(02-11-2026 11:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:00 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 10:42 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Miko, do you think TPUSA did the alternate halftime show to make money? I don't.

I think they did it to give their typical audience an alternative to Bad Bunny. If it had been a SB country music halftime show, I doubt they would have even done a show.

But now, it was so successful, they seem to be planning to do it every year, going forward. But I don't think for a second that their prime motivation was money.

I also don't recall any ads when I watched it live on YT.

Yes, absolutely. Based on the article below Charlie Kirk was worth $12 million. In no way am I begrudging anyone from making money if they are putting in the work and offering something that people want. He wasn't rich either. However, you almost never (probably never) see a leader of even the most noble cause/movement out there live like a middle class person or lower. These guys aren't taking vows of poverty to push EVERYTHING into the cause. Par for the course for these guys - they live very comfortable lives.

TPUSA didn't do this as a give back to the fans. This was a prospecting venture. If they did it - how many would want to see it? How successful could it be? How much can they make? That's why next year will be so much better. Because they didn't put a lot of resources into it. It was all about exploring the market.

https://thedailyguardian.com/world/us/ch...ve-655433/

I don't believe for a second that it was a prospecting venture. I bet if it had been a SB performer acceptable to their followers, they wouldn't have done it.

I also disagree that their mission is to make money. It's simply a byproduct of the effort.

IMO, you don't understand Kirk or the mission. And I'm not into it at all, but I've seen enough interviews with Kirk before he died to think that he was on a mission, and it wasn't to become rich. JMO, but I don't care enough to take it further.

That's fair if you don't want to take it further. However, for those who want to respond:

I do think it was a prospecting effort. Sure, maybe it doesn't go off if the SB halftime act was more conventional. However, that's what businesses do though. See an opportunity and pounce. TPUSA did exactly that. Get your foot in the door and if it meets or exceeds your expectations then try to grow it.

Their mission doesn't have to be about making money EXCLUSIVELY. However, it's still a part of the reason they do it. I do not believe the Kirk family would keep it going if they didn't get a high financial benefit from the work. Even if the compensation is low compared to your typical televangelist or politician, I would bet Charlier Kirk stops if his standard of living was little better than above the poverty line.

Kirk may very well have been on a mission. Maybe not. IDK - people can always lie about their intentions. Politicians are extremely good at that and many religious leaders are too. Regardless of how true blue Charlie Kirk may have been...he still got rich doing it. Again, not denigrating him in the least. All I know is there are limits to even the nicest people out there. I've never seen an altruist or an almost altruist ever in my lifetime (so far).

(02-11-2026 11:54 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I didn't watch the show, but I heard it was terrible.

From what I've seen after the fact (I didn't watch it live), it was horsecrap.

(02-11-2026 11:54 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I didn't watch the show, but I heard it was terrible.

Welcome back! Seriously, I Hope you're in good spirits.

I am no fan of hip hop, or Latin music, or Bad Bunny. But it was enjoyable to watch. It was a neat setup and the choreography was done well.

I just wish everyone would stop looking to a 15-minute show in the middle of a football game to be some national kumbaya moment, and just try and enjoy it.

(02-11-2026 12:00 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:54 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I didn't watch the show, but I heard it was terrible.

From what I've seen after the fact (I didn't watch it live), it was horsecrap.

I didn't watch the TPUSA show either, but I heard it was just as bad.

CK died so his organization could be turned into a laughing stock.

(02-11-2026 11:59 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:00 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 10:42 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Miko, do you think TPUSA did the alternate halftime show to make money? I don't.

I think they did it to give their typical audience an alternative to Bad Bunny. If it had been a SB country music halftime show, I doubt they would have even done a show.

But now, it was so successful, they seem to be planning to do it every year, going forward. But I don't think for a second that their prime motivation was money.

I also don't recall any ads when I watched it live on YT.

