a Christian to be financially successful if its done honestly, and there is no evidence that this is man who scammed the public just to enrich himself through TPUSA. In fact all the evidence seems to points to the opposite of that in pretty dramatic fashion. By all accounts and evidence this appears to be a man who was very much the genuine article.

What years, cause he took 300k in 2019 and 400k since them. His TPUSA pay is public record.

TPUSA also indicated on their tax forms they paid for charter and first class flights. It’s pretty easy to bury a lot of “lifestyle” spend inside a non-profits expenses.

TPUSA was founded in 2012. You literally had to fast forward to the end of that decade to even point to anything. And by 2019 it had already grown into one of the largest and most successful organizations in the country, in fact it had already been so for quite a while by 2019.

You have no good evidence that CK was some nefarious con man at, all you have are sad and pathetic attacks on conservative Christian man who was murdered in cold blood by one of your own.

So we're living in a world where a man like CK is smeared based on nothing but "feels" and bitterness by a him/her/it like Elvis.

How pathetic of you.

(02-11-2026 05:07 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 03:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 03:41 PM)banker Wrote:  I didn’t realize it was well known that Bad Bunny had been “Diddied” and was part of that fraternity. His fame makes a little more sense now because it’s certainly not talent. Have you guys seen those clips of his concert where his autotune went down, he didn’t know and kept “singing”. It’s bad.

I did see that. Sounded like a retarded sea lion.

I looked up that video earlier today and thought to myself..."that sounds like a retarded sea lion" and then I saw your post saying the exact same thing! Now that's funny!

I'm good friends in real life with SK. Since you have started thinking exactly like him, I would recommend you see a doctor as soon as possible.

eric continues to spank Evlis.

(02-11-2026 05:09 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 04:51 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 04:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 03:48 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I'm going to look at it for what it is. Regardless of Charlie Kirk's motivations - he got rich as a result of his activism. That Spanish style home in Scottsdale, AZ that they sold was very much top end luxury.

When you fit the pieces of the puzzle together, there's zero doubt in my mind that those in charge of TPUSA had money as a part of the motivating factor. Was it solely for the money? Was it mostly for the message? Who knows. But for a couple who wanted to spread the Gospel...they got rich doing it.

https://kbsd6.com/news/why-charlie-kirks...e_vignette

You need to be a little more careful throwing those kinds of accusations around. And you can say "well I'm not suggesting....", but yeah you really kinda are on some level.

CK didn't take any salary for a number of years, he actually made a large amount of his money through the stock market by studying how to work and grow your assets and we all know how much the stock market grew during the last 15 years.

Most people who worked with him during the last decade plus were open about how they almost had to force him to being to collect any salary and how that is not really how he became wealthy.

Its not wrong for a Christian to be financially successful if its done honestly, and there is no evidence that this is man who scammed the public just to enrich himself through TPUSA. In fact all the evidence seems to points to the opposite of that in pretty dramatic fashion. By all accounts and evidence this appears to be a man who was very much the genuine article.

What years, cause he took 300k in 2019 and 400k since them. His TPUSA pay is public record.

TPUSA also indicated on their tax forms they paid for charter and first class flights. It’s pretty easy to bury a lot of “lifestyle” spend inside a non-profits expenses.

TPUSA was founded in 2012. You literally had to fast forward to the end of that decade to even point to anything. And by 2019 it had already grown into one of the largest and most successful organization in the country, in fact had already been so for quote a while by 2019.

You have no good evidence that CK was some nefarious con man at, all you have are sad and pathetic attacks on conservative Christian man who was murdered in cold blood by one of your own.

So we're living in a world where a man like CK is smeared based on nothing but "feels" and bitterness by a him/her/it like Elvis.

How pathetic of you.

Thank God you said it. Otherwise, I would've said much worse and gotten banned for it.

(02-11-2026 05:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 05:07 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 03:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 03:41 PM)banker Wrote:  I didn’t realize it was well known that Bad Bunny had been “Diddied” and was part of that fraternity. His fame makes a little more sense now because it’s certainly not talent. Have you guys seen those clips of his concert where his autotune went down, he didn’t know and kept “singing”. It’s bad.

I did see that. Sounded like a retarded sea lion.

I looked up that video earlier today and thought to myself..."that sounds like a retarded sea lion" and then I saw your post saying the exact same thing! Now that's funny!

I'm good friends in real life with SK. Since you have started thinking exactly like him, I would recommend you see a doctor as soon as possible.

Dude...listen to the video of Bunny without the auto-tune and tell me it doesn't sound exactly like a retarded sea lion.