Yes, absolutely. Based on the article below Charlie Kirk was worth $12 million. In no way am I begrudging anyone from making money if they are putting in the work and offering something that people want. He wasn't rich either. However, you almost never (probably never) see a leader of even the most noble cause/movement out there live like a middle class person or lower. These guys aren't taking vows of poverty to push EVERYTHING into the cause. Par for the course for these guys - they live very comfortable lives.

TPUSA didn't do this as a give back to the fans. This was a prospecting venture. If they did it - how many would want to see it? How successful could it be? How much can they make? That's why next year will be so much better. Because they didn't put a lot of resources into it. It was all about exploring the market.

https://thedailyguardian.com/world/us/ch...ve-655433/

I don't believe for a second that it was a prospecting venture. I bet if it had been a SB performer acceptable to their followers, they wouldn't have done it.

I also disagree that their mission is to make money. It's simply a byproduct of the effort.

IMO, you don't understand Kirk or the mission. And I'm not into it at all, but I've seen enough interviews with Kirk before he died to think that he was on a mission, and it wasn't to become rich. JMO, but I don't care enough to take it further.

That's fair if you don't want to take it further. However, for those who want to respond:

I do think it was a prospecting effort. Sure, maybe it doesn't go off if the SB halftime act was more conventional. However, that's what businesses do though. See an opportunity and pounce. TPUSA did exactly that. Get your foot in the door and if it meets or exceeds your expectations then try to grow it.

Their mission doesn't have to be about making money EXCLUSIVELY. However, it's still a part of the reason they do it. I do not believe the Kirk family would keep it going if they didn't get a high financial benefit from the work. Even if the compensation is low compared to your typical televangelist or politician, I would bet Charlier Kirk stops if his standard of living was little better than above the poverty line.

Kirk may very well have been on a mission. Maybe not. IDK - people can always lie about their intentions. Politicians are extremely good at that and many religious leaders are too. Regardless of how true blue Charlie Kirk may have been...he still got rich doing it. Again, not denigrating him in the least. All I know is there are limits to even the nicest people out there. I've never seen an altruist or an almost altruist ever in my lifetime (so far).

I agree with this fully. Well framed.

(02-11-2026 12:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:54 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I didn't watch the show, but I heard it was terrible.

Welcome back! Seriously, I Hope you're in good spirits.

I am no fan of hip hop, or Latin music, or Bad Bunny. But it was enjoyable to watch. It was a neat setup and the choreography was done well.

I just wish everyone would stop looking to a 15-minute show in the middle of a football game to be some national kumbaya moment, and just try and enjoy it.

That's an important point. I do not care for Bad Bunny (his music, his lyrics, etc.) but the production of the event was impressive.

(02-11-2026 12:03 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:54 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I didn't watch the show, but I heard it was terrible.

Welcome back! Seriously, I Hope you're in good spirits.

I am no fan of hip hop, or Latin music, or Bad Bunny. But it was enjoyable to watch. It was a neat setup and the choreography was done well.

I just wish everyone would stop looking to a 15-minute show in the middle of a football game to be some national kumbaya moment, and just try and enjoy it.

That's an important point. I do not care for Bad Bunny (his music, his lyrics, etc.) but the production of the event was impressive.

The Superbowl is the most overhyped and overproduced event in this country.

(02-11-2026 12:06 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:03 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:54 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I didn't watch the show, but I heard it was terrible.

Welcome back! Seriously, I Hope you're in good spirits.

I am no fan of hip hop, or Latin music, or Bad Bunny. But it was enjoyable to watch. It was a neat setup and the choreography was done well.

I just wish everyone would stop looking to a 15-minute show in the middle of a football game to be some national kumbaya moment, and just try and enjoy it.

That's an important point. I do not care for Bad Bunny (his music, his lyrics, etc.) but the production of the event was impressive.

The Superbowl is the most overhyped and overproduced event in this country.

Can't really disagree...the stupid extra week doesn't help that either. I would just like to watch the football game.

(02-11-2026 12:03 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:54 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I didn't watch the show, but I heard it was terrible.

Welcome back! Seriously, I Hope you're in good spirits.

I am no fan of hip hop, or Latin music, or Bad Bunny. But it was enjoyable to watch. It was a neat setup and the choreography was done well.

I just wish everyone would stop looking to a 15-minute show in the middle of a football game to be some national kumbaya moment, and just try and enjoy it.

That's an important point. I do not care for Bad Bunny (his music, his lyrics, etc.) but the production of the event was impressive.

All the sugarcane being people to facilitate getting them on and off the field fast, and rearrange during the show (I’m assuming like a marching band on their dots) was cool.

I’m assuming he joked about the frequent blackouts in PR when he climbed the power poles. It’s funny, a med device or pharma manufacturing plant in the US a lot of the times will have a packaged 500kw to 2mw genset sitting on top of a a diesel tank that fits under the footprint of the genset. In PR you will see massive white round tanks of diesel (like Jet-A storage at an airport) with 10x the amount of fuel onsite.

(02-11-2026 12:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:54 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I didn't watch the show, but I heard it was terrible.

Welcome back! Seriously, I Hope you're in good spirits.

I am no fan of hip hop, or Latin music, or Bad Bunny. But it was enjoyable to watch. It was a neat setup and the choreography was done well.

I just wish everyone would stop looking to a 15-minute show in the middle of a football game to be some national kumbaya moment, and just try and enjoy it.

Personally, I'm not a fan of weird looking Puerto Rican dudes, dressed like a girl, and constantly grabbing his/her crotch, even if the "choreography is done well". But hey, it's a free country and we can like different things. I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed it so much. Hope you and the kitties are having a good week!

(02-11-2026 12:02 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:59 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:00 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 10:42 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Miko, do you think TPUSA did the alternate halftime show to make money? I don't.

I think they did it to give their typical audience an alternative to Bad Bunny. If it had been a SB country music halftime show, I doubt they would have even done a show.

But now, it was so successful, they seem to be planning to do it every year, going forward. But I don't think for a second that their prime motivation was money.

I also don't recall any ads when I watched it live on YT.

Yes, absolutely. Based on the article below Charlie Kirk was worth $12 million. In no way am I begrudging anyone from making money if they are putting in the work and offering something that people want. He wasn't rich either. However, you almost never (probably never) see a leader of even the most noble cause/movement out there live like a middle class person or lower. These guys aren't taking vows of poverty to push EVERYTHING into the cause. Par for the course for these guys - they live very comfortable lives.

TPUSA didn't do this as a give back to the fans. This was a prospecting venture. If they did it - how many would want to see it? How successful could it be? How much can they make? That's why next year will be so much better. Because they didn't put a lot of resources into it. It was all about exploring the market.

https://thedailyguardian.com/world/us/ch...ve-655433/

I don't believe for a second that it was a prospecting venture. I bet if it had been a SB performer acceptable to their followers, they wouldn't have done it.

I also disagree that their mission is to make money. It's simply a byproduct of the effort.

IMO, you don't understand Kirk or the mission. And I'm not into it at all, but I've seen enough interviews with Kirk before he died to think that he was on a mission, and it wasn't to become rich. JMO, but I don't care enough to take it further.

That's fair if you don't want to take it further. However, for those who want to respond:

I do think it was a prospecting effort. Sure, maybe it doesn't go off if the SB halftime act was more conventional. However, that's what businesses do though. See an opportunity and pounce. TPUSA did exactly that. Get your foot in the door and if it meets or exceeds your expectations then try to grow it.

Their mission doesn't have to be about making money EXCLUSIVELY. However, it's still a part of the reason they do it. I do not believe the Kirk family would keep it going if they didn't get a high financial benefit from the work. Even if the compensation is low compared to your typical televangelist or politician, I would bet Charlier Kirk stops if his standard of living was little better than above the poverty line.

Kirk may very well have been on a mission. Maybe not. IDK - people can always lie about their intentions. Politicians are extremely good at that and many religious leaders are too. Regardless of how true blue Charlie Kirk may have been...he still got rich doing it. Again, not denigrating him in the least. All I know is there are limits to even the nicest people out there. I've never seen an altruist or an almost altruist ever in my lifetime (so far).