(02-11-2026 05:33 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 05:22 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 05:07 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 03:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 03:41 PM)banker Wrote:  I didn’t realize it was well known that Bad Bunny had been “Diddied” and was part of that fraternity. His fame makes a little more sense now because it’s certainly not talent. Have you guys seen those clips of his concert where his autotune went down, he didn’t know and kept “singing”. It’s bad.

I did see that. Sounded like a retarded sea lion.

I looked up that video earlier today and thought to myself..."that sounds like a retarded sea lion" and then I saw your post saying the exact same thing! Now that's funny!

I'm good friends in real life with SK. Since you have started thinking exactly like him, I would recommend you see a doctor as soon as possible.

Dude...listen to the video of Bunny without the auto-tune and tell me it doesn't sound exactly like a retarded sea lion.

He was in Happy Gilmore 2 as a waiter/Happy's caddy, and he did kinda sound like that while speaking English. It make sense.

(02-11-2026 05:09 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 04:51 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 04:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 03:48 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I'm going to look at it for what it is. Regardless of Charlie Kirk's motivations - he got rich as a result of his activism. That Spanish style home in Scottsdale, AZ that they sold was very much top end luxury.

When you fit the pieces of the puzzle together, there's zero doubt in my mind that those in charge of TPUSA had money as a part of the motivating factor. Was it solely for the money? Was it mostly for the message? Who knows. But for a couple who wanted to spread the Gospel...they got rich doing it.

https://kbsd6.com/news/why-charlie-kirks...e_vignette

You need to be a little more careful throwing those kinds of accusations around. And you can say "well I'm not suggesting....", but yeah you really kinda are on some level.

CK didn't take any salary for a number of years, he actually made a large amount of his money through the stock market by studying how to work and grow your assets and we all know how much the stock market grew during the last 15 years.

Most people who worked with him during the last decade plus were open about how they almost had to force him to being to collect any salary and how that is not really how he became wealthy.

Its not wrong for a Christian to be financially successful if its done honestly, and there is no evidence that this is man who scammed the public just to enrich himself through TPUSA. In fact all the evidence seems to points to the opposite of that in pretty dramatic fashion. By all accounts and evidence this appears to be a man who was very much the genuine article.

What years, cause he took 300k in 2019 and 400k since them. His TPUSA pay is public record.

TPUSA also indicated on their tax forms they paid for charter and first class flights. It’s pretty easy to bury a lot of “lifestyle” spend inside a non-profits expenses.

TPUSA was founded in 2012. You literally had to fast forward to the end of that decade to even point to anything. And by 2019 it had already grown into one of the largest and most successful organizations in the country, in fact it had already been so for quite a while by 2019.

You have no good evidence that CK was some nefarious con man at, all you have are sad and pathetic attacks on conservative Christian man who was murdered in cold blood by one of your own.

So we're living in a world where a man like CK is smeared based on nothing but "feels" and bitterness by a him/her/it like Elvis.

How pathetic of you.

So what “number of years” are you suggesting he took zero money? see, that was a question. You didn’t answer it, you added a personal attack instead of answering the question. I like how people are claiming that there is no way that TPUSA is doing anything around the superbowl for money completely based on feels, but asking about your claim gets a personal attack because I’m claiming Charlie was nefarious based on feels.

Charlie Kirk was shot on 9/10 and within the week TPUSA rolled out 6 new shirt designs on their store, so it’s disingenuous to pretend this is an organization that doesn’t take advantage of revenue opportunities.

Oh, no. How dare TPUSA honor their co-founder as fast as they could. Perish the thought!

Some people, man.

(02-11-2026 05:58 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Oh, no. How dare TPUSA honor their co-founder as fast as they could. Perish the thought!

Some people, man.

Yeah, because the first thing normal people think of when someone dies is what merch they can add to their store.

When the alphabet brigade beings to call out the Nancy Pelosi's and Bidens of their side that spent 50 years in congress engaging in insider trading to make themselves literally 10 times richer than Kirk ever did, then maybe we will respect their posts on this.

Until then your comments are just clown city with nothing of substance that is even there to debate.

(02-11-2026 04:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 03:48 PM)miko33 Wrote:  I'm going to look at it for what it is. Regardless of Charlie Kirk's motivations - he got rich as a result of his activism. That Spanish style home in Scottsdale, AZ that they sold was very much top end luxury.

When you fit the pieces of the puzzle together, there's zero doubt in my mind that those in charge of TPUSA had money as a part of the motivating factor. Was it solely for the money? Was it mostly for the message? Who knows. But for a couple who wanted to spread the Gospel...they got rich doing it.

https://kbsd6.com/news/why-charlie-kirks...e_vignette

You need to be a little more careful throwing those kinds of accusations around. And you can say "well I'm not suggesting....", but yeah you really kinda are on some level.