I agree with this fully. Well framed.

Ok, I'll be quick, then out. Kirk's mission was to spread Christianity, not primarily to make money. TPUSA would never look at something strictly as an opportunity to make money. They would look at it as an opportunity to spread the gospel.

(02-11-2026 12:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:02 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:59 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:00 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Yes, absolutely. Based on the article below Charlie Kirk was worth $12 million. In no way am I begrudging anyone from making money if they are putting in the work and offering something that people want. He wasn't rich either. However, you almost never (probably never) see a leader of even the most noble cause/movement out there live like a middle class person or lower. These guys aren't taking vows of poverty to push EVERYTHING into the cause. Par for the course for these guys - they live very comfortable lives.

TPUSA didn't do this as a give back to the fans. This was a prospecting venture. If they did it - how many would want to see it? How successful could it be? How much can they make? That's why next year will be so much better. Because they didn't put a lot of resources into it. It was all about exploring the market.

https://thedailyguardian.com/world/us/ch...ve-655433/

I don't believe for a second that it was a prospecting venture. I bet if it had been a SB performer acceptable to their followers, they wouldn't have done it.

I also disagree that their mission is to make money. It's simply a byproduct of the effort.

IMO, you don't understand Kirk or the mission. And I'm not into it at all, but I've seen enough interviews with Kirk before he died to think that he was on a mission, and it wasn't to become rich. JMO, but I don't care enough to take it further.

That's fair if you don't want to take it further. However, for those who want to respond:

I do think it was a prospecting effort. Sure, maybe it doesn't go off if the SB halftime act was more conventional. However, that's what businesses do though. See an opportunity and pounce. TPUSA did exactly that. Get your foot in the door and if it meets or exceeds your expectations then try to grow it.

Their mission doesn't have to be about making money EXCLUSIVELY. However, it's still a part of the reason they do it. I do not believe the Kirk family would keep it going if they didn't get a high financial benefit from the work. Even if the compensation is low compared to your typical televangelist or politician, I would bet Charlier Kirk stops if his standard of living was little better than above the poverty line.

Kirk may very well have been on a mission. Maybe not. IDK - people can always lie about their intentions. Politicians are extremely good at that and many religious leaders are too. Regardless of how true blue Charlie Kirk may have been...he still got rich doing it. Again, not denigrating him in the least. All I know is there are limits to even the nicest people out there. I've never seen an altruist or an almost altruist ever in my lifetime (so far).

I agree with this fully. Well framed.

Ok, I'll be quick, then out. Kirk's mission was to spread Christianity, not primarily to make money. TPUSA would never look at something strictly as an opportunity to make money. They would look at it as an opportunity to spread the gospel.

#Naivety

(02-11-2026 12:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:02 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:59 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't believe for a second that it was a prospecting venture. I bet if it had been a SB performer acceptable to their followers, they wouldn't have done it.

I also disagree that their mission is to make money. It's simply a byproduct of the effort.

IMO, you don't understand Kirk or the mission. And I'm not into it at all, but I've seen enough interviews with Kirk before he died to think that he was on a mission, and it wasn't to become rich. JMO, but I don't care enough to take it further.

That's fair if you don't want to take it further. However, for those who want to respond:

I do think it was a prospecting effort. Sure, maybe it doesn't go off if the SB halftime act was more conventional. However, that's what businesses do though. See an opportunity and pounce. TPUSA did exactly that. Get your foot in the door and if it meets or exceeds your expectations then try to grow it.

Their mission doesn't have to be about making money EXCLUSIVELY. However, it's still a part of the reason they do it. I do not believe the Kirk family would keep it going if they didn't get a high financial benefit from the work. Even if the compensation is low compared to your typical televangelist or politician, I would bet Charlier Kirk stops if his standard of living was little better than above the poverty line.

Kirk may very well have been on a mission. Maybe not. IDK - people can always lie about their intentions. Politicians are extremely good at that and many religious leaders are too. Regardless of how true blue Charlie Kirk may have been...he still got rich doing it. Again, not denigrating him in the least. All I know is there are limits to even the nicest people out there. I've never seen an altruist or an almost altruist ever in my lifetime (so far).

I agree with this fully. Well framed.

Ok, I'll be quick, then out. Kirk's mission was to spread Christianity, not primarily to make money. TPUSA would never look at something strictly as an opportunity to make money. They would look at it as an opportunity to spread the gospel.

#Naivety

You're an expert on Charlie Kirk and TPUSA? You think money is their primary motivator? You think they put on that show primarily to make money?

Then you're naive, not me.

(02-11-2026 12:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:02 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:59 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:00 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Yes, absolutely. Based on the article below Charlie Kirk was worth $12 million. In no way am I begrudging anyone from making money if they are putting in the work and offering something that people want. He wasn't rich either. However, you almost never (probably never) see a leader of even the most noble cause/movement out there live like a middle class person or lower. These guys aren't taking vows of poverty to push EVERYTHING into the cause. Par for the course for these guys - they live very comfortable lives.

TPUSA didn't do this as a give back to the fans. This was a prospecting venture. If they did it - how many would want to see it? How successful could it be? How much can they make? That's why next year will be so much better. Because they didn't put a lot of resources into it. It was all about exploring the market.

https://thedailyguardian.com/world/us/ch...ve-655433/

I don't believe for a second that it was a prospecting venture. I bet if it had been a SB performer acceptable to their followers, they wouldn't have done it.

I also disagree that their mission is to make money. It's simply a byproduct of the effort.

IMO, you don't understand Kirk or the mission. And I'm not into it at all, but I've seen enough interviews with Kirk before he died to think that he was on a mission, and it wasn't to become rich. JMO, but I don't care enough to take it further.

That's fair if you don't want to take it further. However, for those who want to respond:

I do think it was a prospecting effort. Sure, maybe it doesn't go off if the SB halftime act was more conventional. However, that's what businesses do though. See an opportunity and pounce. TPUSA did exactly that. Get your foot in the door and if it meets or exceeds your expectations then try to grow it.

Their mission doesn't have to be about making money EXCLUSIVELY. However, it's still a part of the reason they do it. I do not believe the Kirk family would keep it going if they didn't get a high financial benefit from the work. Even if the compensation is low compared to your typical televangelist or politician, I would bet Charlier Kirk stops if his standard of living was little better than above the poverty line.

Kirk may very well have been on a mission. Maybe not. IDK - people can always lie about their intentions. Politicians are extremely good at that and many religious leaders are too. Regardless of how true blue Charlie Kirk may have been...he still got rich doing it. Again, not denigrating him in the least. All I know is there are limits to even the nicest people out there. I've never seen an altruist or an almost altruist ever in my lifetime (so far).

I agree with this fully. Well framed.

Ok, I'll be quick, then out. Kirk's mission was to spread Christianity, not primarily to make money. TPUSA would never look at something strictly as an opportunity to make money. They would look at it as an opportunity to spread the gospel.

Did he need the $6M house or the $1M beachfront condo to spread the word? If the mission was primarily to spread the word how did those assets contribute to that mission?

(02-11-2026 12:06 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:03 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:54 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I didn't watch the show, but I heard it was terrible.

Welcome back! Seriously, I Hope you're in good spirits.

I am no fan of hip hop, or Latin music, or Bad Bunny. But it was enjoyable to watch. It was a neat setup and the choreography was done well.

I just wish everyone would stop looking to a 15-minute show in the middle of a football game to be some national kumbaya moment, and just try and enjoy it.

That's an important point. I do not care for Bad Bunny (his music, his lyrics, etc.) but the production of the event was impressive.

The Superbowl is the most overhyped and overproduced event in this country.

The halftime show sure is overhyped. But millions watch it. So what do I know?

(02-11-2026 01:17 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:06 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:03 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:54 AM)andybible1995 Wrote:  I didn't watch the show, but I heard it was terrible.

Welcome back! Seriously, I Hope you're in good spirits.