CK didn't take any salary for a number of years, he actually made a large amount of his money through the stock market by studying how to work and grow your assets and we all know how much the stock market grew during the last 15 years.

Most people who worked with him during the last decade plus were open about how they almost had to force him to begin to collect any salary and how that is not really how he became wealthy. It was really through the stock market and real estate.

Its not wrong for a Christian to be financially successful if its done honestly, and there is no evidence that this is a man who scammed the public just to enrich himself through TPUSA. In fact all the evidence seems to point to the opposite of that in pretty dramatic fashion. By all accounts and evidence this appears to be a man who was very much the genuine article.

Well - he got rich at the same time he was doing everything else. I take the skeptics stance when it comes to anyone who happens to make millions while advocating for God and spreading the gospel.

Politically, I agreed with CK's stances. I'm glad he did the advocacy to get more young people to consider conservative viewpoints as a viable option in politics. I hated that he was killed. Wish it didn't happen. But...I'm not going to consider him as being more of an altruist than anyone else. He obviously was motivated by money in his life. You don't get rich unless money is really important to you.

You can still do positive things and also be chasing money.

(02-11-2026 06:08 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  When the alphabet brigade beings to call out the Nancy Pelosi's and Bidens of their side that spent 50 years in congress engaging in insider trading to make themselves literally 10 times richer than Kirk ever did, then maybe we will respect their posts on this.

Until then your comments are just clown city with nothing of substance that is even there to debate.

I’ve many times said congress should only be allowed to invest in index funds.

I also managed to do it without calling you any names, as you seem to have attempted to call me he/she/it and the “alphabet brigade” vs answering a simple question I asked.

(02-11-2026 06:16 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Well - he got rich at the same time he was doing everything else. I take the skeptics stance when it comes to anyone who happens to make millions while advocating for God and spreading the gospel.

So in other words, YES. You were criticizing or questioning him because he dared earn money for his family while being a Christian.

Which is exactly what I suspected you were doing.

You have no real evidence the man did anything nefarious or illegal, you just don't like the fact that he dared make money for his family while proclaiming to be a Christian.

Because apparently in your view its perfectly fine and even noble for everyone else in the world to make money for their family, unless your are a Christian. That somehow makes you a questionable person and character in your view.

And of course there is also the other elephant in the room here that CK was not running a church, he was openly running a political organization.

By your own admission you're not bothered that he made money, your bothered by the fact that he was a Christian who made money.

(02-11-2026 05:58 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Oh, no. How dare TPUSA honor their co-founder as fast as they could. Perish the thought!

Some people, man.

TBF though, it wasn't a good look by TPUSA. Elvis brings up a legitimate point that TPUSA didn't even wait for the body to get cold before they were selling CK merch to honor his life. And it sold out pretty fast.

It did look similar to the Paul Wellstone memorial service where Democrats turned what should have been a day of mourning for his family into a political rally.

I'm not trying to denigrate CK or TPUSA. But this is what people do. It's human nature that we instinctively try to capitalize on any advantage we can get. Rahm Emanuel said to never let a crisis go to waste. That phrase is very much a universal truth that all humans take advantage of. It's who we are.

Full disclosure: I ruined the "Sound of Music" for my MIL when I told her what really happened with the von Trapp family. I have a penchant for ruining things for people... :(

(02-11-2026 06:26 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 06:16 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Well - he got rich at the same time he was doing everything else. I take the skeptics stance when it comes to anyone who happens to make millions while advocating for God and spreading the gospel.

So in other words, YES. You were criticizing or questioning him because he dared earn money for his family while being a Christian.

Which is exactly what I suspected you were doing.

You have no real evidence the man did anything nefarious or illegal, you just don't like the fact that he dared make money for his family while proclaiming to be a Christian.

Because apparently in your view its perfectly fine and even noble for everyone else in the world to make money for their family, unless your are a Christian. That somehow makes you a questionable person and character in your view.

And of course there is also the other elephant in the room here that CK was not running a church, he was openly running a political organization.

By your own admission you're not bothered that he made money, your bothered by the fact that he was a Christian who made money.

Your saying it’s OK for them to make money, which is fine, but the post several people were responding to is this :

“Ok, I'll be quick, then out. Kirk's mission was to spread Christianity, not primarily to make money. TPUSA would never look at something strictly as an opportunity to make money. They would look at it as an opportunity to spread the gospel.“

Which is claiming that these people are too Christian to even worry about making money. Which based on the mansion is BS.