I am no fan of hip hop, or Latin music, or Bad Bunny. But it was enjoyable to watch. It was a neat setup and the choreography was done well.

I just wish everyone would stop looking to a 15-minute show in the middle of a football game to be some national kumbaya moment, and just try and enjoy it.

That's an important point. I do not care for Bad Bunny (his music, his lyrics, etc.) but the production of the event was impressive.

The Superbowl is the most overhyped and overproduced event in this country.

The halftime show sure is overhyped. But millions watch it. So what do I know?

Just because the TV is on doesn't mean everyone is watching it.

(02-11-2026 01:18 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 01:17 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:06 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:03 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:00 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Welcome back! Seriously, I Hope you're in good spirits.

I am no fan of hip hop, or Latin music, or Bad Bunny. But it was enjoyable to watch. It was a neat setup and the choreography was done well.

I just wish everyone would stop looking to a 15-minute show in the middle of a football game to be some national kumbaya moment, and just try and enjoy it.

That's an important point. I do not care for Bad Bunny (his music, his lyrics, etc.) but the production of the event was impressive.

The Superbowl is the most overhyped and overproduced event in this country.

The halftime show sure is overhyped. But millions watch it. So what do I know?

Just because the TV is on doesn't mean everyone is watching it.

True.

(02-11-2026 01:05 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 12:02 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:59 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(02-11-2026 11:49 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I don't believe for a second that it was a prospecting venture. I bet if it had been a SB performer acceptable to their followers, they wouldn't have done it.

I also disagree that their mission is to make money. It's simply a byproduct of the effort.

IMO, you don't understand Kirk or the mission. And I'm not into it at all, but I've seen enough interviews with Kirk before he died to think that he was on a mission, and it wasn't to become rich. JMO, but I don't care enough to take it further.

That's fair if you don't want to take it further. However, for those who want to respond:

I do think it was a prospecting effort. Sure, maybe it doesn't go off if the SB halftime act was more conventional. However, that's what businesses do though. See an opportunity and pounce. TPUSA did exactly that. Get your foot in the door and if it meets or exceeds your expectations then try to grow it.

Their mission doesn't have to be about making money EXCLUSIVELY. However, it's still a part of the reason they do it. I do not believe the Kirk family would keep it going if they didn't get a high financial benefit from the work. Even if the compensation is low compared to your typical televangelist or politician, I would bet Charlier Kirk stops if his standard of living was little better than above the poverty line.

Kirk may very well have been on a mission. Maybe not. IDK - people can always lie about their intentions. Politicians are extremely good at that and many religious leaders are too. Regardless of how true blue Charlie Kirk may have been...he still got rich doing it. Again, not denigrating him in the least. All I know is there are limits to even the nicest people out there. I've never seen an altruist or an almost altruist ever in my lifetime (so far).

I agree with this fully. Well framed.

Ok, I'll be quick, then out. Kirk's mission was to spread Christianity, not primarily to make money. TPUSA would never look at something strictly as an opportunity to make money. They would look at it as an opportunity to spread the gospel.

Did he need the $6M house or the $1M beachfront condo to spread the word? If the mission was primarily to spread the word how did those assets contribute to that mission?

Are you aware that TPUSA is a non-profit org? I wasn't. They depend on donations for funding, and they pour the majority of it back into political causes.

That means they can't make money off half-time shows, either.

Kirk was paid $27K in 2016, with it rising to about $400k in 2021. I can't find data after that.

Kirk reportedly made the great majority of his money from his podcast, his radio show and public speaking engagements, not from TPUSA.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2024...d7e35153db

Also, when I said his mission was to spread the gospel, that was mostly personal with him and Erika, and the other execs. I figured we all knew TPUSA was a political org, and that's where most of their money goes, to support political causes.

I didn’t realize it was well known that Bad Bunny had been “Diddied” and was part of that fraternity. His fame makes a little more sense now because it’s certainly not talent. Have you guys seen those clips of his concert where his autotune went down, he didn’t know and kept “singing”. It’s bad.